Tyranny

[Knobby22]

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useful idiot

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Some people will believe anything they are told if it aligns with their beliefs.
That is the problem. They easily fall for propaganda and become sad computer junkies eagerly consuming stuff designed to keep them online and toeing the line to the purposes of the propagandist. Lies designed to build anger and become polarised. That goes for the right and the left, leading to the rise of a "great man" leading to tyranny. People need to use their analytical skills. rules such as Occams razor,etc.

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[wayneL]

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Some people will believe anything they are told if it aligns with their beliefs.
That is the problem. They easily fall for propaganda and become sad computer junkies eagerly consuming stuff designed to keep them online and toeing the line to the purposes of the propagandist. designed to build anger and become polarised. that goes for the right and the left.

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I agree.

But that is not "joining the dots" implies. Joining the dots means piecing together pieces of verifiable information and coming to a reasonable conclusion. This is in fact, apart from those very few slam dunk cases, judiciary is required to do when finding the guilt or innocence of someone before them.

True that one can come to an erroneous conclusion if the points of reference are too disparate and distant. It is also true that some people allow the media or other parties to join those disparate dots for them, for some political end.

However, there are so many things recently which have been branded as conspiracy theories that turned out to be true.

Those who have recently joined the dots castigated as misinformation, disinformation, liars, racists and whatnot. The truth prevails, eventually.

 

[Knobby22]

The truth prevails, eventually.

Some useful idiots.

 

[wayneL]

Some useful idiots.

Oh jeez, do we really want to fill the next 346,854,965,654,644 post with such examples from across the spectrum?

Or should we just stick with TDS?

 

[IFocus]

Some useful idiots.

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Ouch

 

[wayneL]

 

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[wayneL]

No matter what you think about the lockdowns, this arrest was @#$&in ridiculous; truly disturbing and alarming.

 

[moXJO]

No matter what you think about the lockdowns, this arrest was @#$&in ridiculous; truly disturbing and alarming.

This guy had a history I'm sure.

 

[Knobby22]

Ohio has fought back against tyranny today. The GOP tried to change the constitution to reduce the people's ability to change the constitution and reduce their vote.

Even many Republicans voted against it. Creeping tyranny. I wonder if they will try this in other states. Lincoln would have been disgusted.

Fox news were naturally for it.

Ohio sees massive voter turnout on GOP ballot question to protect state constitution from liberal activists

GOP supporters of a controversial Ohio ballot measure say passing it is the only way to stop progressive activists from hijacking the process to change the state constitution.

www.google.com.au

 

[Knobby22]

Further to above, Ohio gerrymandering is extreme which allows them complete control of the courts and state government despite the state often voting Democrat overall.
It is hard to set up a fascist one party state if people have equal votes, hence attempted change to constitution.

Ohio votes under 'extreme' gerrymandering that favors Republicans

Once a swing state, Ohio has turned solidly red. Extreme gerrymandering of legislative and congressional districts could keep it that way for a long time. Although Republicans control statewide offices such as governor, secretary of state and attorney general, the state is pretty evenly split...

publicintegrity.org

 

[macca]

Further to above, Ohio gerrymandering is extreme which allows them complete control of the courts and state government despite the state often voting Democrat overall.
It is hard to set up a fascist one party state if people have equal votes, hence attempted change to constitution.

Ohio votes under 'extreme' gerrymandering that favors Republicans

Once a swing state, Ohio has turned solidly red. Extreme gerrymandering of legislative and congressional districts could keep it that way for a long time. Although Republicans control statewide offices such as governor, secretary of state and attorney general, the state is pretty evenly split...

publicintegrity.org

At times, we hear of people complaining they Have to vote in Oz, but it does force people to actually vote and it means that noisy minorities find it easy to win Polls but hard to win elections (or referendums)

 

[wayneL]

Several jumped up Rozzers to arrest a poor autistic girl for something she said. The latest example of what is beyond belief now in Western countries.

Meanwhile, real crime is out of control.

 

[farmerge]

At times, we hear of people complaining they Have to vote in Oz, but it does force people to actually vote and it means that noisy minorities find it easy to win Polls but hard to win elections (or referendums)

It took Quensland a long time to rid itself of the Joh gerrymander.

 

[Smurf1976]

At times, we hear of people complaining they Have to vote in Oz, but it does force people to actually vote and it means that noisy minorities find it easy to win Polls but hard to win elections (or referendums)

Compulsory turning up at polling booths is one of those things that in a perfect world can be argued against but in practice it's the lesser of the available evils.

It at least blunts the power of fringe radicals.

 

[SirRumpole]

Compulsory turning up at polling booths is one of those things that in a perfect world can be argued against but in practice it's the lesser of the available evils.

It at least blunts the power of fringe radicals.

I'm a bit ambivalent about compulsory voting.

One one hand it's a bit disturbing having governments elected by people who don't care about what they are voting for, on the other hand in Australia at least people seem to make the right decisions when they actually turn up. Except at the 2019 election when Morrison was returned which was a blunder imo.

 

[farmerge]

I'm a bit ambivalent about compulsory voting.

One one hand it's a bit disturbing having governments elected by people who don't care about what they are voting for, on the other hand in Australia at least people seem to make the right decisions when they actually turn up. Except at the 2019 election when Morrison was returned which was a blunder imo.

And then there are the ones that don't put a mark on the ballet paper and the donkey voters.
Personally, I take voting as a massive priviledge, unlike in some countries where people die for the right to go to the polls to vote.

 

[Knobby22]

To impose tyranny you need foot soldiers.

"They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."-George Wallace.

Texas woman arrested after threats to Trump judge Tanya Chutkan

The 43-year-old allegedly uses a slur against Judge Chutkan and warns: "You are in our sights."

www.bbc.com

 

[wayneL]

To impose tyranny you need foot soldiers.

"They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution."-George Wallace.

Texas woman arrested after threats to Trump judge Tanya Chutkan

The 43-year-old allegedly uses a slur against Judge Chutkan and warns: "You are in our sights."

www.bbc.com

I think you have everything @55 backwards. While I don't condone threatening judges, the woman concerned believes herself to be fighting against an obvious tyranny.

 

[wayneL]

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