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IFocus said:
There is often a bit of favouritism but Bronwyn Bishop basically doesn't under stand the basic conventions.
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She has 6-weeks to brush up on the standing orders and to understand that when she seats a member, she should just seat them and not engage in further debate with that member at that member's prompting.

The latter was where Labor were able to ware her down. One thing she can be sure of is that Labor will continue to test her.
 
drsmith said:
She has 6-weeks to brush up on the standing orders and to understand that when she seats a member, she should just seat them and not engage in further debate with that member at that member's prompting.

The latter was where Labor were able to ware her down. One thing she can be sure of is that Labor will continue to test her.
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She doesn't have the intellectual capacity to do the job. She's been there for almost a decade. If she doesn't know the standing orders back to front at this stage she's never going to get her head around them.
 
banco said:
She doesn't have the intellectual capacity to do the job. She's been there for almost a decade. If she doesn't know the standing orders back to front at this stage she's never going to get her head around them.
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Labor picked off a few clangers during her speakership in their suspension attempt on Thursday. This was from a prepared document so it was obviously planned. How it compares with other speakers I don't know. No one's perfect and all make mistakes at some time. One thing of note is that Christoper Pyne didn't come to her defence on those issues.

Her biggest mistake in my view has been to lose control by allowing herself to be drawn into debate with opposition front benchers. That puts her into a partisan trap. She's better to simply enforce her authority rather than waver from the chair and sort out any problems later.

In the end, she may not have the intellectual capacity to do the job as you say.
 
SirRumpole said:
By the tone of some of the comments here, maybe this thread should be called "Useless Bronwyn Bishop"

:D
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The following article on BB offers an interesting perspective,

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...bronwyn-bishop-as-speaker-20140328-35olh.html

Meanwhile, on the substance of this thread, 100 days with no boats and Labor still don't get it.

Opposition immigration spokesman Richard Marles said it was “too early to proclaim victory”. “It’s not a footy match - it is not about scoreboards and banners and slogans. It is about serious public policy addressing a very, very complicated issue,” he said.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ylumseeker-boats/story-fn9hm1gu-1226868417591

It is about scoreboards and the lower the numbers on this particular issue, the better.

Usless Labor Party.
 
drsmith said:
She has 6-weeks to brush up on the standing orders and to understand
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Well standing orders is another issue to add to the list its the blatant disregard for convention thats very damning.
 
IFocus said:
Well standing orders is another issue to add to the list its the blatant disregard for convention thats very damning.
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What was it exactly that Harry Jenkins did wrong ?

Wrong place at the wrong time ?

Usless Labor Party.
 
drsmith said:
What was it exactly that Harry Jenkins did wrong ?

Wrong place at the wrong time ?

Usless Labor Party.
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The Labor Patry have two and a bit years to get their act together. Until then this thread is essentially irrelevant.

The Libs were virtually invisible in Opposition during Rudd/Gillard, but they had their heads down working on tactics(albeit pretty weak populist ones).

The Labor party has to get itself together again. They will have a chance at the next election because the LNP have already done the most popular thing it can do (stop the boats), and it will be downhill for them from now on.
 
SirRumpole said:
By the tone of some of the comments here, maybe this thread should be called "Useless Bronwyn Bishop"

:D
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So why don't you start another thread rummpy?

Like the other one you started about "CORRUPTION IN THE LIBERAL PARTY"......you might get two replies again.
 
SirRumpole said:
The Labor party has to get itself together again. They will have a chance at the next election because the LNP have already done the most popular thing it can do (stop the boats), and it will be downhill for them from now on.
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Stopping the boats isn't about popularity, it's about securing our borders. That's the most fundamental responsibility of any sovereign government. The first thing Labor needs to do there is genuinely kick the Greens out of their bed and out of the house before they fulfill their dreams of trashing our sovereignty altogether.

Fat chance of that in the foreseeable future. The Greens have sapped too much of Labor's primary vote.

Usless Labor Party.
 
SirRumpole said:
The Labor party has to get itself together again. They will have a chance at the next election because the LNP have already done the most popular thing it can do (stop the boats), and it will be downhill for them from now on.
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It may well be down hill from here, now they have to sort the diabolical financial mess Labor caused.

It would be much easier, just to adopt Labor policy and run us further into debt, now that would be the popular thing.
Also it would be the easy thing to do.
 
sptrawler said:
Also it would be the easy thing to do.
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The hard thing for the LNP to do is take money from those who can most afford it, because those people are the LNP's majority supporters.

I wait expectantly for Hockey to take the tough decisions and tax the rich more, if he does, then he is courageous indeed.
 
SirRumpole said:
The hard thing for the LNP to do is take money from those who can most afford it, because those people are the LNP's majority supporters.

I wait expectantly for Hockey to take the tough decisions and tax the rich more, if he does, then he is courageous indeed.
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Well they haven't been throwing money at big business, if you hadn't noticed.

Yet Labor were saying they would have bailed them out, I wonder where they would have found the money?
 
SirRumpole said:
I wait expectantly for Hockey to take the tough decisions and tax the rich more, if he does, then he is courageous indeed.
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That's what the carbon tax in conjunction with the compensation measures was designed to do.

In effect, a wealth redistribution at the expense of the rate of increase of the overall financial pie.

Usless Labor Party.
 
sptrawler said:
Well they haven't been throwing money at big business, if you hadn't noticed.

Yet Labor were saying they would have bailed them out, I wonder where they would have found the money?
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That wouldn't have been a problem for them. They'd just have borrowed a bit more to bail out the failing enterprises. No worries.
 
Julia said:
That wouldn't have been a problem for them. They'd just have borrowed a bit more to bail out the failing enterprises. No worries.
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Yes Julia, then try to dream up new taxes, to pay for another stupid policy decission that sends them further in debt.
It is amazing how people try to defend Labors absolute and obvious incompetence.
 
sptrawler said:
It is amazing how people try to defend Labors absolute and obvious incompetence.
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Yes, some of the things Labor did were dumb, like spending the mining tax before they received it. But it's now pointless discussing Labor because they are not in government any more. That some people continue to fixate on Labor indicates that they don't really have a lot of ideas on the way forward.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yes, some of the things Labor did were dumb, like spending the mining tax before they received it. But it's now pointless discussing Labor because they are not in government any more. That some people continue to fixate on Labor indicates that they don't really have a lot of ideas on the way forward.
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Past performance is the best indicator of future trend.

Usless Labor Party.
 
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