TZL - TZ Limited

[treefrog]

I doubt you own more than 1000 shares.

Deal?

So 100,000 TZL straight up on whether I currently hold TZL shares.
And a separate 100,000 TZL if I own more than 1000 then.

It is extremely simple Pommie, no need for evasive complications.

 

[MangaNOID]

Pommie..., Tree.....

I dont want to act as moderator but maybe you should take your babble to PM.

thank you both for your input on TZL but I don't want to have to read this petty rubbish!

 

[Pommiegranite]

Pommie..., Tree.....

I dont want to act as moderator but maybe you should take your babble to PM.

thank you both for your input on TZL but I don't want to have to read this petty rubbish!

Manga..you don't have to. Use the ignore list as I am about to with the Frog.

Frog...you are now just being a pest. Onto 'ignore' permanently.

Please discuss the stock in future.

 

[shaunm]

Looks like the stoush between Messers P.Granite & T.Frog has fired up the market for TZL!
Up 10.4% is so nice to see. Bring on the end or May and onwards.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Looks like the stoush between Messers P.Granite & T.Frog has fired up the market for TZL!
Up 10.4% is so nice to see. Bring on the end or May and onwards.

Shaun, probably Froggie buying up.

Seriously though, I wouldn't read too much into it yet. DKR still have about $9.6 million to convert by the 4june. They could quite easily com along and dump 50k shares. (I expect)

One thing is for sure though, and that is the closer we get to ASX delisting, the more information begins to come out.

Remember Larson Doors are expceting to launch their new product line this coming American summer.

 

[shaunm]

I'll be keeping a close eye mate.
What a great day up 15%. If that DKR mob do sell the price down again I will be off-loading some other holdings to put into TZL.

 

[Pommiegranite]

I'll be keeping a close eye mate.
What a great day up 15%. If that DKR mob do sell the price down again I will be off-loading some other holdings to put into TZL.

There were a lot of at market buys today. There always have been on positive runs like this. I believe that there are a lot of watchers of this stock.
Accumulation is so tough with this stock. Putting the highest buy order of any substance usually means you order is 'trumped'.

Anyways, the story is unravelling this year.

 

[EXDXBPAT]

There were a lot of at market buys today. There always have been on positive runs like this. I believe that there are a lot of watchers of this stock.
Accumulation is so tough with this stock. Putting the highest buy order of any substance usually means you order is 'trumped'.

Anyways, the story is unravelling this year.

Have been enjoying the banter and analysis from afar for awhile.. so couldn't resist a chance for some repartee-

Gees Pommie, I almost fell off my chair when you used the word "unravelling"- (a problem with the "fasteners" perhaps?) - I prefer to think of the current situation as "being discretely revealed" ...

Anyway, I am very interested in what seems to be the beginnings of an increase in volume traded (today's volume pretty much highest in 3 months). While I am endeavouring to DMOR and appreciate Pommie's analysis of the likelihood of further stock to be absorbed pre 4th June, it makes it very interesting (for laggards like me) to determine an appropriate entry point over the next month. Have we seen the last of $3..?

I think I will be able to learn a lot from how this plays out (over the next month) and especially the next 6-12 months re NASDAQ listing, early adopters coming on board, etc.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Anyway, I am very interested in what seems to be the beginnings of an increase in volume traded (today's volume pretty much highest in 3 months). While I am endeavouring to DMOR and appreciate Pommie's analysis of the likelihood of further stock to be absorbed pre 4th June, it makes it very interesting (for laggards like me) to determine an appropriate entry point over the next month. Have we seen the last of $3..?

It really is an impossible one to call. IMO, the technicals are out of the window on this one at the moment, as there are too many games being played. For example have a look at the low volume trades which are still occuring due to alogrithmic trading.

The SP could go back down to $3.5 or could keep on heading upwards. However, as each day passes, the upward pressure increases.

I've bought in the 2s 3s 4s and 5s and am still buying as I with the end rewards for available to me, a few million due to higher entry prices will not make a meaningful difference to me.

One thing we can be sure off is that when the real run happens on the expected NASDAQ announcement, there really will be little available.

Management have already said at the AGM that they expect the shareprice reach the expected NASDAQ price (the NASDAQ price being p/e of 15 based on next 3 years earnings).

 

[hmj]

Zaal I have been aware of this for some time but was hesitant to post this, in case I were accused of trying to ramp up a stock.

However, now that you have brought it up, what the hell. I will go further to say that the sale of 16million units is worth $16EPS, or on a NASDAQ p/e average of 50 - $794 share price.

An important point to remember is that this is for only 1 of 6 vehicle applications identified so far, and ground transport is 1 of 6 taget markets and not neccessarily the largest.

IMHO , there are future billionaires shareholders in the company, of which I will be one of many.

Just curious, I've been trying to research what a "standard" SP for NASDAQ shares are and I'm struggling to find any over $200. Most seem to be $40 or thereabouts.

Are there NASDAQ listed companies with SPs in the '000s?

 

[Pommiegranite]

Just curious, I've been trying to research what a "standard" SP for NASDAQ shares are and I'm struggling to find any over $200. Most seem to be $40 or thereabouts.

Are there NASDAQ listed companies with SPs in the '000s?

hmj...i wouldn't look at shareprices on NASDAQ as an indicator. Concentrate on Market Caps and P/Es.

When share prices rise to a certain amount, there are frequently share splits (eg 2:1 or 10:1) to keep the share price more on a par with others in the exhange and also to improve liquidity.

For example Yahoo has a higher SP than Microsoft. However Microsoft is worth several times Yahoo.

I use SP targets for comparison reasons (growth of TZ as a company) .

TZ had a reverse share split of 1:5 last year to increase the SP with a view to list on NASDAQ. If it were allowed to list with a miniscule SP, it would look silly if NASDAQ had some company shares with SPs of 2c and others with SPs of $600!

 

[hmj]

So to clarify, does that mean if say you hold 1,000 shares and they are valued at $600 each, but they are to be listed on the NASDAQ at $60 you would then have 10,000 shares?

 

[Pommiegranite]

So to clarify, does that mean if say you hold 1,000 shares and they are valued at $600 each, but they are to be listed on the NASDAQ at $60 you would then have 10,000 shares?

That is correct.

TZ announced in 29th Feb's half yearly, that a 'scheme of arrangement' would be undertaken.

What this generally means is that a new company will be created on NASDAQ. This company will aquire all of TZ(ASX)'s assets, liabilites and equity.

Here is Oz we will be left with a none trading shell of a company, and in the US the new company will have a new share structure with a an offer to shareholders at the time of ASX delist for shares in the new company.

 

[shaunm]

I have not been involved in a company before that has listed on the Nasdaq. P.Granite could you please explain what will happen regarding our stock holding. Obviously we will keep it at a higher value but what will be different?

 

[Pommiegranite]

I have not been involved in a company before that has listed on the Nasdaq. P.Granite could you please explain what will happen regarding our stock holding. Obviously we will keep it at a higher value but what will be different?

From my understanding, there will be an offer to us shareholders (at a small premium I expect) to take stock of our hands.

You can accept and be paid, or hold out for the transfer to NASDAQ, where upon you will receive equivilent stock in the new company.

Should you decide the latter, you would need to find a broker who allows you to trade NASDAQ shares (I believe Comsec provides this service).

This part I'm not sure about, but I'm assuming that in the US there is the equivilent of CHESS. They would provide a number for your holdings (equivilent of HIN). It is this number which you would provide to your new broker to have your shares available to trade in your new account.

Remember, that directors are also major shareholders, so they will do what is in their and our interests.

 

[shaunm]

Thanks for that.
I have dealt with a broker for a potential trade on the NASDAQ and he advised me that the whole trading process over in the US is not as "online" and instant as it is here.
Also I believe there are 2 sectors to the NASDAQ. The smaller companies are on the OTC (Over The Counter) trading, and the big boys are on the full blown version.
I wonder where TZ will end up?

 

[treefrog]

Remember, that directors are also major shareholders, so they will do what is in their and our interests.

But only while their and our interests are compatible.
its hard to find directors (and shareholders generally) that do not sell out for the right offer (and that is not always share price)

 

[MangaNOID]

From my understanding, there will be an offer to us shareholders (at a small premium I expect) to take stock of our hands.

You can accept and be paid, or hold out for the transfer to NASDAQ, where upon you will receive equivilent stock in the new company.

hmmm... so what if this 'new' company decides to have say 10x the amount of shares that 'tzl' currently have, then buy 'tzl' out? we could have majorly diluted stock holdings? worth lots less than current value?

 

[ntphil]

Sold the lot at 445 yesterday. Now the pressure is on. Sorry guys but I hope the stock falls like a brick in the short term. I will hopefully come back in and top up at the right money. Time will tell.
ntphil

 

[Engin]

ntphil

"sold the lot" - goodness gracious. I wish you luck.

$4.45 will seem like small change in a few months time.

Did you read the Quarterly Report today? This company is just starting to make inroads to become a multimillion dollar enterprise.

I have held this now for 4 years when it was just an idea. I am now watching it sign up major companies who want its product.

In the past 12 months as each milestone has been announced, I have sold all my other stocks to increase my holding in TZL, and now hold a substantial number. Risky? Well, I'm conservative by nature, but in four years of research into TZL, I have never been more convinced this will make me very wealthy indeed.

I wish you the best of luck in your attempt to get back in at a lower price.