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Temjin said:
Is there a case for big crash?
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I actually expected a bigger fall today that what we got. It's almost like the market goes limit down, as opposed to free fall. Perhaps markets are actually becoming more efficient these days?
 
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theasxgorilla said:
I actually expected a bigger fall today that what we got. It's almost like the market goes limit down, as opposed to free fall. Perhaps markets are actually becoming more efficient these days?
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Same.

Tomorrow is going to be a key day in my opinion. We have a lot of key stocks sitting on key support levels; a lot of stocks bumping the bottom of their long term trend lines and the major indexes at a key level.

nomore4s said:
But what if the type of market we're in is changing? While I don't think we will drop straight into a bear market, I think it's starting to look like we will be in a sideways market for a while - for at least the next few months, maybe even longer - 1 year+. It appears to me that alot of people have fallen into a "habit" of trading a bullmarket or have only ever traded a bullmarket and seem to think that the good times will continue for ever and are failing to plan for the next phase of the market.
So to me now is the time to start looking at different strategies for a different type of market (be prepared, and if the bull continues keep your current strategies).
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I think we already have a bear market in the financial sector, and rightly so!! What we will know tomorrow, and probably more clearly by the end of the week, is if the materials and energy sectors can de-couple themselves from the financials. As so far, I can see no reason why materials should have matched the falls of financials, and in a lot of cases have fallen further.

Personally, I expect a bounce. It could perhaps be the bottom of a short ABC correction, perhaps not. But am more than prepared for the converse outcome. Either way, it is going to be a very busy day tomorrow for me on the markets I think...
 
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Pommiegranite said:
One crumb of comfort is that the DOW is an 'evolving creature' in that it gets used to bad news and soon takes it in it's stride.

When 9/11 hit, it was a shock and the DOW got hit. Subsequent terrorist alerts/bad news in Iraq/possible conflict with Iran/N Korea then seemed to get ignored by the market i.e it became a way of life

I reckon by next week, the DOW will plough forward based on what it should i.e corporate earnings.

By next month, the words 'crunch,credit,US' will be shrugged off as a way off life, and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about.:2twocents

On that subject what were the last 2 corrections all about? I've forgotten:D
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I mentioned the above before and stand by it. Investors are more savvy and less risk averse, therefore the market bounces longer and stronger from each correction.

This doesn't mean that economic Armageddon won't come, but I believe it will come out of leftfield and when we least expect it...we need a few more bear to turn bullish before it will happen:D

'Speculate to Accumulate' is the norm these days and not just for the minority.

Feel free to throw eggs at me!
 
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powerkoala said:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- U.S. stocks were poised to open higher Monday as investors saw something positive in the Bear Stearns shakeup as far as the credit crunch is concerned.
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Well, let see how things are going tonight.
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Dow futures are up half a percent as we speak

Futures

North/Latin America

INDEX VALUE CHANGE OPEN HIGH LOW TIME
DJIA INDEX 13,339.00 73.00 13,216.00 13,349.00 13,216.00 07:08
S&P 500 1,453.40 10.40 1,439.50 1,454.40 1,434.00 07:17
NASDAQ 100 1,949.75 10.25 1,933.50 1,952.75 1,931.00 07:09
 
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sam76 said:
Dow futures are up half a percent as we speak

Futures

North/Latin America

INDEX VALUE CHANGE OPEN HIGH LOW TIME
DJIA INDEX 13,339.00 73.00 13,216.00 13,349.00 13,216.00 07:08
S&P 500 1,453.40 10.40 1,439.50 1,454.40 1,434.00 07:17
NASDAQ 100 1,949.75 10.25 1,933.50 1,952.75 1,931.00 07:09
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US Futures up on some cautious optimism returning to the financial sector.

'Meanwhile, UBS upgraded Merrill Lynch to buy from neutral, saying the fallout from the mortgage and credit businesses is mostly discounted in the broker's valuation. Merrill Lynch shares rose 1.8% in pre-open moves while TD Ameritrade , also upgraded by UBS, rose 3%.
In addition, Merrill Lynch reiterated a buy rating on Deutsche Bank , noting that the stock of the German bank now trades on a premium to Wall Street peers.' (Quoted from US website Market Watch article 'US Futures rise amid Merril Lynch upgrade').

Sounds a bit like some mutual back slapping but the Dow went down on Friday on the back of a downgrading of Bear Stearns and a mild weakening in the US employment figures so this could give the Dow a piggy back over night. Some good news for the financials at the very least.

PS: Bear Stearns still will report a profit for July despite the two hedge funds collapsing. Does this mean one of the chief protaganists have 'contained' the sub prime damage. Has been a real barometer for this correction so far.
 
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The initial catalyst for this was mortage defaults.. these are not going to stop overnight, and in fact may pickup in the next few months.. so there will still need to be caution for a while to come.

Looks like some internal pumping going on.. amazing what words from a few of the majors can do to the market.
 
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gfresh said:
The initial catalyst for this was mortage defaults.. these are not going to stop overnight, and in fact may pickup in the next few months.. so there will still need to be caution for a while to come.

Looks like some internal pumping going on.. amazing what words from a few of the majors can do to the market.
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Not may, will
 

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dhukka said:
Not may, will
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It's not what happens, it is whether the impact matches the markets expectations of what will happen. The key to the news on Merryl's is ' the fallout from the mortgage and credit businesses is mostly discounted in the broker's valuation'. So it is the impact that is not discounted in the valuation that will cause the next fall. Sub prime has been floating around for sometime now.

My reading of it anyway.

Wonder if the US markets have factored in rate neutral decision or a rate fall for Benanke's first big call. I suspect it is a rate neutral decision.
 
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tech/a said:
dhukka

Can you explain the graph?
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Fairly self-explanatory isn't it? The bottom axis represents months until certain classes of mortgages reset. The 'You Are Here' refers to May when the post was first written. So you need to move down between month 7 and 9 to see where we are now. From this graph November 07 will be the peak.

This data was put together in January whilst sub-prime and Alt-A mortgages were still being sold by the bucket-load. So expect the right-hand side of the graph to be a little understated.
 
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Anyone prepared to bet that it dosen't hold 6000 points on the 4:15 close as the bounce trade exit for the night?
 
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Bushman said:
It's not what happens, it is whether the impact matches the markets expectations of what will happen. The key to the news on Merryl's is ' the fallout from the mortgage and credit businesses is mostly discounted in the broker's valuation'. So it is the impact that is not discounted in the valuation that will cause the next fall. Sub prime has been floating around for sometime now.

My reading of it anyway.

Wonder if the US markets have factored in rate neutral decision or a rate fall for Benanke's first big call. I suspect it is a rate neutral decision.
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A couple of points:

I don't follow Merril Lynch. I have no idea if their current share price reflects it's intrinsic value. You've cited one analysts opinion who says the effect of the current credit crisis is already reflected in Merril's valuation.

Noone really knows how deep this credit squeeze will go or for how long it will last. We do know it has just begun and it will get worse. To be making the call at this point in the game that the problems in credit markets are reflected in Merrils price IMHO is premature.

Remember the first estimates of potential losses in a credit crunch are usually the kindest.
 
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Here is an interesting chart. It's the 10 day average of gainers minus losers for the ASX. Because of XAO/XJO are so dominated by 10 or so Big Caps the charts don't always show the true momentum in the market.
As you can see on balance there has been more stocks going down than up since Mid April. After the melt down we had in February things never really got going again. Yes we had a snap back rally in most stocks but they soon stop rising as we continued to make new highs in the indexes. As you can see in the chart the momentum peaked on April the 16th then each push higher was with less and less stocks rising. Not only that each swing lower was making a lower low on the momentum chart while the XAO/XJO was rising

The period from the start of May to the meltdown last week was a distribution rather than another consolidation, IMO. The Divergence between this and the XAO is quite amazing. Since this chart peaked on the 16th of April the XAO continued to add some 280 points while broad momentum turned very negative. This was hidden in the XAO because of a select couple of Big caps holding up (BHP, RIO, CBA etc). As we now know the smart money have been selling with volume this market for a while now. What S$#+'s me is I used to keep track of this chart when I was Swing trading but as I now only intraday trade I let this one go. :mad:
 

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nice chart TH - looks as tho we could be near a bottom?

here's a longer term chart to put things in perspective, that weekly 50ma has acted pretty well as support in the past, wonder if it will hold now


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juw177 said:
Amazing chart TH and a sound analysis. How did you generate that?
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Thanks juw177,

I have a Database of all the EOD prices for the ASX. I can scan a query for most things after I stuff around with it for a while :pc: . I run a adv/dec query for each day and feed the results into a spreadsheet for the chart. I only use stocks with 3 letter codes just to eliminate a lot of the rubbish. Bit of stuffing around really but I think it always pays to look a bit deeper than a couple of standard charts.
 
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Interesting information TH, You can also get A/D ratio(Breadth) info at www.bigcharts.com if you have use for this sort of info.

Whilst this is interesting information in that it gives you an idea that the market is slowing, that's all it does. Despite the momentum slowing this can be deceiving in that the market can hold up for quite a long time before moving in your desired direction of speculation. So how one goes about perfoming precision swing trades and timing using such indicators and other lagging indicators in isolation is beyond me. Whilst I think that this is interesting information it could also be better utilized when used with other methods. IMO the three most important factors in order are as follows:-

-Pattern
-TIME
-Price Level

Cheers
 

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