Two-way block

[Garpal Gumnut]

I see the resident blocker QF has been posting . Would some decent Netizen kindly copy that content such that it can be viewed by all?

Of course this may incur some wrath and you get blocked as well. But then we ask another kind person to copy the poster's work, and so on.

The Pioneer Intel Platoon of the 101st Motorized Battalion has just returned to the the Hotel and reports

From The Pond :

@qldfrog

Let's put a different view
I block, am blocked and happy to do it.
If you are in a party, you start talking to everyone in the room that you do not know yet, then make your choice to carry on or not the conversations.
If you are met with an arrogant presemptious twat, will you go back to talk to him/ her.no..
We each have our definition of freedom for example, mine is everone can do say what they want as long as they do not restrict my own.Same for IQ and EQ levels needed to have a 2 way conversation or just belong to society as i define it.
So if any of the above limits are broken, i block.
It is liberating: less time aka my life spent scrolling thru BS.
Covid was a revelator imho:
Numeracy and scientific ignorance as well as gullibility and definition of freedom.
It splits society, in a way for the better as we know where we each stand.
Dying or loosing one's mean of living while wearing a modern David star is not exactly a matter of being a snowflake is it?
ASF is just part of society.
So i block.
why would i follow or just read investment views from someone unethical, ignorant or ,at the opposite, so EQ deficient that even informed and accurate posts are wrapped in presumptuous slant.
And there is no living in a bubble risk.
Plenty of comnercial tv,walk in the street and social interactions or vote results to know i am not in the majority.
I could cry, i could fight, or i could try to live my life as per my definition of freedom and sciences..ohh so last century
For the piece of mind of many, keep the blocking in @joe ??.
Let's put a different view
I block, am blocked and happy to do it.
If you are in a party, you start talking to everyone in the room that you do not know yet, then make your choice to carry on or not the conversations.
If you are met with an arrogant presemptious twat, will you go back to talk to him/ her.no..
We each have our definition of freedom for example, mine is everone can do say what they want as long as they do not restrict my own.Same for IQ and EQ levels needed to have a 2 way conversation or just belong to society as i define it.
So if any of the above limits are broken, i block.
It is liberating: less time aka my life spent scrolling thru BS.
Covid was a revelator imho:
Numeracy and scientific ignorance as well as gullibility and definition of freedom.
It splits society, in a way for the better as we know where we each stand.
Dying or loosing one's mean of living while wearing a modern David star is not exactly a matter of being a snowflake is it?
ASF is just part of society.
So i block.
why would i follow or just read investment views from someone unethical, ignorant or ,at the opposite, so EQ deficient that even informed and accurate posts are wrapped in presumptuous slant.
And there is no living in a bubble risk.
Plenty of comnercial tv,walk in the street and social interactions or vote results to know i am not in the majority.
I could cry, i could fight, or i could try to live my life as per my definition of freedom and sciences..ohh so last century
For the piece of mind of many, keep the blocking in @joe ??.

For the thousands who serve but who are blocked. Words of wisdom indeed.

gg

 

[rcw1]

Good morning
rcw1 new bloke on the block (pardon the pun), for mine, do not agree with the block methodology.

Have a very nice Sunday.

Kind regards
rcw1

 

[Telamelo]

In principle I'm very firmly in the free speech camp that someone ought to be able to express their views in sensible manner and not face undue consequences.

You can preach religion to me all day if you like and I won't take offence even slightly no matter how passionately you express it. I do however reserve my right to hold a strongly opposing view and to express it in the same manner as you, with the expectation that you'll accept my right to do so just as I accept yours.

In reality however that's a somewhat idealistic goal in 2022. We're in a society where more than a few are indeed fragile like a flower and simply can't accept that anyone has a different world view to their own or even simply a different set of priorities within the same overall world view.

That approach is most unhelpful in my view. Always amazes me how many people actually prefer to be a victim there and reject anyone who points out where they're going wrong. If I'm going wrong well then I'd rather someone said it but clearly many would rather fail than be told.

I thus disagree with the concept of blocking others, and I most certainly haven't blocked anyone, but in practice support Joe's position. Hands are tied here really. If you're running a forum to which anyone can become a member then you're somewhat restrained by society's norms and it's a reality that many do feel a need to plug their ears when someone says something that makes them feel uncomfortable, indeed doing so has become increasingly common.

Personally though, well society (as distinct from ASF) needs a decent shakeup in my view. Stop being so damn easily offended people. Ignorance is not bliss.

I reiterate all of what you said/expressed above Smurf as agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Telamelo]

Good morning
rcw1 new bloke on the block (pardon the pun), for mine, do not agree with the block methodology.

Have a very nice Sunday.

Kind regards
rcw1

I'm with you rcw1 as am in the same anti-block methodology camp however feel that in open public forums the "report function" is necessary to enable moderator's to step in to try restore common sense/peace online when required.

 

[rcw1]

I'm with you rcw1 as am in the same anti-block methodology camp however feel that in open public forums the "report function" is necessary to enable moderator's to step in to try restore common sense/peace online when required.

100% Telamelo,
Would envisage allot more work for Joe, but, at the end of the day and when the dust settles .. .

Kind regards
rcw1

 

[Macquack]

I have one person on block and QldFrog has blocked me.
I am quite happy with this and think it should stay.

With the number of ASF members blocked by QldFrog, he must be just talking to himself now, if he had not been already.

 

[SirRumpole]

Personally though, well society (as distinct from ASF) needs a decent shakeup in my view. Stop being so damn easily offended people. Ignorance is not bliss.

Alas, the cancel culture is alive and well in so many parts of society.

 

[galumay]

Personally I would leave ASF if it were not for the block function, just like in real life there are many people I want no interaction with, I dont wish to share my ideas and opinions with them and I have no interest in them and their posts. There are far too many trolls and flamers on SM to use it without blocking function. Its the same on Twitter, FB etc, block often and block early!

Its a great filter to ensure the noise of the irrelevant, illiterate and ignorant is silenced and I can just concentrate on the content of those I am interested in and respect. Those that have similar values and integrity.

The great thing about blocking is there is no negative impact, no one is worse off for being blocked, and the blocker has a better quality of life!

A lot of QF's points are very similar to my views on it.

 

[Country Lad]

I did have a couple of members on block but on reflection, I unblocked them. There are some non-investment topics such as Covid and politics where there can be no discussion with some people, only “I’m right – you’re wrong” argument or the conspiracy theorists having a soapbox from which to yell loudly. With a science background I soon tired of the statements obviously without facts or definitive data or simply misleading data, so I blocked.

Now I simply go through the “New Posts” list and look at the topic and who has posted. If it is someone whose comments I can easily ignore regarding the topic or it is a topic in which I have no interest, I do not open it and it goes the way of “Mark Topics Read”. It is interesting how much less time I now spend reading rubbish or topics in which I have no interest. I know of a number of members who do the same.

So, can I make a suggestion @Joe Blow and that is to have a poll of whether the majority of members really want the “block” function or whether we are happy to do what a number of members are doing now, and simply to ignore some posters/topics.

If the majority feel the “block” function is unnecessary, then it should go.

In my view, the block function restricts the freedom of speech here and the freedom to select what we want to read. Conversely, there is no limit to the individual member’s freedom to ignore.

 

[SirRumpole]

I did have a couple of members on block but on reflection, I unblocked them. There are some non-investment topics such as Covid and politics where there can be no discussion with some people, only “I’m right – you’re wrong” argument or the conspiracy theorists having a soapbox from which to yell loudly. With a science background I soon tired of the statements obviously without facts or definitive data or simply misleading data, so I blocked.

Now I simply go through the “New Posts” list and look at the topic and who has posted. If it is someone whose comments I can easily ignore regarding the topic or it is a topic in which I have no interest, I do not open it and it goes the way of “Mark Topics Read”. It is interesting how much less time I now spend reading rubbish or topics in which I have no interest. I know of a number of members who do the same.

So, can I make a suggestion @Joe Blow and that is to have a poll of whether the majority of members really want the “block” function or whether we are happy to do what a number of members are doing now, and simply to ignore some posters/topics.

If the majority feel the “block” function is unnecessary, then it should go.

In my view, the block function restricts the freedom of speech here and the freedom to select what we want to read. Conversely, there is no limit to the individual member’s freedom to ignore.

Some people that we generally disagree with may come up with aguments that we do agree with.

It would be a shame to miss that rare moment.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

 

[eskys]

Excellent posts for reflection today, folks.....we'll get better when we reflect and think them over...........

 

[JohnDe]

With the number of ASF members blocked by QldFrog, he must be just talking to himself now, if he had not been already.

The' 'block' function is open to abuse, as shown by qldfrog.

qldfrog blocked me because he did not like that I was posting linked facts that counteracted his views. That is fine, block me and don't read my post. However, that is not what gldfrog does.

A few weeks ago I was advised by another forum member that qldfrog had quoted one of my posts and commented on it. I have no idea if that was a one off or if gldfrog makes a habit of it. This is the abuse part of the function.

qldfrog blocks users, and still makes comments about those users posts. Blocked users are unable to see this, and thus unable to reply.

 

[qldfrog]

I did have a couple of members on block but on reflection, I unblocked them. There are some non-investment topics such as Covid and politics where there can be no discussion with some people, only “I’m right – you’re wrong” argument or the conspiracy theorists having a soapbox from which to yell loudly. With a science background I soon tired of the statements obviously without facts or definitive data or simply misleading data, so I blocked.

Now I simply go through the “New Posts” list and look at the topic and who has posted. If it is someone whose comments I can easily ignore regarding the topic or it is a topic in which I have no interest, I do not open it and it goes the way of “Mark Topics Read”. It is interesting how much less time I now spend reading rubbish or topics in which I have no interest. I know of a number of members who do the same.

So, can I make a suggestion @Joe Blow and that is to have a poll of whether the majority of members really want the “block” function or whether we are happy to do what a number of members are doing now, and simply to ignore some posters/topics.

If the majority feel the “block” function is unnecessary, then it should go.

In my view, the block function restricts the freedom of speech here and the freedom to select what we want to read. Conversely, there is no limit to the individual member’s freedom to ignore.

I disagree, as stated before, if i am not interested in any way by what someone has to say, why should i do it manually?
In that case and to take into account your opinion, which is fair, i think the real question is :
should we have a 2 way block?
I can block someone, but have no issue with this person reading my own posts, even replying and bagging me or turning read in anger in these.
As long as i do not have to read them, i could not care less..
So isnt it the only real question? The 2 way?

 

[divs4ever]

Alas, the cancel culture is alive and well in so many parts of society.

will cancel-culture be self-cancelling ??

after all they tend to create an echo culture , BUT then there is a problem of echoes not resonating in complete harmony of the current tune , after eliminating those NOT in complete harmony you lose the 'chorus effect' ( slight variations that give the impression of depth ) all the will be left is a single whiney ( soprano) theme

 

[SirRumpole]

As long as i do not have to read them, i could not care less..

Even if you see them you don't have to read them.

Who knows the blocked may agree with you sometimes.

Anyway, it's not a function worth dying for.

 

[qldfrog]

Even if you see them you don't have to read them.

Who knows the blocked may agree with you sometimes.

Anyway, it's not a function worth dying for.

Even if they do..would i care?
After reading so many repeating parrots on the covid issue, i went thru a big blocking day and decided who i wanted to read, or not.
Related to covid but not only:
ethics , extreme political views, and scientific veneer parading as education, and a couple arrogant twat.
Probably blocked 20 or so members in 2 or 3 day then .a big spring cleaning
I just checked 26 on my ignore list today
Saved time and found peace, felt better after and i am sure i missed nothing.
I only see one drawback for the forum:
I might post some data or link which might be redundant if one of these 26 persons did it before me, or after me if they block me.
That would be annoying and might have happened on the EV or energy thread

 

[qldfrog]

Even if they do..would i care?
After reading so many repeating parrots on the covid issue, i went thru a big blocking day and decided who i wanted to read, or not.
Related to covid but not only:
ethics , extreme political views, and scientific veneer parading as education, and a couple arrogant twat.
Probably blocked 20 or so members in 2 or 3 day then .a big spring cleaning
I just checked 26 on my ignore list today
Saved time and found peace, felt better after and i am sure i missed nothing.
I only see one drawback for the forum:
I might post some data or link which might be redundant if one of these 26 persons did it before me, or after me if they block me.
That would be annoying and might have happened on the EV or energy thread

Fwiw, this is how i personally see and used block.i do not pretend this is the way or is ideal but working for me.
Have all a great week end..

 

[Macquack]

Even if you see them you don't have to read them.

Who knows the blocked may agree with you sometimes.

Anyway, it's not a function worth dying for.

This is what annoys me with this blocking bullshite. I don't block anybody, but I have no idea what SirRumpole is talkng about in the above post because he is responding to a post that I can't read.

 

[SirRumpole]

This is what annoys me with this blocking bullshite. I don't block anybody, but I have no idea what SirRumpole is talkng about in the above post because he is responding to a post that I can't read.

That's where this whole blocking thing falls over. QldFrog has obviously doubled blocked you so you can't see his posts and any replies to it are not meaningful to you.

FYI here is the post I was replying to:-

"
I disagree, as stated before, if i am not interested in any way by what someone has to say, why should i do it manually?
In that case and to take into account your opinion, which is fair, i think the real question is :
should we have a 2 way block?
I can block someone, but have no issue with this person reading my own posts, even replying and bagging me or turning read in anger in these.
As long as i do not have to read them, i could not care less..
So isnt it the only real question? The 2 way?
"

If we have to keep doing this to keep people in the loop it will get tedious.