WW3

[wayneL]

Here is another instance where the government is arguing on purely technical grounds. Clearly, the spirit of the constitution has been broken.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6889654/

 

[visual]

Ok,but wouldnt you say that in this instance,the media is acting as a resistance force? By informing the people,who can then decide if the people who represent them are reelected or not.

 

[wayneL]

Ok,but wouldnt you say that in this instance ,the media is acting as a resistance force?by informing the people ,who can then decide if the people who represent them are reelected or not.

Exactly. But the people should be pro-active. Often allegience is construed as alliegence to a government.

Stuff the government, They should have alliegence to the people. It's all @rse about at the moment. This has been due to propaganda... we should all learn to be more discerning and "keep the bastards honest" as Don Chip used to say.

 

[visual]

Here is another instance where the government is arguing on purely technical grounds. Clearly, the spirit of the constitution has been broken.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6889654/

But here you then have various interpretations of the same right!And all are free to exercise their right under the law.
So once again people are being kept informed and free to decide who they will side with.

 

[visual]

Exactly. But the people should be pro-active. Often allegience is construed as alliegence to a government.

Stuff the government, They should have alliegence to the people. It's all @rse about at the moment. This has been due to propaganda... we should all learn to be more discerning and "keep the bastards honest" as Don Chip used to say.

You see thought this is the beauty of freedom,you say propoganda,but with a free media both sides of the story can be brought out,and after all the government represents the people so in effect the government is showing allegiance to the wishes of the majority.


As for the Australian democrats,please,that cow,said she would never agree to the GST.Didnt take long to fold into Johnnys charm did it.

 

[wayneL]

But here you then have various interpretations of the same right!And all are free to exercise their right under the law.
So once again people are being kept informed and free to decide who they will side with.

Interesting view! But you are entitled to it. :

Cheers

 

[Rafa]

Rafa,

Perhaps you add something of substance then; to bring the thread back on topic?

Cheers

I have added plenty on this thread if you care to read it...
I've tried to say that this is more than just a clash of cultures, races, religions, muslim vs jews, but a clash of tribes and sects fighting century old battles...

But no one seems to interested in responding to that...
Rather, seem to be focussed on one comment made by Visual that some of you have deemed racist...

Far out... this is Political Correctness gone to far...

And this is what happens when it does.... WWIII.... because no one is interested in tackling the real cause of WWIII, rather are more interested in points scoring and calling people racists...!!!

Most of us are racisits... I saw a documentary the other day on one of countries neighbouring Zimbabwe... (can't remember the name)... They were calling the Zimbabwean refugees (blacks) all sorts of names, etc, and complaining they were coming in to take their jobs, and should go back home!!!

To me they all looked the same... (whoops, is that racist) yet these people knew who was Zimbabwean and who wasn't and were clearly against the Zimbabwean race...

We should be more focussed on the root cause of the problem rather than focus on these minor issues like racism which is part and parcel of humanity!

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Far out... this is Political Correctness gone to far...

Yes. Most Australians are infected I`m afraid. It what is taught to them at Uni etc.

Most of us are racisits... I saw a documentary the other day on one of countries neighbouring Zimbabwe... (can't remember the name)... They were calling the Zimbabwean refugees (blacks) all sorts of names, etc, and complaining they were coming in to take their jobs, and should go back home!!!

Which is why multiculturism doesnt work. Monoculturism works if the various races unite as one showing the same values etc. But, Africa and Australia are very different beyond comparison.

For some info on Israel:
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html

(Watch the animations at the bottom)

Snake

 

[visual]

Yes. Most Australians are infected I`m afraid. It what is taught to them at Uni etc.



Which is why multiculturism doesnt work. Monoculturism works if the various races unite as one showing the same values etc. But, Africa and Australia are very different beyond comparison.

For some info on Israel:
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html

(Watch the animations at the bottom)

Snake

Haha our settings wont allow me to access that sight,intolerance.See everyone even my computer knows I`m not racist. :

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Haha our settings wont allow me to access that sight,intolerance.See everyone even my computer knows I`m not racist. :

Your PC must be PC

 

[kgee]

Of course multiculturism works...ok there might be the odd hiccup but there's been people of different ethnic groups living side by side with generally positive outcomes for years.
I do agree that were racist it's hard not to be....I use to live in the states and my girlfriend (Jewish by the way)lived on the border of Oakland which has an 80% black population...everytime i caught the train to her place I always wore my runners cause i figured if any group of black men approached me I'd just run....but statistically I probably had just as much chance of getting mugged in the non black neighbourhoods

 

[wayneL]

I am hearing rumours that Israel is dropping gas bombs.

These are unsubstantiated and could be misinformation or propaganda.

Anyone hearing anything on this?

 

[the_godfather4]

I am hearing rumours that Israel is dropping gas bombs.

These are unsubstantiated and could be misinformation or propaganda.

Anyone hearing anything on this?

Heard several similar rumours....but I figured I would wait until I could confirm for sure before posting.....watch this space........(would not surprise me though)

 

[visual]

Gas boms ,ok!!!!! where did you guys hear that?sorry,but I would think that highly unlikely.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I am hearing rumours that Israel is dropping gas bombs.

These are unsubstantiated and could be misinformation or propaganda.

Anyone hearing anything on this?

If you are hearing rumours, what is your source?
They may be fact.

 

[the_godfather4]

At the moment there are reports on LBC and the ART networks (both Arab based).....they will tend to be more biased towards the Arab side just as CNN, BBC, NBC etc etc etc are Western/Jewish biased......

I like to comment on FACT and research so I am not willing to condemn until there is concrete evidence......

But like I said, It would certainly not surprise me.....just as the US used chemical warfare in the first Gulf War (which they still deny ) , why would Israel hold back........ they certainly have confirmed stockpiles of the stuff.......

 

[wayneL]

If you are hearing rumours, what is your source?
They may be fact.

I was speaking to some friends in the UK who say they have seen reports.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I was speaking to some friends in the UK who say they have seen reports.

Thanks WL

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Some reading:

http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/israelstorm.html <<==Warning - Very Graphic!

The content is a bit scarry.

 

[wayneL]

Some Middle East Links to follow the war.

Pro Israel - www.debka.com

Pro Arab - www.aljazeera.com

Cheers