Julia
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OK, let's revisit this additional prediction from you later.So basically situation is as follows-the decline started to slow down and market is sporting an overlapping waves which is a sign of a probable turn soon. It is like a car-before the turn it slows down. Of course, the driver can change his mind at the last second and decide not to turn, and we can do nothing about it. But the probabilities at this stage are more bullish than bearish.
If there's some good news about at present, I've not seen it. Instead, we have dodgy employment numbers from the ABS here, the European 'recovery' more shaky than ever, jitters about the prospect of increased interest rates in the USA, what is essentially war in the Middle East, Ebola which is threatening to become a global epidemic, continuing squabbling about political direction here in Australia, China slapping tariffs on coal, and so on. Hardly conditions for any sort of bullish market outlook, I'd have thought.
But perhaps I'm just a pessimist. Extremely glad to be minimally invested in just a small pure yield p/f right now.
...it's better used as a confirming factor....
OK, let's revisit this additional prediction from you later.
I think you made a prediction about NAB going higher some days ago. .
So it's great in hindsight. Awesome
Thank you for discussing your approach. I particularly agree with the portion above that I've bolded.And as I can see from this forum, people using these other strategies usually are averaging down accumulating losses with hopes they are owning a part of business which can't go broke according to them.
I do not rely on fundamentals because they are not the force that is driving stock prices up and down. The market mood is the main force, and when it turns negative, fundamentals are the last thing what it cares about. Only on a positive mood looks like fundamentals are working, but the truth is that even stocks with bad fundamentals rise in a wave of positive mood in the markets.
The opposite is true-when good stocks with good fundamentals go down on the negative dominant, people say that this is only technical drop and these stocks will recover, that's why they are seeking shelter in good stocks with good dividends during declines. But if ordinary correction turns into long term trend, it doesn't matter what fundamentals are, god or bad-people with pessimistic mood will drown the whole thing to the bottom.
Perhaps so. But I don't see why this should necessarily be so. Part of the point of my earlier post was my puzzlement about people who are so exclusively focused on a single approach. Just seems to me that to take into account, to at least some extent, important fundamental factors which influence the market mood you've described above, plus maximising entry and exit points with a simple look at a chart, makes sense.P.S. I actually do not know what people using fundamentals are doing in this thread. They should skip it. Technicians live in they own world and the clashes between two groups are always volatile.
important fundamental factors which influence the market mood you've described above,
global and local events and their likely outcomes which influence market mood.
Not at all the sort of events that I'd ever suggest made anything other than a temporary blip.Could you please tell at least one example when and how major global events influenced market mood and turned it around? Cause I don't know any. There were major earthquake taking 200K lives in Indonesia, volcano eruptions that grounded the whole Europe(and beyond) fleets resulting in billions of losses to companies, Huricanes like Catrina and Yassi to name the few, localy a Brisbane flood resulting in special taxes to cover expenses and so on from natures side...
I can't comment on the DOW. I'm only interested in what happens to my own investments here.In March 2008 Bear Sterns sold itself to JP Morgan at a price with more than 90% discount to the market but just 2 month later DOW was trading +10% higher, because only after the crash occurred analysts started to talk that this was the reason. Even after the collapse of Lehman Brothers in September 15, 2008, next week DOW was trading +5% higher, when now everybody are blaming it for the crash .[
And so many people still believe that news somehow influence markets. They say-ok, maybe the market needs some time to digest these news, but at the same time they are waiting till company announce the results and expect to see market reaction next day.
I know nothing about EW. I have noticed, however, that you, via EW apparently, have predicted the market here could fall to 1000, at the same time you were predicting a bullish future for BOQ. Doesn't seem to make much sense to me.From EW perspective, no any major financial, nature, or social events were disrupting the wave structure at any degree; or reversing short/medium/long term trends before any pattern in operation at that time was complete. It was, is and will be the fractal at all times.
I have noticed, however, that you, via EW apparently, have predicted the market here could fall to 1000, at the same time you were predicting a bullish future for BOQ. Doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
I think the confusion arises due to different timeframes.
As for that yellow box, I'm not saying you're wrong or right there but it's a VERY big call for a drop of that magnitude. I mean, if we end up right in the middle then that's roughly a 60% drop from the most recent peak - ouch!
So it's great in hindsight. Awesome
How can you expect a drop of anywhere between 40%-80% over the next 18 months and then expect any stock, much less a bank, to rise in that period?
I lost hope of trying to explain. I tried words, charts, there are still blind people out there seeing my prediction of BOQ rising next 2 years and not seeing the actual forecast on a chart where it could rise only 2 months inline with the market rise that should develop soon, and then crash next two years. Cheers.
...Where does everybody sees anticorelation, I do not understand.
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