Why are we saying 'sorry' to the aboriginals?!

[agro]

doesn't anyone realize the amount of legal claims going to be filed..

this is going to be all tax funded too..

there are other priorities they should take precedence:

hospitals, education, training etc

this will never end

 

[roland]

I think that some of the "Stolen Generation" would probably be wanting to say thank you. I look at the way some of the aboriginal communities are treating their children and wonder how many ended up with a better life.

There were a lot of half casts that were taken away as well, I understand that half casts were generally treated very badly or even killed....

 

[nowork]

I think just do it. Get it over with and finish it.

Will be interesting to see how much it costs.......

 

[Nyden]

Too true Roland,

This generation have nothing to be sorry about, personally? I'd even be OK if we started "stealing" some more, as Roland said; they'd probably have better lives. At least they wouldn't be abused as children, & end up as dole bludging petrol sniffers.

Sorry, unfair generalization I know. This whole topic gets me a little emotive!

 

[roland]

Too true Roland,

This generation have nothing to be sorry about, personally? I'd even be OK if we started "stealing" some more, as Roland said; they'd probably have better lives. At least they wouldn't be abused as children, & end up as dole bludging petrol sniffers.

Sorry, unfair generalization I know. This whole topic gets me a little emotive!

Hey Nyden, I suppose with the oil crisis nearing, then the petrol sniffing would become a thing of the past.

 

[Nyden]

Hey Nyden, I suppose with the oil crisis nearing, then the petrol sniffing would become a thing of the past.

Yes, they're better off in sniffing Coke with the current price of gasoline ....

 

[trinity]

Being a migrant, I do not totally understand this "stolen" generation issue. Could someone provide an unbiased summary of this?


Thanks.

 

[Nyden]

Being a migrant, I do not totally understand this "stolen" generation issue. Could someone provide an unbiased summary of this?


Thanks.

Good ol' wikipedia

The Stolen Generation (or Stolen Generations) is a term used to describe the Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children, usually of mixed descent who were removed from their families by Australian government agencies and church missions, under various state acts of parliament, denying the rights of parents and making all Aboriginal children wards of the state, between approximately 1869 and (officially) 1969. The policy typically involved the removal of children into internment camps, orphanages and other institutions.[1] The Stolen Generation has received significant public attention in Australia following the publication in 1997 of Bringing Them Home - Report of the National Inquiry into the Separation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children from Their Families.[2] Questions regarding whether the Stolen Generation actually occurred or to what scale it occurred, remain controversial topics within Australian political discourse.[3][4]

 

[trinity]

Thanks Nyden.

wow ... one whole century

1869 and (officially) 1969...

IMHO, what's past is past... leave it there. Things had to be done I suppose. Say sorry then. But, if we start giving compensation to 1, then, no amount of tax money would be enough ...

 

[roland]

Were they stolen or rescued? Were they not removed from squallor, fed, clothed, educated, housed, given access to modern medicine.

I guess you hear stories regarding some of the abuse at orphanages etc.

I suppose as a parent, you wouldn't want your children taken away for any reason. Isn't the government doing the same thing now with the Rescue in the Northern Territory - funny how the aboriginal leaders are in favour this time...

 

[Nyden]

Thanks Nyden.

wow ... one whole century




IMHO, what's past is past... leave it there. Things had to be done I suppose. Say sorry then. But, if we start giving compensation to 1, then, no amount of tax money would be enough ...

But, that's the thing - it would be our generation financially paying for the mistakes of another. I refuse to do that.

 

[Nyden]

Were they stolen or rescued? Were they not removed from squallor, fed, clothed, educated, housed, given access to modern medicine.

I guess you hear stories regarding some of the abuse at orphanages etc.

I suppose as a parent, you wouldn't want your children taken away for any reason. Isn't the government doing the same thing now with the Rescue in the Northern Territory - funny how the aboriginal leaders are in favour this time...

The government doesn't just do this with Aborigines though. Any unfit parent has their children taken away, & when you look at the health statistics out there... & the % incidence of drug abuse, I think it's a fair call IMO.

I know it's wrong of me to expect this, but I just wish they would intergrate into society. The Native Americans have done this somewhat, as far as I know they don't still live in huts & tribes over there? They live in Casinos

 

[Stan 101]

I refuse to do that.

I doubt very much that you have a say in it.

cheers,

 

[trinity]

I know it's wrong of me to expect this, but I just wish they would intergrate into society. The Native Americans have done this somewhat, as far as I know they don't still live in huts & tribes over there? They live in Casinos

I am kinda with you on this. I pay heaps in taxes, which I expect/want to go into better schools and hospitals, public transport etc. Things which would benefit ALL Australians basically ...

 

[Sir Burr]

Why are we saying 'sorry' to the aboriginals?!

"We" are not saying sorry, the Government is.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national.../2008/01/29/1201369084589.html?s_cid=rss_news

He also said individual Australians have the right to oppose the move, saying the apology was not coming from the non-indigenous citizens.

"We'll be making it clear that we'll be speaking in the government's name," he said.

 

[Nyden]

I doubt very much that you have a say in it.

cheers,

Heh. Bloody Rudd is already losing me money.

 

[trinity]

"We" are not saying sorry, the Government is.

But who is taking the tab for this "sorry"? The Government?

 

[roland]

I wonder if the aboriginal community wants the "sorry" or the compensation. If we were to seperate the 2 and say you can either have a "sorry" or the $$$'s - which one would they choose?

 

[Nyden]

I wonder if the aboriginal community wants the "sorry" or the compensation. If we were to seperate the 2 and say you can either have a "sorry" or the $$$'s - which one would they choose?

Obviously the cash, as mentioned ... petrol prices are sky high

 

[moXJO]

Yes more legal claims I don't think this will narrow the gap for respect towards aboriginals.Whats worse is the money probably wont get near the ones that need it.All this will be doing is bringing up even more of a divide.

Will have to see how Rudd is going to dodge these legal claims