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Re: XAO Analysis

one thing I have learned on ASF, is to look for a CATALYST preceding direction.

The catalyst i see is the almost complete breakdown of the OTC derivative system.

As noted in other threads, it is monumental in size, I have not seen any indication from any poster, on how this may be even remotely resolved.

( I did pose the question)...any clues?..gurus please reply
As far as I am aware, US FED reserve is trying to set up a centralized counter where they can be traded. I think FED inclusion might make some matters smooth and trust worthy.
 
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Take ANZ for example. 52 wk low of $15.07. 20% below this = $12.06.
Or QBE. 52 wk low of $19.50. 20% below this = $15.60.

I don't think I've got the patience to wait til these lows til I buy in, IF they eventuate.

Well, look at the recent capitulation in January. Every thing went flat down, all sense and reasoning went out the window. It was the scariest day of all (YET!), if you ask me of this year on ASX.
 
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Well, look at the recent capitulation in January. Every thing went flat down, all sense and reasoning went out the window. It was the scariest day of all if you ask me of this year on ASX.

Hmmm. Not IMO. In January, the World Economic Experts still had BUCKET loads of magic tricks to throw at the giant [size=+2]Stay Puft Man[/size] careering towards them.

Now, after throwing practically EVERYTHING (including the kitchen sink) at that sticky sucker, ol' [size=+2]Stay Puft[/size] is lurching ever closer. The Fed could do worse than call [size=+1]Gho$tBu$ter$[/size]!!! :22_yikes:
 
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Remember when you could buy a house and rent it out and make a profit without any problem in the world.We just kept it for 5 yrs and made a motza.

Well it wont be long and loading up on quality stock will give you exactly the same result.
This sort of pullback only occurs once in 20+ years and only becuase the system HAS to change.

Once changed and if your set----you wont have to worry about retirement.

Skin the volatility or ride the value.
 
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I have recieved emails (asking me to subscribe*free email*)from Invest 4 profit and the chartist saying 4200 is the bottom. Am I missing some good news from somewhere?
 
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Interesting point we're at....semi-log back as far as my data goes:
 

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I have recieved emails (asking me to subscribe)from Invest 4 profit and the chartist saying 4200 is the bottom. Am I missing some good news from somewhere?

:D..... no offense to anyone , BUT some chartists have been calling the bottom from 6200 down :) gotta be right someday hey :) me personally will wait till a confirmed reversal and maybe miss a cupla bucks before i jump back in with both feet .
my post is not directed at some here as many here have called this correction from the start not afterwards like so many great chartists do

quite happy trading the volatility and panic in the meantime tho
 
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Yes I am happy enough trading the volatility atm. Is there some significance with 4200 for EW or something?

I think afew in here use EW to its full extent , better off asking them , tech/a, whiskers,ozwaveguy, cupla others spring to mind

cheers
 
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I think afew in here use EW to its full extent , better off asking them , tech/a, whiskers,ozwaveguy, cupla others spring to mind

cheers

Heavens above, nunthewiser... I get into enough trouble around here without you nominating me as an exponent of EW. :p:

It's natural justice to allow anyone an "L" plate, but I'm havin the damn'dst trouble getting my accreditation even raised to "P" plate status. :eek:

But anyway, I've been busy lookin around for signs... oil is past the point of no return, new lows and much more to come. That will obviously enable the world to recover quickly, as soon as the credit problems are resolved.

Not certain yet, but porper also noted thursday/friday as a significant period.

My intuition of all the markets is there is one hell-of-a-rebound about to unleash.

My intuition is that the trigger will come from England on thursday/friday.
 
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LOL i didnt say u guys were right i just said ya used it more trhoroughly :p:
he asked an EW sorta question , better u guys answering than me giving a bogans eye view on it :) i cant pronounce the lingo :).

gotta love that gold price eh

cheers
 
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:D..... no offense to anyone , BUT some chartists have been calling the bottom from 6200 down :) gotta be right someday hey :) me personally will wait till a confirmed reversal and maybe miss a cupla bucks before i jump back in with both feet .
my post is not directed at some here as many here have called this correction from the start not afterwards like so many great chartists do

quite happy trading the volatility and panic in the meantime tho
Whiskers is the only one I can think of really, TBH.
My intuition of all the markets is there is one hell-of-a-rebound about to unleash.

My intuition is that the trigger will come from England on thursday/friday.
Lol... and you've said the same thing for 1900 points! You've ridden it the whole way down!

Remember when you could buy a house and rent it out and make a profit without any problem in the world.We just kept it for 5 yrs and made a motza.

Well it wont be long and loading up on quality stock will give you exactly the same result.
This sort of pullback only occurs once in 20+ years and only becuase the system HAS to change.

Once changed and if your set----you wont have to worry about retirement.

Skin the volatility or ride the value.
Agree Tech, and I have been waiting nearly 12 months for this period in time.

The problem is though, which companies are you going to target? You can't really tell which ones are going to go bust.

The categories listed in importance I have are:
Low debt.
Dividend paying.
Liquid options.
Defensive and low risk sectors.

Beyond that I am really struggling to be able to look at what is going to be a good buy over time.

I like some of the industrials and commodities, but they are going to be bottoming over a longer time frame IMO...
 
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Just re-read posts for 18/01/2008 through 24/01/2008.
Educational...

What strikes me though is the fact that when the rally started many couldn't believe it would last for more than a day and many placed shorts on everything that moved up.
I wonder, with shorts banned these days, what the rally will look like...
 
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Whiskers is the only one I can think of really, TBH.


That may be the case BUT in all fairness he has made a few good calls of late and not scared to put his neck out with them


as far as the other question re what to look at , i hold MTS and maybe suggest a little research for a looksie further down the track . not a ramp , just a suggestion of one to pick some bones on later

cheers
 
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LOL i didnt say u guys were right i just said ya used it more trhoroughly :p:
he asked an EW sorta question , better u guys answering than me giving a bogans eye view on it :) i cant pronounce the lingo :).

gotta love that gold price eh

cheers

LOL

Yeah I reckon I'm right. :D

I been picking some nice swing trades but the volatility is making it hard to judge the distance in some cases, especially in the indicies.

Still like the Expanded Flat scenerio... looks valid on the Dow also.

That being the case the rebound up leg C should be pretty well straight up as opposed to maybe 45/60 degrees for an a of and abc correction.

As for gold... if I'm correct it won't go much higher before it starts a five wave C back towards 800ish.

It all gels in for me... just waiting for the trigger from England in a day or two... maybe a massive rate cut there too... to set it off. :cool:
 
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as far as the other question re what to look at , i hold MTS and maybe suggest a little research for a looksie further down the track . not a ramp , just a suggestion of one to pick some bones on later

cheers
Mmmm.... a bit of synchronicity... check out my post in the MTS thread yesterday... lololololololololol.
 
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It all gels in for me... just waiting for the trigger from England in a day or two... maybe a massive rate cut there too... to set it off. :cool:
Yep, because now the British own the banks, cutting rates is gonna make a massive difference.

And god knows how you expect that to be bearish for gold. Anyway...
 
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LOL

That being the case the rebound up leg C should be pretty well straight up as opposed to maybe 45/60 degrees for an a of and abc correction.

As for gold... if I'm correct it won't go much higher before it starts a five wave C back towards 800ish.

It all gels in for me... just waiting for the trigger from England in a day or two... maybe a massive rate cut there too... to set it off. :cool:


gave my guess on gold previously on other thread

as far as a bounce goes re xao i entered a number of small positions today , arvo /auction in anticipation of it .... a bit risky but i have my own reasons for suspecting a bounce imminent ... prolly wrong , and calculated a loss into my trade entrys , what will be will be :D
 
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Mmmm.... a bit of synchronicity... check out my post in the MTS thread yesterday... lololololololololol.

LOL i havent actually looked at the MTS thread here as yet .....oh dear , i wont point that one to ya then :p:

i hold and have been accumulating as an investment from around 2.30 upwards , average cost now at 3.90 not including return on investment through the fairly peese weak divvy :) but hey it still pays me one and is fully franked , also i trade it and often keep stock as profit instead of cash on it ...

will hunt down the thread and have a read
cheers
 
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Lol... and you've said the same thing for 1900 points! You've ridden it the whole way down!

Of course Chops! One has to trade it.

Oh, you were away when someone else started this arguement and I was amazed at my own prowess when forced to post my record.. :p: :p: :p:


Agree Tech, and I have been waiting nearly 12 months for this period in time.

The problem is though, which companies are you going to target?

Well Chops, if you were confident with your FA, trust your TA and temper it with EW. ;)

I differ on the wave count to other EW'ers, but I think we still generally agree on many of the turn points.

Yep, because now the British own the banks, cutting rates is gonna make a massive difference.

PS: Chops, even if the gov owns the banks a massive rate cut flows through to and equates to more affordability for consumers.

Just notice the real estate auction reports in aus today for example. An instant increase in demand for housing.

And god knows how you expect that to be bearish for gold. Anyway...

Short term a bit bearish because oil is falling faster too, remember... hence inflation/risk concerns recede.
 
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