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Trump 2.0

The thing is, Trump is the only one saying he will try, the Democrats didn't even have the decency to try.

Whether he changes anything remains to be seen, as with labor here, he has to be given a chance.

The Democrats were and all that happened was conflict across the planet, but arms sales would have boomed.

As for wealth distribution, people have to have jobs to have any hope of money and that is the issue facing all western countries.
 


Trump actually isn't saying he will change wealth distribution other than to himself and fellow billionaires but he is saying he will cut government services to the lowest paid (already has) to cut debt.
 
Trump actually isn't saying he will change wealth distribution other than to himself and fellow billionaires but he is saying he will cut government services to the lowest paid (already has) to cut debt.
Again time will tell, we can only go on what we can derive from hindsight and really the U.S is in a mess, the last lot did very little.
So someone else is getting a go, to constantly attack everything someone does even before it is implemented is non sensical bordering on unhinged.
let's monitor and discuss how it goes, rather than just make random sound grabs.
Wealth distribution in the U.S isn't a new issue, it has been around for a very long time and the lack of addressing it isn't party specific.
Trying to stop the slide of the countries manufacturing is at least a new approach, let's see how it goes, it wont be easy but the alternative really isn't very good for the poor either.
There's a reason third world countries don't have welfare.
 
Welcome to left wing economics
The wealth will be distributed, well the remaining 1% will the rest the bankers and wealthy will keep!
 

Its not unhinged or sound bites its what's happening, how will attacking trans gender people help the economic out comes for middle incomes, that's what Trump is doing ahead of all else that's his priorities by his actions.

How will sacking inspector general’s help produce fairer economic outcomes? It wont but it will stop investigations into Musk... see the connection in priorities?
 
Its not unhinged or sound bites its what's happening, how will attacking trans gender people help the economic out comes for middle incomes, that's what Trump is doing ahead of all else that's his priorities by his actions
There you go again, I have been talking about re invigorating manufacturing to try to slow the de industrialisation of the country and the loss of manufacturing.
First you brought in the disparity of wealth in the U.S and now you are bring in the trans gender issues, what about actually debating the outcome of not trying to challenge China's manufacturing dominance?
If the U.S end up like us and like the way Germany is going, there wont be any money for any of the social causes, will there?
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How will sacking inspector general’s help produce fairer economic outcomes? It wont but it will stop investigations into Musk... see the connection in priorities?
Again what has that got to do with the issue of reversing the manufacturing decline and the trade imbalance?

Like I said it is unhinged, you run off on tangents about social issues, when the discussion was about the financial decline and how to slow it.

The Western Worlds social issues will become far worse, if Trump is unsuccessful IMO.
China don't have a great track record on human rights from memory and if they end up being the only place on the planet that manufactures, everyone can be held to ransom.
 

From memory manufacturing had already taken off under Biden, US productivity is sky high again none of it goes to the middle class, Trump is threatening tariffs... who going to pay for the tariffs SP?
 
From memory manufacturing had already taken off under Biden, US productivity is sky high again none of it goes to the middle class, Trump is threatening tariffs... who going to pay for the tariffs SP?
Manufacturing in the U.S is going the same way as all western countries, if you hadn't noticed.

The tariffs were introduced by Trump last time he was in office, if your memory serves you correctly and Biden didn't remove them and he didn't do much else, which is the reason Trump is back in office with a huge swing.

As for who pays the tariffs, those consumers that purchase Chinese or overseas made gear over U.S made gear, I would have thought you would have been able to work that out.
 
Biden is the one investing lets see what Trump does.

 
Disconnect between productivity and wages guess who got the difference?

 
Biden is the one investing lets see what Trump does.

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The clean energy and EV wave, hows that working out? Latest info it seems to have hit shallow water.
As you say, let's see how it goes, it is a big problem with no easy answers.
Decoupling from China and other low cost economies wont be easy.
 
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Disconnect between productivity and wages guess who got the difference?

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Looks like the disconnect has been pretty linear since 1980, about the same time ours started.

The reality is Trump for all his lack of class still got in with a landslide, which would indicate that despite terrible media coverage, he was preferable over the alternative, that really sums up public sentiment.

Whether it was a good choice, or a bad one, remains to be seen.
 
So is China rich and Russia oligarchs. Those guys are entrenched. At least in the US you have a shot at wealth.
Trump is setting the conditions for both employment and opportunities.
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Renaming the Gulf of Mexico wont help.
I heard this was so they could drill or something. They made an agreement to not drill in the golf of Mexico. That's the rumour anyway. I only partly caught it.
 
All the unhinged leftist need to be removed from positions of influence. It's a cult like mentality that involved sabotaging anything Trump tried to achieve last term. I'd rather see merit based hiring.
 
Australia needs its own version of a Trump to cut wasteful red tape and spending, to get the cost of living down and encourage economic growth.

Red tape is proliferating because it is easy to come up with new rules—to protect against online scams or the warming of the planet—but very hard to get rid of them. From Buenos Aires and Delhi to London and Washington, politicians desperate for growth want to be rid of unnecessary bureaucratic hurdles. Done right, this could usher in greater freedom, faster growth, lower prices and new technology.
As our Briefing sets out, Americans spend a total of 12bn hours a year complying with federal rules. Mr Trump is right to take the sledgehammer to these layers of bureaucracy, but he risks causing the sort of chaos and suffering that would give deregulation a bad name. The question, for him and others, is how to make reforms bold enough to count but coherent enough to succeed.

 
All the unhinged leftist need to be removed from positions of influence. It's a cult like mentality that involved sabotaging anything Trump tried to achieve last term. I'd rather see merit based hiring.

Its the US there are no leftests in positions of influence. Trump is going after critics.
 
Its the US there are no leftests in positions of influence. Trump is going after critics.
There are those that were old school liberals, free speech, human rights types. Trump is going after wokies. We have a large group entrenched in Australia as well that need to be burned out.

They will destroy society through incompetence and ideology.
 
Disconnect between productivity and wages guess who got the difference?
That chart looks awfully like what I'd expect to see in a service economy.

The very nature of basic services is they create little value, are highly competitive and rely upon trickle down economics from those with money.

I remember people warning of this outcome decades ago. At the time I wasn't sure, too young to get my mind around it really, but in hindsight they were spot on. Find anywhere that's wealthy and its either based on finance or otherwise bringing money from outside or it's based on some form of primary or secondary industry, it's not based on services.
 
There are those that were old school liberals, free speech, human rights types.
Which I think most, including Trump supporters, would have no problem with.

They might disagree on the importance of it, but there aren't too many who'll say that free speech, human rights, equality etc are bad things as such.
 
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