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Useless Labor Party.Maybe they can spell though
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I agree, but it is equally pointless to think the coalition, or anyone else, will have a silver bullet to fix up the debt problem.
Why I talk about Labor and the debt, is due to them completely divorcing any responsibility for it.
Shorten fronts up, and speaks about the upcoming budget cuts as though they are just some Government initiative.
To me it shows a complete lack of decency, on his part, thinking I'm dumb enough to swallow his crap.
He needs to grow a pair and start and redefine Labor and its direction, not stand there like an idiot and say "whats the problem, why is Joe going to tax more".
How dumb does he think the electorate is? Well he was a union official, so that could cloud his judgement.
It really is beyond the pale. To me he isn't helping Labor, he is making Abbott look better.
Bill won't last long IMO
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At least Labor did have a debt ceiling, which of course they ignored, but alarm bells went off when it was exceeded.
Is it responsible for the LNP to effectively have no limit on how much they can borrow ? They gave the impression that they would be cutting debt straight away, but abolishing the ceiling seems an admission of defeat.
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No it wasn't useless because they had to at least wear the embarrassment of having to raise the limit.
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To Labor, it's not an embarrassment.
The problem is we all have to live with the consequences.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...study-of-failure/story-e6frg6n6-1226870368714
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I'm beginning to understand where you are coming from.
The incoming Government, still has to honour the outgoing Governments obligations, otherwise the economy stalls.
The Government had a self imposed debt ceiling, that they were going to go through, the incoming Government inherits the credit card.
How in hells name, can anyone turn around, an out of control debt binge in six months?
Obviously the enormity of the issue is beyond you, I'm not being antagonistic, just can't understand where you think the money would come from.
It took Labor six years to go from $0 debt to $300billion, it will take 10 years to get it down to $0.:1zhelp:
That is unless Labor get in and blow it out again.
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I'm beginning to understand where you are coming from.
The incoming Government, still has to honour the outgoing Governments obligations, otherwise the economy stalls.
The Government had a self imposed debt ceiling, that they were going to go through, the incoming Government inherits the credit card.
How in hells name, can anyone turn around, an out of control debt binge in six months?
Obviously the enormity of the issue is beyond you, I'm not being antagonistic, just can't understand where you think the money would come from.
It took Labor six years to go from $0 debt to $300billion, it will take 10 years to get it down to $0.:1zhelp:
That is unless Labor get in and blow it out again.
Turn it around in six months ? Where did I ever say that ? What you are doing is verballing me, and creating straw men, and you are also providing an excuse for the current government not to tell us their plan for how they are going to pay off the debt which they promised to do.
The LNP signed up to Gonski for 4 years, they signed up to the NDIS, they want a PPL, they are throwing away the revenue of the carbon tax and mining tax and are trying to make us believe they have a plan to pay back debt
If this debt crisis was so big, why didn't they have the guts to say we can't afford the NDIS or Gonski BEFORE the election ? If Labor is useless, then the LNP are either outright liars about the severity of the deficit, or just plain incompetent in throwing money into these areas when we can't afford it.
The fact of the matter is Doc, it was unfortunate we had to have an extra 3 years of hard Labor from 2010 to 2013.
The other fact is the one I was trying send home a message on my thread ..."Communism is not dead and buried".
Gillard was a member of the Fabian Society, a communist off shoot, and she still was as Prime Minister...she had a sinister intent to bring down the economy of Australia which is the trait of communism...She did it by borrowing in excess, spending in excess on stupid projects in the guise of having to do it because of the GFC...it worked in very well for her resulting in what we have today.
The end result would have been to nationalize all industry, mining and agriculture to be controlled by the state....the far socialist left do not believe in free enterprise and today we can see the results of her effort.
Oh yes the pain is now about to begin and the coalition will have to fix the problem that has been created....How foolish our voters were in 2010.
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Yes well said, the need to bump an 8 year old thread to lay the boot into a party that is now on the rebuild in opposition is rather mundane. I might understand if the criticism was from swinging voters but many of those replying in this thread would have to be considered to have a strong political predisposition and wouldn't really ever consider voting for the Labor party anyway. Let's not forget we require an opposition for a strong democracy.
Perhaps their efforts should be more concentrated on the Paid Parental leave scheme and the 3.2 billion waste that is direct action and keeping the current government accountable.
And don't forget to get rid of the useless Mining and carbon tax...you know the carbon tax Gillard said would never happen...don't forget Rudd said he would scarp the carbon tax before the 2013 election....you blokes have very short memories.
And don't forget to get rid of the useless Mining and carbon tax...you know the carbon tax Gillard said would never happen...don't forget Rudd said he would scarp the carbon tax before the 2013 election....you blokes have very short memories.
Come on now, Just because she has red hair
What has the red hair got to do with her...it was dyed anyway...it is what was under the red hair that matters and it was evil.
It certainly was not in the interest of our nation.
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If Tony wasn't going to implement such an inept policy to replace the carbon tax with then I would agree that Labor should vote to scrap it, all though I believe the coalition wouldn't if they were in opposition. The coalition rightly or wrongly certainly made the governments life as difficult as possible while in opposition and it seems Labor are attempting to do the same. We will find out next week how long that can last with the balance of the senate up for grabs. You must have too much time on your hands to bump 8 year old threads back up.
How about we see how the current government handles a difficult economic period, the Howard government was never tested by anything similar (the dot com crash didn't come close).
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The Howard Government had to deal with the hangover of Labor Debt but not to the same extent as now, either in nominal or real terms.
And as discussed many times they dealt with that by selling many government assets which were largely responsible for the strong financial position Howard left us in. Even though this government is already looking to sell Medibank Private there are few other government assets worth significant value that they can sell. So this time round will be much tougher which is all the more reasons that the economy can't afford the paid parental scheme and direct action.