WW3

[Mostafa]

I think WW3 won’t happen but, what the_godfather4 said is considerable:

Im sorry but if my neighbour decided to move into my house and claim it as his own, then force me to live in the laundry while he killed my kids for not getting out of their rooms and raped my wife and mother at will while telling the local papers that he had a right to protect himself from me because i was getting a little annoyed and wanted to kill him and his family then maybe IM in the wrong.......

Lets not be so brainwashed by the media, lets research history and get to the 'ACTUAL' root of the problem.....this newspaper clip is just one more scaremongering crowd pleasing narrative by an ignorant journalist....... BTW im not islamic and i do not support this so called 'terrorism' but I have researched this stuff in detail and I cant believe the masses are letting these lies go on and on......we need to open our eyes

 

[wayneL]

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/weiss/2006/0717.html

THREE WAR FORECASTS
by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D.
Editor, Safe Money Report & MoneyandMarkets.com
July 17, 2006
Anthony and I are in Brazil to attend my nephew’s wedding. We fly back tonight.

When I planned this trip, I welcomed it as a chance to get away for a relaxing weekend ”” to escape the daily bombardment of news about Iran, Iraq, Gaza and Lebanon.

 

[wayneL]

They teach 'em to hate young over there. From Israel with love :

Sickening on a whole bunch of different levels

 

[Ageo]

Nothing to live for i reckon.

 

[visual]

They teach 'em to hate young over there. From Israel with love :

Sickening on a whole bunch of different levels

Another way of looking at this could be psychological.

Did you see the little boy who was being looked at in hospital yet was clutching a toy machine gun. He was palestinian.
The difference between the two in my opinion is that one will be brought up in a twisted religious enviroment where the other one will not be.

 

[Rafa]

The difference between the two in my opinion is that one will be brought up in a twisted religious enviroment where the other one will not be.

Twisted religions environment or simply twisted environment...

Religion is all they have in these parts of the world... and they look to religion to find solace in their predicament.... there is no hope, no life, no future... their land has been taken from them, their children, brothers, sistes, have been murdered.....


Rightly or wrongly, it doesn't matter... They can either be gutless, cowardly and surrender without a whimper, or draw on their last remaining vestiges of pride and fight back!

What would you do???

 

[visual]

Twisted religions environment or simply twisted environment...

Religion is all they have in these parts of the world... and they look to religion to find solace in their predicament.... there is no hope, no life, no future... their land has been taken from them, their children, brothers, sistes, have been murdered.....


Rightly or wrongly, it doesn't matter... They can either be gutless, cowardly and surrender without a whimper, or draw on their last remaining vestiges of pride and fight back!

What would you do???

As for having only religion on this part of the world,look at Israel,they seem to have everything.Why dont the muslims?

And as for what I would do, I certainly would not bring up my children to blow themselves up,wherever Muslims are theres problems, all over the world!
why cant they ever behave like people who want peace? They seem hellbent on creating problems and when things blow up in their faces they claim that they are being discriminated on the basis of their religion. The Jews deserve to be safe, if it takes force to get that, so be it.

 

[the_godfather4]

As for having only religion on this part of the world,look at Israel,they seem to have everything.Why dont the muslims?

And as for what I would do, I certainly would not bring up my children to blow themselves up,wherever Muslims are theres problems, all over the world!
why cant they ever behave like people who want peace? They seem hellbent on creating problems and when things blow up in their faces they claim that they are being discriminated on the basis of their religion. The Jews deserve to be safe, if it takes force to get that, so be it.

Im sorry but i'm not sure where you are getting your facts from.....the only reason Israel has everything is because they have taken it by force with unconditional support from the USA......these people are only trying to get back what has always rightfully been theirs...THEIR COUNTRY!!! To state that where ever there are muslims there are problems is a very ignorant thing to say but it is unfortunately all we see on TV so we have been conditioned to believe it.......
Let me paint a scenario that is a little closer to home...... If Indonesia decided they wanted to "Settle" in Oz and claim it as their own, would'nt we have a right to defend the invasion???? would'nt we all be out on the streets claiming our rights to our OWN land????? and if their soldiers forcefully kicked us out of our homes and shot our children and elderly at will would we not want revenge????? the fact that this is what Israel did 50 years ago (with the USA's and UK's blessing)and everyone seems to have forgotten makes me sick.......when u have nothing left and even your dignity has been taken from you, what else do u have to live for?????? Even though im not a muslim, I ask that we do not post racial taunts unless we have done our UNBIASED research to support our opinions

 

[Rafa]

As for having only religion on this part of the world,look at Israel,they seem to have everything.Why dont the muslims?

Well, here's your answer...
(i'll repeat what i posted previously...

"A study of students at Bethlehem University reported by the Coordinating Committee of International NGOs in Jerusalem showed that many families frequently go five days a week without running water...The study goes further to report that, 'water quotas restrict usage by Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza, while Israeli settlers have almost unlimited amounts.'

"A summer trip to a Jewish settlement on the edge of the Judean desert less than five miles from Bethlehem confirmed this water inequity for us. While Bethlehemites were buying water from tank trucks at highly inflated rates, the lawns were green in the settlement. Sprinklers were going at mid day in the hot August sunshine. Sounds of children swimming in the outdoor pool added to the unreality." Betty Jane Bailey, in "The Link", December 1996.

Visual, i don't think the situation is as clear cut as you seem to understand it...

This is not something that happened many hundreds of years ago, and we can say to the palestinians...'just get over it!'

This happened in recent history, there are people alive today directly effected by it... any human with a smidgen of pride and self esteem would fight back...

 

[visual]

First I`m not racist,but you are entitled to your own beliefs.
Second Muslims do cause problems all over the world,they represent the highest unemployed group,in what ever country you care to look at.

Lets also not forget the little matter of six million Jews incinerated because they were Jews.
Also they bought land and established their own homeland.The problems seem to stem from the fact that they wanted to establish somewhere safe on land they owned, everything that followed is indisputable, but ask why, instead of spreading your own racist views.

Also wherever Jews go, they work hard and flourish, cant say the same for muslims. Lebanese Christians dont seem to have problems fitting in Lebanese muslims seem to want to behave like cavemen.

 

[Rafa]

Can I also say something else...


This is more than simply Jews vs Paletinians...

This is the US against Iran/Syria...

Hezbulla/Hamas is the Iran/Syrias outpost, just like Israel is a US outpost in the region...


As i said earlier.... whilst we can all sympathise with the innocent people being affected... and blame this religion and that... this is actually a proper strategic military offensive.... at this stage, its probing and proding... but could very easily escalate into a decisive WWIII... (remember, WWI and WWII started with a series of little sparks)

Religion, the Palestinians, the Lebanese, and the Israelites are all victims (or collateral damage) in the ultimate war between Iran and the US!

I have a bad feeling about this one...

Check this out from the Australian

What made Hezbollah more than a nuisance was the fact that it was a forward outpost for Iran, which armed and trained its fighters and used them as a strategic threat against Israel.

The huge missile arsenal Tehran sent to Hezbollah - 13,000 missiles, according to Israel - was intended primarily as a deterrent against Israel should it contemplate an airstrike against its nuclear facilities.

To respond heavily to a Hezbollah provocation could bring down a rain of missiles on Israel's cities. Surprisingly, it was an Israeli leader without a significant military background, Ehud Olmert, who decided to take on Hezbollah and pay the price.

More than 1000 missiles have struck Israel in the past week but the Israeli public overwhelmingly calls on the Government to continue pressing Hezbollah.

Hezbollah and Iran now find themselves with a deterrent that no longer deters. They also find much of Hezbollah's infrastructure shattered and many of its leaders, including clerical leaders, killed in the air attacks.

Furthermore, neither the Arab world nor the international community is prepared to stop the pummelling. Israel has not moved ground forces into Lebanon and would prefer not to since casualties are likely to be high.

But if the continuing air, artillery and naval attacks are not sufficient, it clearly will go in.

Israel's victory over Hezbollah, if such it proves, is also a victory against militant Islam that maybe followed up in the confrontation with Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

There is still a possibility that long-range missiles will hit Tel Aviv before a ceasefire is achieved, but Israel has made clear it is willing to pay the price.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

If everyone dug a bit deeper into the histroy you would find how the arabs are not very trustful even amongst themselves. Just reserach who wanted to take palestine for themselves. Shock is what you will get because it isn`t the fairy tale you think it should be.

Visual you have it spot on.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

They teach 'em to hate young over there. From Israel with love :

Sickening on a whole bunch of different levels

Where are the photos of little arabs with guns? Pretty biased.

 

[3 veiws of a secret]

Middle East is a policy of "DIVIDE & RULE" .
In opening a pandoras box to say, give the Palestian's the same arms as the Isreali's have. What would the propaganda machine come up with next.
As for the 6 million Jews that died lets not forget Don Cortez, & Stalin.....so lets not get too carried away with emotions that the Jewish state keeps saying KEN KEN KEN!

 

[Rafa]

If everyone dug a bit deeper into the histroy you would find how the arabs are not very trustful even amongst themselves. Just reserach who wanted to take palestine for themselves. Shock is what you will get because it isn`t the fairy tale you think it should be.

Spot on... with one caveat... It has nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with regional Power!

And the various tribes have been waging this war since time began... (and long before Islam the religion existed!!!)


Nowadays of course, we have OIL!


For America to survive as a player in the region, it is vital that Israel survives...

For the Saudi's and Jordan, its better to have America, than to have Iran ceasing the balance of power in the region... even more so now that Iraq is virtually Shiite thanks to the 'coalition of the idiots!'

US Policy always supported a unified IRAQ with Saddam Hussein, till the Bush Jnr and his idealist neo con brigade rocked up! Now that Iraq is gone, the last remaining US stronghold is Israel, and is the only thing countering Iranian domination of the region...



Divide and Conquer creates untold suffering and misery, but it probably is the only way to prevent a super power state from developing in the Arabian peninsular... Imagine, an Arabian superpower, with control most of the worlds oil....!


There is a solution off course... stop using Oil... !

 

[wayneL]

Where are the photos of little arabs with guns? Pretty biased.

In fairness SP, for Israel to be able to wear the white hat gifted to them by the western media, they should lift their game.

Israel is a terrorist state just as durely as hezbollah and all the other arab terrorist organisations are. They just have better propaganda.

cheers

 

[visual]

In fairness SP, for Israel to be able to wear the white hat gifted to them by the western media, they should lift their game.

Israel is a terrorist state just as durely as hezbollah and all the other arab terrorist organisations are. They just have better propaganda.

cheers

Wayne in fairness of balance you could`ve also shown the photo of the little boy clutching the machine gun,a toy,but nevertheless a gun.Whilst he was being carried on a stretcher presumably to hospital.That Israel is a terorrist state is your opinion,however in a balanced argument both photos would`ve said a lot more than what words can say.Of course they have better propoganda,they are also better organised,have a better army,have better equipment,should I go on...Hezbollah probably just has a fat bank balance.Like whats his name,whos now dead.

 

[visual]

they represent the highest unemployed group,in what ever country you care to look at.

Of course when I made that statement about muslims I meant countries where thay have migrated to,like western countries,such as Australia,France,Canada ect...

Just for clarity

 

[wayneL]

Now hang on just a doggone minute here.

The photograph is to demostrate the atrocity which is war, not to support a particular side.

So before people go running around demonstrating there own biases, I suggest a study of history as others have suggested.

Let my disgust be targeted at any society that involves its children in this manner... the other side too!

Our press however, under threat of being labeled antisemitic, only promotes the Israeli point of view, so don't get sucked in by the propaganda *again*! While our press brown-noses to Isreal, they (zionists) refer to us as goyim... look up the word.

There are no white hats! Remember that! These people will lead us into WW3.

 

[wayneL]

Wayne in fairness of balance you could`ve also shown the photo of the little boy clutching the machine gun,a toy,but nevertheless a gun.Whilst he was being carried on a stretcher presumably to hospital.That Israel is a terorrist state is your opinion,however in a balanced argument both photos would`ve said a lot more than what words can say.Of course they have better propoganda,they are also better organised,have a better army,have better equipment,should I go on...Hezbollah probably just has a fat bank balance.Like whats his name,whos now dead.

BTW, where were the calls for balance when that photo was published? huh huh?