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noco said:
She learnt all her lessons from Anna Burke...Anna Burke was a past master at allowing Gillard, Rudd and Swan to get away with murder ...of course we won"t mention the latest Labor jail bird.
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What exactly did Anna Burke do? You are just making stuff up as usual.
 
SirRumpole said:
Throwing someone out for saying "Madam Speaker" is utterly corrupt imo.
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Labor don't want to debate the issues because on so many of them they are utterly compromised.

All they want to do is harass the speaker. She should throw the lot of them out.
 
drsmith said:
Labor don't want to debate the issues because on so many of them they are utterly compromised.
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There can be no DEBATE in question time, as the Opposition has no opportunity to give their point of view , only to ask questions, which simply results in a tirade against the Labor party, against standing orders.
 
SirRumpole said:
There can be no DEBATE in question time, as the Opposition has no opportunity to give their point of view , only to ask questions, which simply results in a tirade against the Labor party, against standing orders.
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That get the tirade they deserve, in particular the member for Lilley from Joe Hockey.

Whoever started this thread was a genius. In its 6-years in office, Labor demonstrated itself to be utterly useless.
 
banco said:
What exactly did Anna Burke do? You are just making stuff up as usual.
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Banco, it depends which side of the fence you are on.

I listened to plenty of question time under speaker Anna Burke....She was more biased than Bronwyn Bishop......The thing that has made Bishop notable is the bad behaviour of the opposition who deliberately set out to make a mockery of parliament and the speaker......the 98 who have been ejected deserved to be sent on their way........it has been a well rehearsed and orchestrated effort by the Labor Party....even blind Freddy would be able to follow the modus operandi of these ex union hacks.......they are champions at it, especially when dealing with employers....They know how to provoke, intimidate and bully.

Tony Bourke even read his movement of "NO CONFIDENCE" of the speaker which is evident it did not happen on the spare of the moment.......Labor had been building up their intimidation and provocation for the past two weeks and waited on the last sitting......it was all about conditioning the build up for the final curtain drop.
 
SirRumpole said:
Bronwyn Bishop is the worst, most biased Speaker I've heard. Compared to Harry Jenkins, Anna Burke and even the Slipper she is inferior.

Throwing someone out for saying "Madam Speaker" is utterly corrupt imo.

She got what she deserved. The motion was always going to lose, but something had to be done.

She allows every answer to be a tirade against the Opposition when standing orders specify that answers must pertain to the Minister's responsibilities, not to those that went before.

Question Time is a farce under her Speakership.
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Thrown out for saying "MADAM SPEAKER"????????????......Dreyfus actually said it in a derogatory manner..........

"MA DAME SPEAKER" being a slur on her character and that is why he was ejected......I listened to it first hand and still have a recording of it.
 
In the 21 years I've lived in Australia, Bronwyn Bishop has been mocked by both sides.

Imo she was a very poor choice because she did not come into the position with any semblance of respect from the opposition and some of her own side. What has happened could have been foreseen.

For all that, the opposition has made their lack of respect for her crystal clear from the start in a manner that, had the sides been reversed, and one of their own members being speaker, would have seen them whining about misogyny as they did when Julia Gillard was PM.

For all Mrs Bishop's faults she has had an uphill battle from the beginning and the disrespectful situation reflects badly on both parties. Tony Abbott should have had more sense than to put such a divisive figure into such an important position.
Yet another example of his poor judgement imo, along with his PPL and anachronistic revival of Knights and Dames.
 
noco said:
Banco, it depends which side of the fence you are on.

I listened to plenty of question time under speaker Anna Burke....She was more biased than Bronwyn Bishop......The thing that has made Bishop notable is the bad behaviour of the opposition who deliberately set out to make a mockery of parliament and the speaker......the 98 who have been ejected deserved to be sent on their way........it has been a well rehearsed and orchestrated effort by the Labor Party....even blind Freddy would be able to follow the modus operandi of these ex union hacks.......they are champions at it, especially when dealing with employers....They know how to provoke, intimidate and bully.

Tony Bourke even read his movement of "NO CONFIDENCE" of the speaker which is evident it did not happen on the spare of the moment.......Labor had been building up their intimidation and provocation for the past two weeks and waited on the last sitting......it was all about conditioning the build up for the final curtain drop.
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From liberal leaning journalist Peter Van Onselen two days ago:

I wrote a column in November lamenting her poor performance after just two weeks in the chair. My fear was that she wasn’t likely to improve. In fact, she has gotten worse.

Bishop throws Labor MPs out of the chamber with gay abandon. She regularly shuts down points of order before even hearing them. She enters the partisan debate, throwing quips and smirks into the equation in a way that should be beneath the Speaker. And she rarely if ever rules against the government on anything.

Before Bishop took up the position, several Liberal MPs told me that they thought it was a mistake to give it to her because she’d make herself the story.

But there was little MPs could do about her appointment: Tony Abbott wanted to dump her from the ministry and offering Bishop the Speakership was the only alternative he’d accept (the pair are close).

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ecoming-a-circus/story-fni6unxq-1226861941810
 
Julia said:
In the 21 years I've lived in Australia, Bronwyn Bishop has been mocked by both sides.

Imo she was a very poor choice because she did not come into the position with any semblance of respect from the opposition and some of her own side. What has happened could have been foreseen.

For all that, the opposition has made their lack of respect for her crystal clear from the start in a manner that, had the sides been reversed, and one of their own members being speaker, would have seen them whining about misogyny as they did when Julia Gillard was PM.

For all Mrs Bishop's faults she has had an uphill battle from the beginning and the disrespectful situation reflects badly on both parties. Tony Abbott should have had more sense than to put such a divisive figure into such an important position.
Yet another example of his poor judgement imo, along with his PPL and anachronistic revival of Knights and Dames.
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She was widely regarded as the least competent Minister in the Howard years so I guess the speakership was seen as a place to stash her where she couldn't do much damage but her incompetence won through....
 
If Ms Bishop were in the labor camp, I would think there would be some very loud screeches of "misogyny" by now. Thankfully the liberal women don't seem to find it necessary to hide behind their gender.
 
drsmith said:
That get the tirade they deserve, in particular the member for Lilley from Joe Hockey.

Whoever started this thread was a genius. In its 6-years in office, Labor demonstrated itself to be utterly useless.
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An "adult" government takes responsibility for their own actions and doesn't continually blame others, especially not in the childish way Hockey does it.

Joe has six weeks to play the blame game, then the spotlight should turn relentlessly on him and the government.
 
Six years of incompetent and costly government deserves at least 6 - 12 months of bagging.
 
noco said:
......it has been a well rehearsed and orchestrated effort by the Labor Party....even blind Freddy would be able to follow the modus operandi of these ex union hacks.......they are champions at it, especially when dealing with employers....They know how to provoke, intimidate and bully.
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Well put noco.:xyxthumbs
 
Let us be fair when analyzing this anomaly of point of order.

Many points of order by Burke and others bordered on argument and not a point of order as they were well aware.....hence the reason why in many cases they were asked to resume their seats.....they then showed more aggression by accusing her of bias because they could not get their own way.

These Labor people were doing their best to test the patience of Browyn Bishop in there constant attack on her authority....they did their best to vilify her at every opportunity....It is a wonder she did not get on her feet and accuse the opposition of being misogynists......I thought she handled the situation with grace and humor.

What is baffling to me is why they tried to move a motion of no confidence in her when they knew they did not have the numbers.....it was nothing more than a stunt to divert attention away from their refusal to scrap the carbon tax and the mining tax which has been hurting all week particularly in Western Australia....both parties in this case were looking for support in the up and coming senate election in that state in a weeks time.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...bishop-speaker-row/story-fn59niix-12268669746
 
You gotta hand it to the comrades, they are masters at attacking straw men. I've been listening to question time a lot and the comrade's conduct has been even more appalling than usual. The grass roots haters out in force too, my FaceAche newsfeed littered with all sorts of diabolical fallaciousness. Never have I seen such a poisonous period in oz politics, dragged into the sewer by those of the left.

Truly disturbing.
 
dragged into the sewer by those of the left.
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The far Right is dragging us into the sewer by proposing free hits by their supporters against small groups of people they happen to disagree with or whose colour is not white.
 
wayneL said:
You gotta hand it to the comrades, they are masters at attacking straw men. I've been listening to question time a lot and the comrade's conduct has been even more appalling than usual. The grass roots haters out in force too, my FaceAche newsfeed littered with all sorts of diabolical fallaciousness. Never have I seen such a poisonous period in oz politics, dragged into the sewer by those of the left.

Truly disturbing.
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totally agree, a disgusting display of animal behavior. As long as the labor party is full of outright criminals and ex-union thugs, there will be no credible opposition for the Australian voter.:cautious:
 
Far right..... Pfffffdfft.

The legislation in question is the most anti liberal piece of shyte that should never have entered the statutes.

Bigotry should rightly be spoken against at every opportunity, and be seriously uncool. Inciting violence and fear is one thing, but calling someone a name is not something to be legislated against. Education and the promotion of tolerance and fair play is far mot desirable IMO.

The left had created yet another despicable straw man argument over this.
 
wayneL said:
You gotta hand it to the comrades, they are masters at attacking straw men. I've been listening to question time a lot and the comrade's conduct has been even more appalling than usual. The grass roots haters out in force too, my FaceAche newsfeed littered with all sorts of diabolical fallaciousness. Never have I seen such a poisonous period in oz politics, dragged into the sewer by those of the left.

Truly disturbing.
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Bronwyn Bishop has been a shocker of a speaker and is well out of her depth thats beyond question.

There is often a bit of favouritism but Bronwyn Bishop basically doesn't under stand the basic conventions.


Ironically Slipper was far away a better speaker.
 
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