Ukraine War

[greggles]

RE: "When this war is eventually over and Russian forces are expelled from Ukrainian lands"

What makes you so sure that will eventuate/be the case !?!?

Well the war has definitely turned in Ukraine's favour recently and I am hoping they will be able to keep the momentum going. I also hope that Ukraine can get the upper hand over forces that have comitted so many war crimes against them. I would also like to see the Putin regime come to an end.

 

[bluekelah]

Sounds like you were watching Russian state media, not the brutal genocidal war Putin has been waging.

Nah I watch too much youtube, youtubers are usually the ones showing whats happening on the ground, Just like before covid hit australia, if you watched youtube the chinese students were already uploading videos of crowded hospitals etc from an unknown winter flu even in jan2020 period and talking about how their hospitals were overcrowded with a mystery flu virus since OCT2019.

usually you can catch those live footage and videos before youtube censors them away.
There was a news channel WION which reports fairly on the happenings in the war but youtube shut them down for having some reports that sounded pro-russian but in the end had to put them back on as those reports were the same as what all the other media outlets were reporting..

There's gonna be death and destruction in war, ridiculous propaganda on both side etc.. Usually in the end victors write the story. We'll see, but I believe until the nuclear threat to Russia issue is resolved, Russia will keep pushing into Ukraine, just like what happened in 1960s with the Cuban missile crisis

 

[bigdog]

Ukraine should move their Russian prisoners to locations where Russia are bombing and sending missiles to!

Would be embarrassing for Russia when Ukraiine reports that Russian prisoners were killed!

 

[Value Collector]

Ukraine should move their Russian prisoners to locations where Russia are bombing and sending missiles to!

Would be embarrassing for Russia when Ukraiine reports that Russian prisoners were killed!

That’s actually a war crime under the Geneva convention and Rome statute.

 

[moXJO]

That’s actually a war crime under the Geneva convention and Rome statute.

Civilian cities would be fine. Just the military installations I thought?

 

[Belli]

FFS, really?

 

[Value Collector]

Civilian cities would be fine. Just the military installations I thought?

Mmm, I am not sure ?.

I think that would be a grey area that no rational military commander would want to step into, it’s also hard to achieve practically.

I mean POW’s are still prisoners, they take manpower and infrastructure to contain and look after, and can be dangerous. Distributing the POWs around a city could be a logistical nightmare.

 

[greggles]

Make no mistake, this is a war of genocide against Ukraine and the Russians no longer even attempt to disguise their intentions. This is why Russia must be defeated at any cost.

 

[Value Collector]

FFS, really?

Holy cow!!! He must have thought they were dummies. Should have called in the Sappers to double check.

 

[SirRumpole]

UN:
A majority does not mean right..look at Hitler elections if anyone disagree
I think the best way would be a kind of split between 3 blocks
US/west , china/russia and maybe india brazil etc 3rd group, each with no veto but majority required to pass a resolution.
Realistically hard to achieve, but listening to US and parotting EU one side vs. China and paid friendly countries is not exactly helping fairness or mankind.
Maybe there is no solution.

I would say all the Western countries should withdraw from the UN and form their own organisation.

That way they can't be vetoed by Russia , China or other despots.

The UN is a slave to China and the Arabs.

 

[qldfrog]

I would say all the Western countries should withdraw from the UN and form their own organisation.

That way they can't be vetoed by Russia , China or other despots.

The UN is a slave to China and the Arabs.

And we could bomb then happily bomb Serbia, let Armenia be wipedout and then light candles and add a flag on FB after the next islamist bomb in Paris London, or for a change Sydney or Washington .
The world would be wonderfull, except the UN is actually the tool of the woke/Reset.

 

[Sean K]

FFS, really?

Russian military recruiters have been instructed to prioritise eye testing for armoured corps drivers.

 

[moXJO]

Mmm, I am not sure ?.

I think that would be a grey area that no rational military commander would want to step into, it’s also hard to achieve practically.

I mean POW’s are still prisoners, they take manpower and infrastructure to contain and look after, and can be dangerous. Distributing the POWs around a city could be a logistical nightmare.

Probably better logistics then rebuilding
It would have to be higher ranking Russians as Russia doesn't seem to care that much about its troops.

 

[Value Collector]

Probably better logistics then rebuilding
It would have to be higher ranking Russians as Russia doesn't seem to care that much about its troops.

The Global population in general is on Ukraines side, I think it’s best of them to continue with the good guy routine though.

Also, Ukraine is trying to entice the Russians to surrender, Using them as human shields might not be the best idea.

 

[moXJO]

The Global population in general is on Ukraines side, I think it’s best of them to continue with the good guy routine though.

Also, Ukraine is trying to entice the Russians to surrender, Using them as human shields might not be the best idea.

I'm worried the global population is more on Russias side.
China
North Korea
Saudi
Pakistan
Iran
South African nations I think.
Cuba
Syria

There's plenty of others. The West is probably on advantage from a financial position.

 

[qldfrog]

I'm worried the global population is more on Russias side.
China
North Korea
Saudi
Pakistan
Iran
South African nations I think.
Cuba
Syria

There's plenty of others. The West is probably on advantage from a financial position.

Probably add Americas below the rio Grande

 

[Value Collector]

I'm worried the global population is more on Russias side.
China
North Korea
Saudi
Pakistan
Iran
South African nations I think.
Cuba
Syria

There's plenty of others. The West is probably on advantage from a financial position.

I meant the countries that matter to Ukraine, Eg the ones supplying it with all the assistance.

 

[StockyGuy]

So morbidly curious what would happen if Putin dropped a "tactical" nuke or two on Ukraine. Highly suspect he wins that round of chess - he'll be left to take over that (irradiated) land completely. The West will accept any Ukrainians (and Russians for that matter) who can get out, and be done with the matter. Even more complete iron curtain then re-descends.

Seems incomprehensible anyone as intelligent as Putin could do something so monstrous as use a nuclear bomb in these times, but chance of it has to be in the double digits by now, percentagewise.

 

[moXJO]

The big threat to the Ukraines is losing starlink. Once communication goes they are going to lose a lot of ground.

 

[Value Collector]

So morbidly curious what would happen if Putin dropped a "tactical" nuke or two on Ukraine. Highly suspect he wins that round of chess - he'll be left to take over that (irradiated) land completely. The West will accept any Ukrainians (and Russians for that matter) who can get out, and be done with the matter. Even more complete iron curtain then re-descends.

Seems incomprehensible anyone as intelligent as Putin could do something so monstrous as use a nuclear bomb in these times, but chance of it has to be in the double digits by now, percentagewise.

It depends how big the “tactical Nuke” is, they can be relatively small.

The N word scares people, and if he did use a Nuclear weapon it would cause a massive reaction politically, but depending on its size and placement it may or may not have any great military impact, beyond causing a lot of local damage and scaring the crap out of any troops thinking of approaching the next possible strike zone.