Useless Labor Party

[Tisme]

Don't forget we do live in a democracy....

No we don't! Who told you that?

The tenets of democracy are a government elected by the majority of the population acting under a constitution that guarantees, basic civil rights / human rights, religious liberty, separation of church and state and separation of powers.

Straight up what part of the executive exhibits separation of powers from the legislative?

Even back in my primary school days of grade 7, we were taught about legislative, executive and judicial and even back then primary schoolers asked the obvious questions about hypocrisy.

The trouble is that people think if it's not a Theocratic, Totalitarian or Authoritarian govt it must be a democracy.

 

[Ijustnewit]

Well Shorten and Labor want an increase of 10,000 refugees and $100 million given to the UN to help Europe pay for their intakes. It's a clear message to the Australians that don't want our Country overrun and taken advantage of by masses of economic refugees. Don't vote Labor back in , they will again open the floodgates again and bow to the UN. As we are now seeing in Germany and Austria , once you start you can't shut the gate .
Labor and the Greens would soon follow a similar plan if they were again back in charge.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well Shorten and Labor want an increase of 10,000 refugees and $100 million given to the UN to help Europe pay for their intakes. It's a clear message to the Australians that don't want our Country overrun and taken advantage of by masses of economic refugees. Don't vote Labor back in , they will again open the floodgates again and bow to the UN. As we are now seeing in Germany and Austria , once you start you can't shut the gate .
Labor and the Greens would soon follow a similar plan if they were again back in charge.

10,000 isn't even a good footy crowd.

 

[Ijustnewit]

10,000 isn't even a good footy crowd.

So how many are you willing to have under your roof ? And footy crowds pay an entrance fee .

 

[sval62]

10,000 isn't even a good footy crowd.

Maybe give them free membership to the Adelaide Crows,they would fit in well over there.

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Maybe give them free membership to the Adelaide Crows,they would fit in well over there.

You mean the team that regularly gets over 40,000 at a game?

 

[noco]

10,000 isn't even a good footy crowd.

How much will it all cost the taxpayers and would you willing to sacrifice from pay pay packet, pension or super.......Would you be willing to house one or two under your own roof and prove to be a good Aussie citizen ?

We are limited with our finances as to what we can do and don't forget the legacy we inherited from the Green/Labor left wing socialist Party and the corrupt unions.

Well, I guess we could just keep borrowing more like the Labor did and let the next generation pay for it all.

 

[SirRumpole]

How much will it all cost the taxpayers and would you willing to sacrifice from pay pay packet, pension or super.......Would you be willing to house one or two under your own roof and prove to be a good Aussie citizen ?

We are limited with our finances as to what we can do and don't forget the legacy we inherited from the Green/Labor left wing socialist Party and the corrupt unions.

Well, I guess we could just keep borrowing more like the Labor did and let the next generation pay for it all.

How much does tax concessions for the rich on superannuation cost the taxpayer ?

How much does business tax avoidance cost the taxpayer ?

 

[noco]

How much does tax concessions for the rich on superannuation cost the taxpayer ?

How much does business tax avoidance cost the taxpayer ?

I don't know......you tell me?

I asked you questions which you are reluctant to answer...

You passed it off with another question so I guess you would be reluctant to sacrifice anything yourself.

Talk the talk...walk the walk.

 

[SirRumpole]

I don't know......you tell me?

I asked you questions which you are reluctant to answer...

You passed it off with another question so I guess you would be reluctant to sacrifice anything yourself.

Talk the talk...walk the walk.

You asked a question you were reluctant to answer.

You asked "How much will an extra 10,000 refugees cost the taxpayer" ?

So, what's your answer ?

Walk the walk buddy.

 

[drsmith]

How much will it cost ?

Good question.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg.../dailytelegraph/comments/playing_moral_bingo/

 

[sydboy007]

Is it wrong to say the Australian people bear some of the responsiblity for what's happening in the middle east.

The Howard Govt went in gung ho with the US and UK to depose Saddam. That's lead to the fault lines we now see breaking up countries along old tribal lines. Iraq is now 3 countries.

The US has to wear most of the blame, as it seems they trained the original ore of ISIS from disaffected Iraqui soldiers.

i doubt much of what's been happening in the region would be happening now if we'd stopped at Afghanistan, and spent the money wasted on the Iraq war on helping the Afghani's build a new nation.

We caccpeted aroudn 94,000 refugees over a 10 year period from the Vietnam war. We survived. We helped a lot of people who've become valued members of the Aussie way of life.

 

[SirRumpole]

We caccpeted aroudn 94,000 refugees over a 10 year period from the Vietnam war. We survived. We helped a lot of people who've become valued members of the Aussie way of life.

The Middle East may well be a different issue. Religious tensions and all that. The Vietnamese were fleeing a political war and didn't have an axe to grind against infidels.

 

[noco]

You asked a question you were reluctant to answer.

You asked "How much will an extra 10,000 refugees cost the taxpayer" ?

So, what's your answer ?

Walk the walk buddy.

Rumpy, don't beat around the bush......If you don't want to answer then say so.

Would you be prepared to sacrifice your pay and house one or more migrants?

I asked you first............ how much would it cost the country?

 

[noco]

How much will it cost ?

Good question.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg.../dailytelegraph/comments/playing_moral_bingo/

The LUG party could not care less what it costs.....$1 billion...$2 billion....so long as it makes the bottom line look worse for the government

 

[noco]

Is it wrong to say the Australian people bear some of the responsiblity for what's happening in the middle east.

The Howard Govt went in gung ho with the US and UK to depose Saddam. That's lead to the fault lines we now see breaking up countries along old tribal lines. Iraq is now 3 countries.

The US has to wear most of the blame, as it seems they trained the original ore of ISIS from disaffected Iraqui soldiers.

i doubt much of what's been happening in the region would be happening now if we'd stopped at Afghanistan, and spent the money wasted on the Iraq war on helping the Afghani's build a new nation.

We caccpeted aroudn 94,000 refugees over a 10 year period from the Vietnam war. We survived. We helped a lot of people who've become valued members of the Aussie way of life.

Sydboy, for once I have to agree with you, they should have left Saddam Husein to control Iraq and let them sort themselves out......It was the burning of some 500 oil wells in Kuwait by Iraq that drew the Yanks into conflict with Iraq.

Most of those countries really need to operate under a dictatorship.......They also should have left Colonel Gadaffi in Libya but Rudd insisted that he must go.

 

[drsmith]

If Saddam hadn't barged into Kuwait, he would have been left to his own devices.

The trouble with dictators though is that they can get overly drunk with power and hence too big for their own boots and Saddam was a classic case.

 

[sydboy007]

Sydboy, for once I have to agree with you, they should have left Saddam Husein to control Iraq and let them sort themselves out......It was the burning of some 500 oil wells in Kuwait by Iraq that drew the Yanks into conflict with Iraq.

Most of those countries really need to operate under a dictatorship.......They also should have left Colonel Gadaffi in Libya but Rudd insisted that he must go.

Oh my. I never thought I'd hear you criticise your messiah Howard. Just think of the billions Australia had wasted being stuck in Iraq and now Syria. Think of the soldiers who had to endure what was an unjust invasion, occupation, and now civil war.

You hold labor responsible for the pink bat deaths. How many deaths is Howard at least partly responsible for?

 

[sydboy007]

If Saddam hadn't barged into Kuwait, he would have been left to his own devices.

The trouble with dictators though is that they can get overly drunk with power and hence too big for their own boots and Saddam was a classic case.

Oh really. Remind me of the timeline from the Kuwait invasion to the overthrowof Saddam.

Oh and remind me of the legal justification for the invasion of Iraq that wag provided to the Australian public, and how accurate that justification was.

 

[noco]

Oh my. I never thought I'd hear you criticise your messiah Howard. Just think of the billions Australia had wasted being stuck in Iraq and now Syria. Think of the soldiers who had to endure what was an unjust invasion, occupation, and now civil war.

You hold labor responsible for the pink bat deaths. How many deaths is Howard at least partly responsible for?

Howard was not responsible for any deaths.......The involvement in Iraq was a bi-partisan event with the then Labor Party in opposition.

You want to blame Howard but you do mention Rudd's decision to go along with killing Colonel Gaddaffi.