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Knew a guy that was in the Rwanda peace keeping mission (I think it was that one).
Said he was standing at the gate of some building. The people on the other side of the fence were being hacked to pieces with machetes. All the while they were screaming for help. He said he was begging to intervene but was stood down. So he had to stand there and watch.

Killed himself few years back, he struggled with the demons of it for a while though.
 
Trump has done everything Putin wanted yet Putin won't agree to a ceasefire.

Why?

Since he got everything he wanted from Trump there is no reason to not conquer the country now.

Appeasement.
 
"We are not a salad or compote to be on Putin's menu, despite his appetites."
- Zelensky
 
For some brilliant coverage of " Operation Pipe line " check out History legends ' You Tube vid : " How Russia Knocked Out Ukraine From Kursk " . 41 minutes .
 
Ukraine triples its weapons production in a year – The Economist

Ultimately, regardless of the ceasefire, Ukraine must eventually turn into a "steel porcupine" equipped with everything she needs to repel any Russian attack. The Ukrainian military-industrial complex is quite capable of providing the country with most of the missiles, armored vehicles, drones, and artillery shells needed to resist the Russians. After the Soviet era, Ukraine's military industry significantly reduced in size but retained its industrial base. Now, it is accompanied by hundreds of new productions and a dynamic process of innovation provoked by a full-scale war. While in Western Europe, it takes several years from the creation of a new development to its availability to the military, in Ukraine it takes a few months.

Last year, Ukraine produced $10 billion worth of weapons, which is ten times more than in 2022 and three times more than in 2023, the publication writes, citing a report by the Ukrainian Institute for the Future (UIF). This includes more than 800 private and state-owned companies and more than 300,000 employees. This year, production volumes are expected to reach $15 billion – but in total, companies are capable of producing $35 billion worth of weapons. The constraint is simply lack of money, which Kyiv hopes allies will assist with, the publication says.

Ukraine is already covering about half of its arms needs, former Defense Minister Andrii Zahorodniuk. And Russia's strikes do not seem to be affecting this progress. "Some facilities have been hit five times or more, but they survive," Mr Zahorodniuk says.

This year, Ukraine expects to produce 5 million FPV drones that dominate the battlefield, compared with 2 million last year. Also, 30,000 bigger long-range drones, 3,000 cruise missiles, such as the new Long Neptune, and "missile-drones", such as the turbojet-powered Palianytsia. Ukraine is also testing her own ballistic missiles on Russian targets. These are extremely fast and thus harder to intercept. Although Fabian Hoffmann, a missile expert, reckons those numbers for big missiles may be ambitious.

The Economist calls Ukraine's electronic-warfare technology one of the most advanced in the world and definitely better than Russian and European ones. In particular, it refers to the Lima jammer, which scrambles the guidance system of the Russian glide bombs.

The key problem of the Ukrainian defense industry is the lack of air defense systems. The need for them is so great that even imports cannot cope with it. However, in January, Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi announced confirmed that Ukraine is developing a system that can shoot down ballistic missiles. Ukraine has also established a joint venture with the French firm Thales, one of the manufacturers of the SAMP-T air-defense system. Some European partners understand that investing in Ukrainian arms production is the fastest and most effective way to maintain our defense capabilities. However, the amount of money allocated so far amounts to hundreds of millions of euros, not billions, as the situation requires, the publication says.

 
Trump’s “final offer” for peace requires Ukraine to recognize Russian occupation. Axios revealed what exactly the U.S. is offering Ukraine and Russia in its peace plan.

What Russia gets:
— U.S. legal recognition of Russian control over Crimea
— De facto recognition of Russia’s occupation of most of Luhansk and parts of Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia
— A promise that Ukraine won’t join NATO (but could join the EU)
— Lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014
— Expanded U.S.–Russia economic cooperation, especially in energy and industry
What Ukraine gets:
— “Security guarantees” from a group of European and possibly other friendly nations - without U.S. participation. No details on the peacekeeping format
— Return of a small part of occupied Kharkiv region
— Free navigation along the Dnipro River near the frontline in the south
— Compensation and rebuilding aid - with no clear funding source.
Other details:
— Zaporizhzhia NPP will be formally Ukrainian, but operated by the U.S. Power to be shared between Ukraine and Russia
— A U.S.–Ukraine minerals deal is mentioned, expected to be signed Thursday, according to Trump.
..
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Ukraine is focused on a 30-day ceasefire in London negotiations, sidestepping US "peace plan". Trump’s proposal is the final US offer, if there’s no deal, the United States walks, - Axios
 
Dona Ferentes said:
Trump’s “final offer” for peace requires Ukraine to recognize Russian occupation. Axios revealed what exactly the U.S. is offering Ukraine and Russia in its peace plan.

What Russia gets:
— U.S. legal recognition of Russian control over Crimea
— De facto recognition of Russia’s occupation of most of Luhansk and parts of Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia
— A promise that Ukraine won’t join NATO (but could join the EU)
— Lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014
— Expanded U.S.–Russia economic cooperation, especially in energy and industry
What Ukraine gets:
— “Security guarantees” from a group of European and possibly other friendly nations - without U.S. participation. No details on the peacekeeping format
— Return of a small part of occupied Kharkiv region
— Free navigation along the Dnipro River near the frontline in the south
— Compensation and rebuilding aid - with no clear funding source.
Other details:
— Zaporizhzhia NPP will be formally Ukrainian, but operated by the U.S. Power to be shared between Ukraine and Russia
— A U.S.–Ukraine minerals deal is mentioned, expected to be signed Thursday, according to Trump.
..
.
Ukraine is focused on a 30-day ceasefire in London negotiations, sidestepping US "peace plan". Trump’s proposal is the final US offer, if there’s no deal, the United States walks, - Axios
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Rewards Russia / Putin with no certainty for Ukraine... pass.
 
IFocus said:
Rewards Russia / Putin with no certainty for Ukraine...
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“We cannot negotiate with people who say what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable.”

- John F. Kennedy speaking to the nation on 25 July 1961 on the possibility of war with the Soviet Union due to the Berlin Crisis. He said the U.S. will try diplomacy to avoid war.
 
Some good news.
Maybe Trump seeing Zelensky as very popular in Rome, he was clapped, and no Vance in the room but instead the input of the much better Scott Besant has enables Trump to strike a much better balance. The new deal is much more helpful. Now lets see what he does with Russia. I hope he will develop a spine on this but now he is listening more to more sensible people, I have a great hope.

Breaking: US, Ukraine sign deal two months after Oval Office clash

The US and Ukraine sign an agreement to create a "reconstruction investment fund", two months after initial plans to sign a wartime deal were shelved when the countries' leaders spectacularly clashed in the Oval Office.
www.abc.net.au
 
type in WW3 , as it's the 80th anniversary of Berlin's fall (08 May, not the revisionist Zhukov triumphalism)

"The common warning of countries affected by the Treaty of Munich, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and the Yalta Agreement"
....- Foreign Ministers of Ukraine, Estonia, Czechia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Poland published a piece in the New York Times. It highlights the lessons from WWII that "must be taken into account if we want to create an enduring peace in Ukraine, rather than a pause before the next potentially disastrous global conflict."

These lessons are as follows (... recommended strongly to read the whole article, it has much more than listed here):
- Appeasing the aggressor leads to more aggression, not peace.
- Spheres of influence never bring peace and stability. They bring oppression.
- A lack of accountability breeds future atrocities.
- Historical manipulation must be corrected.
- ‘Freedom must be armed better than tyranny.’ (c) President Zelenskyy.

"Russia’s war of aggression has shattered the post-World War II security architecture and the international system based on the United Nations Charter and the Helsinki Accords. Its conclusion will form the foundation for a new architecture,"
@andrii_sybiha,
@Tsahkna,
@JanLipavsky,
@Braze_Baiba,
@MihaiPopsoi
@BudrysKestutis,
@sikorskiradek


Here is the link to the article:
https://nytimes.com/2025/05/08/opinion/world-war-2-europe-peace.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR5hJODvgdrYxWE2XLq4G5nO7NTQdCTQV2KadLIFx52bzP2LyMRK4hGKio7Dgw_aem__VWF6ujUTZDtDo_AL5ZfpA
 


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