ZFX - Zinifex Limited

[el_ninj0]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

I still say that you like just to be short but the trend is NOW going against you ..read the article in the Courier Mail..Tax brake for people who lost in Pasminco..ZINIFEX..is going from strength to strength it says and UBS given guide of the share price so you DONT know read it and get educated...ZFX..is rising...ZINC price IS RISING..so you are telling us they are short as I said before get of the grass...UBS..values the share at $3.10....and their target is $3.73...so where is your problem...the under $3..well that will take time but its UP the trend....and going against the trend does NOT work..how many millions did it take to short this stock..I am sure you are not in this leauge to short it...because $30 million is not chicken feed. and I doubt even you took a name from a very wealthy person..you are NOT in the hunt...

You got some links for those valuations by ubs and others chicken?

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

I still say that you like just to be short but the trend is NOW going against you ..read the article in the Courier Mail..Tax brake for people who lost in Pasminco..ZINIFEX..is going from strength to strength it says and UBS given guide of the share price so you DONT know read it and get educated...ZFX..is rising...ZINC price IS RISING..so you are telling us they are short as I said before get of the grass...UBS..values the share at $3.10....and their target is $3.73...so where is your problem...the under $3..well that will take time but its UP the trend....and going against the trend does NOT work..how many millions did it take to short this stock..I am sure you are not in this leauge to short it...because $30 million is not chicken feed. and I doubt even you took a name from a very wealthy person..you are NOT in the hunt...

Tax break for those who lost in Pasminco?

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

THAT IS CORECT...TAX breaks for 60000 shareholders who lost money in shares who had them in PASMINCO...THE COURIER MAil>>>ARTICLE RE THIS MATTER....GO on line and read it for yourself

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

EL NINJO...THE COURIER MAIL....read the article UBS advises $3.10 valuation...target price $3.73.....now a BUY from NEUTRAL...not what I say but the finincial ADVISERS...now go to the courier mails webside and see the article..also TAX BREAK for 60000 shareholders in PASMINCO....

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Warren..ZFX turns over $1.2 billion in sales of minerals..they lost $14 million which is production..now they make say 20 % profit now do you get the drift how it works..what you are saying is crap..not $14 millions of total profits but it first comes out of total sales..profit is calculated AT THE END...I know you have not a clue how it works..if you have an expense..which this was..the profit on the 14 million they did not earn or lost is not profit but turnover..man you know little..if I was in business with you I run a mile...thats why I said the impact would be $4..million....perhaps not even that...all the other smelters are working and there was NO time lost there...

 

[dutchie]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Chicken

Your enthusiasm for ZFX is very obvious.

However it should not get in they way of ridiculing people who may have a different point of view to your own.

Firstly in regard to the $14m - this was reported by the Company to the ASX (on the 31 March) as a $14m decrease in EBIT (which is what WarrenBuffet alluded to) - so without knowing the interest or tax component the real profit loss is unknown but I think your estimate of $4m. is incorrect too.
Irrespective of what the real figure is the idea of this forum is that if posts make statements in regard to profits, price estimations etc. they should be backed up by facts (or references) or if they are just opinions then that should be stated in the post.
It is great that you are trying to convince others that ZFX (and BPC) are great co.'s and that we can profit from them. However if you make posts try and back up your opinions and don't ridicule other posters who may disagree with you. We are all here to share information and learn from each other.
If we all practice constructive criticism then we will all benefit from different points of view.
If a poster ridicules everyone that disagrees with their opinion they will soon be posting to themselves!
I urge all forumites to continually focus on the subject at hand and NOT the poster!
Chicken please continue to make posts to this forum as I think you have something to contribute.
Irrespective of the future of ZFX (I am also bullish in the long term) continue your enthusiasm but think about what you post and how it is worded and please dont ridicule other posters, but argue/discuss/debate the subject.
I hope you make lots of profit (after tax and interest) with ZFX!

 

[RichKid]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Chicken

Your enthusiasm for ZFX is very obvious.

However it should not get in they way of ridiculing people who may have a different point of view to your own.

Firstly in regard to the $14m - this was reported by the Company to the ASX (on the 31 March) as a $14m decrease in EBIT (which is what WarrenBuffet alluded to) - so without knowing the interest or tax component the real profit loss is unknown but I think your estimate of $4m. is incorrect too.
Irrespective of what the real figure is the idea of this forum is that if posts make statements in regard to profits, price estimations etc. they should be backed up by facts (or references) or if they are just opinions then that should be stated in the post.
It is great that you are trying to convince others that ZFX (and BPC) are great co.'s and that we can profit from them. However if you make posts try and back up your opinions and don't ridicule other posters who may disagree with you. We are all here to share information and learn from each other.
If we all practice constructive criticism then we will all benefit from different points of view.
If a poster ridicules everyone that disagrees with their opinion they will soon be posting to themselves!
I urge all forumites to continually focus on the subject at hand and NOT the poster!
Chicken please continue to make posts to this forum as I think you have something to contribute.
Irrespective of the future of ZFX (I am also bullish in the long term) continue your enthusiasm but think about what you post and how it is worded and please dont ridicule other posters, but argue/discuss/debate the subject.
I hope you make lots of profit (after tax and interest) with ZFX!

Agree with you wholeheartedly Dutchie and WBII, and I don't think it's fair of Chicken to say that people who aren't as bullish on ZFX as he is are 'shorting' the stock (ie an implication of vested interests)- where's the proof? Might be good to see the ramping thread Chicken, you tend to post to yourself and repeat material ad nauseum. If you were new to stocks it would be a different story but you are an old hand as you mentioned in your early posts on this forum, you know exactly what you are doing- ramping. It's the innocent & inexperienced that'll get emotionally trapped by your posts. I'm only asking that you show some limit to your 'enthusiasm' and more respect for conflicting views. That's just my opinion, you are welcome to disagree: https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1145

 

[reichstag911]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Based on T.A. only and not funnymentals:

It is a short - and not long...


Cheers.

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Dutchie thank you for this post..I just got mad with people who say it was PROFIT..which it WAS NOT..UBS advisers stated the whole thing was over done..NOW I wonder who that rocket scintist was..but now I am happy to see that people understand that it was an EXPENSE..the cost to profit is a completly different situation..also I said the COURIER MAIL featured an article saying anyone who lost money in PASMINCO will get a TAX break..I was NOT invested in PASMINCO...too much debt...NOW UBS also featured in this article..valueing ZFX...$3.10...their price target is $3.73.....and now its a BUY...from NEUTRAL...now thats was posted in the courier MAIL...as far as BPC...burns philp....look, what they sell and who they are...forcast profit for the year 410Million $$$...should be debt FREE within 10 months..now I am NOT a rocket scintist...just a person who reads and watches...that PANELBEATER is now highly regarded..I know a lot of people here in Aussie and also in NEWZEALAND...And everyone...seem to like BPC..Australians largest food manufacturer...turnover $3.6 BILLION..wish I had bought at 3c..6 years ago..now brokers valueing the stock at $1.15.......I hold 100k of these..so you see I like it the otherone I posted was MAP...now on its way UP....so you see when I started posting ZFX was $2.36....and now over $3..

 

[The Barbarian Investor]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

I believe that ZFX has merit and 'will rise' over the ensuing weeks as i've said before. How fast is anyones guess..

The recent drop would've been a good time to buy in. sad to say, the recent drop saw me exit the stock via my stop loss.

it's still a stock i'd be still happy to have in my portfolio though

Chicken, your love for this stock knows no bounds and time will tell the outcome, the thread has generated healthy debate to say the least and i for one have enjoyed reading the views of others.

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Yes of course...we all have different opinions..but Accounts are ALL the same..that is one understands them ,I do..but anyway.thanks for your post and will keep posting if I think its worth while..what do you say about UBS..$3.10 valuation...$3.73 target and now a BUY from Neutral...so what is your comment

 

[The Barbarian Investor]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Regarding Zinifex

Zinifex offers leverage to both lead and zinc prices.

lead prices will be moving north i believe

Look at the PE of ZFX , i believe there is merit in the stock especialy over the long term.

 

[RichKid]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Regarding Zinifex

Zinifex offers leverage to both lead and zinc prices.

lead prices will be moving north i believe

Look at the PE of ZFX , i believe there is merit in the stock especialy over the long term.

Yes, those metals seem destined to go higher but short term there is some resistance. I prefer CBH as a Zinc and Lead play, much more leverage (hence riskier) but unlike ZFX it's not running at full capacity yet. It's my pick for the tipping comp.

I like ZFX too but it's looking a bit toppish atm I'd say the price of Zinc affects the sp a lot- just my opinion, see the charts. Maybe sideways for awhile like last year? Less likely but a steady stock barring further mishaps.

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

UBS..values ZFX..at $3.10.....targetprice $3.73...from NEUTRAL to BUY now

 

[malachii]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Chicken - there are only so many times you can write that before it starts to look like blatant ramping!!

Malachii

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

I am stating a fact ,if I was ramping...UBS wrote that and posted that and who do you believe RICH KIT who said it was toppy or UBS who are respected advisers...also Barclays have now 36million shares, take that away from...75 million shares and you have 39million shares so that is what is liquid in ZFX shareholding...ZFX is starting to buy on the 8th APRIL 70million$$$$ worth of shares, so they be buying say 20million shares ,so if the 21 shareholders hold on to their shares..you dont have to be a rocket scintist to see what is happening..get your facts OK..I am NOT ramping but pointing out what the facts are..BUY, if you like ,sell ,if you like OK...so the shares available for trading are getting slimer as from FRIDAY the 8th..so just to put the records straight,,,even the shorts have virtually disappeared..you get that information on the ASX board..If I was ramping I would tell you to buy...did I? NO I am just pointing out you got a company with hugh cashflow,Debt free and 92% of shares are held by 21 shareholders..and the 2nd largest ZINC mine with everything pre sold..think about that ..so I was told by someone $4 plus you can expect now tell me something different I like to hear it....I like zfx..because they got a good team..and most important they are making $$$$$$$$$$$$...and no or very little debt show me a company who is so undergeared....and they started exploring again..also could buy some of the smaller groups..I am sure they looking and after all they got the MONEY....to buy..the traders are getting into this stock..larger parcels are getting harder to buy just watch what happends

 

[RichKid]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Chicken - there are only so many times you can write that before it starts to look like blatant ramping!!

Malachii

That's not going to stop him Malachii. This Chicken is drunk on ZFX.

Chicken, if you're going to bump this thread all the time at least put something new, why don't you go off and find the full broker report you quote by UBS and post the relevant parts here with a link to the source if possible.
It might soak up a bit of your excess energy. Original material please rather than paraphrasing and repetition. Let's hope it's not old info either.

 

[chicken]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Read MY last post..re shareholders of the company..Richkid..the posters KNOW UBS why do they not got and read it themself its ALL there..re valuation..when you sell something below valuation WHO GAINS...buyer...I am NOT selling and so are BARCLAYS,and all the other BIG SHAREHOLDERS..it will see $4 you will see but of course for day traders and TA traders I am BAD MEDICINE because people getting information which you would rather see them not to have yes I like ZFX story and I hope that they will be VERY successful for us shareholders..one of the better mining companies...and yes the shares the public will have acess to will also be a small pool....so thats the true picture..nothing in being drunk with ZFX...its just great to be in a company..no debt,undergeared and making plenty of $$$$$..and 5 own smelters...AND EVERYTHING SOLD FORWARD....not many mining companies with that story..

check...www.kitcometals.com Lead is UP..and Zinc stock has fallen again by over 2000 tons for the day....

 

[Joe Blow]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

I am stating a fact ,if I was ramping

Chicken, it's not WHAT you are saying but how many times you are repeating the same information that is beginning to annoy some people.

Can you please only add new information to this thread, it is getting a bit clogged with the same information being posted again and again.

Also, instead of posting two or three times in a row, can you try to put everything you have to say in the one post.

Thanks.

 

[Warren Buffet II]

Re: ZINIFEX..ZFX

Chicken, it's not WHAT you are saying but how many times you are repeating the same information that is beginning to annoy some people.

Can you please only add new information to this thread, it is getting a bit clogged with the same information being posted again and again.

Also, instead of posting two or three times in a row, can you try to put everything you have to say in the one post.

Thanks.

Joe,

Annoy is just a bit, it is getting really boring to check this thread because as you said you find the same comment from Chicken over and over and over again. Sometimes I think he posts 3 or 4 times in a row to put good comments away and keep all his useless posts in front.

For those interested in the brokers valuation, here is a list of the latest valuations (if you want the specific comments just let me know):

Regards

WBII