Dump Trump

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This isn't a bad idea. It's not really constructive conversation. It's been years of bs since 2016.

Agree.

 

[moXJO]

I'm currently reading the biography of Nancy Wake. Nancy was an Australian journalist who lived in France in the 30's and ended up married to a wealthy French industrialist. She was a clear sighted no nonsense women who saw at first hand the brutality of the Hitler/Mussolini/Franco regimes. In particular she visited Austria and Germany in the 30's and was horrified by the hero worship of Hitler and the behaviour of Nazi paramilitary groups terrorising Jews. She despised it all.

When war came Nancy stayed and ended up becoming a key leader in the French Resistance. She won the respect of some pretty tough resistance fighters and did what had to be done to fight the Nazi tyranny. Her husband Henri was tortured and killed by the Gestapo for his efforts in the resistance. The Gestapo called her The White Mouse.

I'm writing this as an introduction to the testimony of the leader of the paramilitary group that stormed the Capitol on January 6th at the direction of Donald Trump. Let's get real please. Trump attempted to overthrow the election results of 2020. Jason Van Tantenhove final words were.

Van Tatenhove said: “I do fear for this next election cycle because who knows what that might bring.”

Calling Trump “a president willing to try to whip up civil war amongst his followers using lies and deceit and snake oil, regardless of the human impact”, Van Tatenhove asked: “What else is he going to do if he gets elected again? All bets are off at that point and that’s a scary notion.

“I have three daughters. I have a granddaughter. And I fear for the world that they will inherit if we do not start holding these people to account.”

Trump sought to mount ‘armed revolution’, militia ex-spokesman says​

Witness Jason van Tatenhove testifies at seventh public hearing, ‘This could have been the spark that started a new civil war’
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Jason Van Tatenhove, the ex-spokesman for the Oath Keepers, is sworn in before the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack, at the seventh public hearing on Tuesday. Photograph: Ken Cedeno/UPI/REX/Shutterstock

Martin Pengelly

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In powerful testimony to the House January 6 committee, a former spokesperson for the Oath Keepers militia told Americans to “quit mincing words and just talk about truths”, and to recognise that Donald Trump attempted to mount “an armed revolution” in order to stay in power.
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“People died that day,” Jason van Tatenhove said. “Law enforcement officers died, there was a gallows set up in front of the Capitol. This could have been the spark that started a new civil war, and no one would have won there. That would have been good for no one.”

Van Tatenhove appeared at a Tuesday hearing in Washington alongside Stephen Ayres, a former Trump supporter from Ohio who pleaded guilty to a misdemeanour charge related to entering the Capitol on 6 January 2021.

Both men discussed former allegiances and lessons learned after Congress was stormed by a mob that Trump told to “fight like hell” in service of his lie that his defeat by Joe Biden was the result of electoral fraud.

Ayres said his realisation Trump lied was akin to having “horse blinders” removed. He also spoke about what his conviction had cost him.

Van Tatenhove described efforts by Stewart Rhodes – the Oath Keepers leader now charged with seditious conspiracy – to hone his public image.

Rhodes “was always looking for ways to legitimise what he was doing,” Van Tatenhove said, “wrapping it in the trappings of, ‘It’s not a militia, it’s a community preparedness team … an educational outreach group, it’s a veteran support group.’

“But again, we’ve got to stop with this dishonesty and the mincing of words and just call things for what they are. You know it, he’s a militia leader. He had these grand visions of being a paramilitary leader.”

Members of the Oath Keepers provided security to Trump allies around January 6 and entered the Capitol.

A bipartisan Senate committee linked seven deaths to the riot, which failed to stop certification of Biden’s win. That toll included police officers who killed themselves after the riot, a total that has since grown by two.

Van Tatenhove said: “The fact the president was communicating whether directly or indirectly … kind of gave [Rhodes] the nod, and all I can do to thank the gods that things did not go any worse.”

Asked what the Oath Keepers saw in Trump, Van Tatenhove said: “They saw a path forward that would have legitimacy. They saw an opportunity … to become a powerful paramilitary force.”

Asked if Rhodes discussed violence against elected leaders, Van Tatenhove gave a chilling answer.

“That went back from the very beginning of my tenure,” he said, of an association which began around a standoff with federal forces in 2014. “One of the first assignments that he brought to me … as a graphic artist … was to create a deck of cards.

“You may remember the conflict in the Middle East where our own military created a deck of cards, a who’s who of key players on the other side they wanted to take out.

“And Stuart was very intrigued by that notion and influenced by it, I think, and he wanted me to create a deck of cards that would include different politicians, judges, up to Hillary Clinton as the Queen of Hearts.

“This is a project that I refused to do. But from the very start, we saw that there was always the push for military training, including courses in that community that went over explosives training. So yeah, it all falls in line.”

Van Tatenhove said his experience showed the US had “gotten exceedingly lucky that more bloodshed did not happen because the potential has been there from the start.

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“A loss of life as tragic as that we saw on January 6, the potential was so much more. We have to look at the iconic images of that day, with the gallows set up for Mike Pence, for the vice-president of the United States.”

Trump sought to mount ‘armed revolution’, militia ex-spokesman says

Witness Jason van Tatenhove testifies at seventh public hearing, ‘This could have been the spark that started a new civil war’

www.theguardian.com

Jason Van Tatenhove left oath keepers in 2016?

Why is he there?

I thought a cop died from natural causes not from violence so he lied or was misleading.

 

[basilio]

Background on Jason Van Tatenhove. He offered an insiders perspective on Oath Keepers.
He left them in 2016 because he was concerned at their direction and loss of reality.

This Coloradan was a “propagandist” for the Oath Keepers. Now he’s speaking out against the extremist militia tied to Jan. 6. ​

Jason Van Tatenhove has been asked to speak to the Congressional investigation into the Capitol attack​

AAron Ontiveroz, The Denver Post
Jason Van Tatenhove poses for a portrait at his home in Estes Park on Wednesday, Feb. 16, 2022. Van Tatenhove spoke about his time as national media director for the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist militia, which he left several years ago.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/02/27/oath-keepers-colorado-jason-van-tatenhove/

 

[basilio]

Deaths and cause of deaths that arose from the Jan 6th capitol riots

How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol resulted in "almost 10 dead." Four people died that day, and five others -- all law enforcement officers -- died days, weeks and even months later. Here we lay out what is publicly known about the circumstances surrounding those...

www.factcheck.org

 

[moXJO]

Deaths and cause of deaths that arose from the Jan 6th capitol riots

How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol resulted in "almost 10 dead." Four people died that day, and five others -- all law enforcement officers -- died days, weeks and even months later. Here we lay out what is publicly known about the circumstances surrounding those...

www.factcheck.org

4 trumpers died jan 6th.

Jason Van Tatenhove according to him left in 2016. Did anyone dig back to 2016 to see the real reasoning?
Why is he dealing knowledge for jan 6 and the oathkeepers when he wasn't part of the group for years?

 

[3 hound]

4 trumpers died jan 6th.

Jason Van Tatenhove according to him left in 2016. Did anyone dig back to 2016 to see the real reasoning?
Why is he dealing knowledge for jan 6 and the oathkeepers when he wasn't part of the group for years?

Didn't you watch the movie inception?

Just because he had nothing to do with it doesn't mean he can't use the mysterious powers of inception to inception himself into a future event that didn't happen. He actually quotes stuff about civil war in his testimony from 2014 that has nothing to do with trump which the Dems are using as bombshell testimony as evidence against events in ,Jan 6...it's safe desperation funded by tax payers instead of real work ....but entertaining.

 

[3 hound]

I thought a cop died from natural causes not from violence so he lied or was misleading.

The unfortunate death of this man was unrelated to the riots and of natural causes, only the fake news organisations have desperately tried to turn it into something, the police and courts haven't.

 

[moXJO]

Didn't you watch the movie inception?

Just because he had nothing to do with it doesn't mean he can't use the mysterious powers of inception to inception himself into a future event that didn't happen. He actually quotes stuff about civil war in his testimony from 2014 that has nothing to do with trump which the Dems are using as bombshell testimony as evidence against events in ,Jan 6...it's safe desperation funded by tax payers instead of real work ....but entertaining.

Democrats are blame shifting. They spent months fuelling anger and riots. We had donors funding groups that were destroying cities. We had Republican supporters politically targeted. The anger and hate had been brewing for years.

Trump was a much smaller part of a larger political hate machine.
Dems midterm angling between Jan 6 and roe.

 

[basilio]

Latest Jan 6th hearings.

January 6 committee hearing reveals what Donald Trump was doing — and not doing — during the Capitol riot​

By Joanna Robin in Washington DC and Rebecca Armitage
Posted 35m ago35 minutes ago

The committee claims that Donald Trump spent much of the Capitol riot watching events unfold on TV from his dining room. (AP: Manuel Balce Ceneta)
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The first round of January 6 hearings may have ended, but the committee investigating the Capitol riot seems to be just getting started.
Over seven hearings, the panel has weaved its shocking findings with surprise witness testimony, building towards the series finale, dubbed the "187 Minutes Hearing" by committee aides.

The prime-time hearing gave the most detailed account yet of what former president Donald Trump did — and didn't do — for more than three hours while his supporters tried to violently stop the transfer of power.

"He lied, he bullied, he betrayed his oath. He tried to destroy our democratic institutions," said committee chair Bennie Thompson, who recently tested positive for COVID-19, via video.

"And then he stopped for 187 minutes on January 6.

"He could not be moved to rise from the dining room table and walk the few steps down the White House hallway into the press briefing room, where cameras were anxiously and desperately waiting to carry his message to the armed and violent mob."

The final hearing, scheduled for a prime-time broadcast slot, was packed with reporters and onlookers. (ABC News: Cameron Schwarz )
At 1.10pm, Mr Trump finished his speech at the White House Ellipse, while his then-vice-president was already performing his constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020 election.

The first wave of rioters had already breached the barriers surrounding the Capitol.

Despite pleas "from nearly everyone", including White House staff, his family and members of US Congress, he refused to act until 4.17pm when he tweeted a video, calling on them to leave.

Here's what we learned.

'He could not be moved to rise from the dining room table': Explosive hearing gives a glimpse into Trump's inaction on Jan 6

Over seven hearings, the January 6 committee has weaved its shocking findings with surprise witness testimony, building towards the series finale, dubbed the "187 Minutes Hearing". Here's what we learned.

www.abc.net.au

 

[basilio]

Couldn't have said it any better.

Dick Cheney attacks Donald Trump as ‘greatest threat to our republic’​

Vice-president under George W Bush denounces, in campaign ad for daughter Liz, ‘coward … who lost his election, and lost big’

Dick Cheney with George W Bush in 2008. Cheney said in the ad: ‘He is a coward. A real man wouldn’t lie to his supporters.’ Photograph: Evan Vucci/AP

Lauren Aratani in New York
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Dick Cheney has branded Donald Trump the greatest “threat to our republic”, in a new campaign ad for his daughter, Liz Cheney, who is running for re-election in Wyoming.

“In our nation’s 236-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” said Cheney, who served as vice-president for two terms under George W Bush.


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Cheney said: “He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him.

“He is a coward. A real man wouldn’t lie to his supporters. He lost his election, and he lost big. I know it, he knows it, and deep down I think most Republicans know it.”

Cheney went on to speak about how proud he was of his daughter “for standing up to the truth, doing what’s right, honoring her oath to the constitution when so many in our party are too scared to do so”.

The one-minute ad featured the elder Cheney’s sharpest public attacks against Trump to date. Best known as the most powerful vice-president in American history, and a major figure in leading the US to war in Iraq, he has taken to defending his daughter in her fight against Trump.

“There’s nothing more important she will ever do than lead the effort to make sure Donald Trump is never near the Oval Office. And she will succeed,” he said in the ad.

Dick Cheney attacks Donald Trump as ‘greatest threat to our republic’

Vice-president under George W Bush denounces, in campaign ad for daughter Liz, ‘coward … who lost his election, and lost big’

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

Another "frank and fearless response" to the attacks on Congress on January 6th 2021

Capitol attack officer Fanone hits out at ‘weasel’ McCarthy in startling interview​

Michael Fanone makes candid and profane remarks about Republicans in Rolling Stone interview as he promotes memoir

Michael Fanone testifies before the House January 6 committee. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Martin Pengelly in New York

@MartinPengelly
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In an extraordinarily candid and profane interview with Rolling Stone, Michael Fanone – the former Washington police officer who was seriously hurt at the US Capitol during the January 6 attack – called the Republican House leader, potentially the next speaker, a “xucking weasel hitch”.


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Fanone said past Republican giants would be unimpressed with Kevin McCarthy.

“I think at night, when the lights are turned off, Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan have some pretty choice words to say about the fact that they have to hang on Kevin McCarthy’s wall,” Fanone said.

“They did some xucking above-average things. And they’ve got to adorn the wall of this xucking weasel hitch named Kevin McCarthy, with his fake xucking spray-on tan, whose xucking claim to fame, at least in my eyes, is the fact that he amassed a collection of Donald Trump’s favorite-flavored Starburst, put them in a Mason jar, and presented them to xucking Donald Trump.

“What the xuck, dude?”

Fanone’s remarks came as he promoted his memoir, Hold the Line, which will be published next week.

The title refers to Fanone’s actions on 6 January 2021, when he, a DC Metropolitan officer, answered calls from Capitol police and rushed to confront Trump supporters storming Congress in an attempt to stop certification of the outgoing president’s defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

Fanone suffered a heart attack and a traumatic brain injury. He has since left the police and emerged, with other officers, as a key witness in hearings held by the House January 6 committee. The riot has been linked to nine deaths, including suicides among law enforcement officers. More than 900 rioters have been charged, some with seditious conspiracy.

Capitol attack officer Fanone hits out at ‘weasel’ McCarthy in startling interview

Michael Fanone makes candid and profane remarks about Republicans in Rolling Stone interview as he promotes memoir

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

Latest Jan 6th Committee presentation wraps up the entirety of the efforts by the Trump inspired mob to stop Congress from declaring Biden the new President.

Excellent story and live video.

Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot​

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

New video shows Pelosi and Schumer scrambling to take charge in Capitol attack - video

Guardian staff and agencies
Fri 14 Oct 2022 02.01 BSTLast modified on Fri 14 Oct 2022 02.51 BST


New footage of the January 6 riots at the US Capitol shows House speaker Nancy Pelosi calmly trying to take charge of the situation as she sheltered at Fort McNair, two miles south of the Capitol.

“There has to be some way,” she told colleagues, “we can maintain the sense that people have that there is some security or some confidence that government can function and that you can elect the president of the United States.”

Then an unidentified voice interjected with alarming news: lawmakers on the House floor had begun putting on teargas masks in preparation for a breach. Pelosi asked the woman to repeat what she said.


Capitol attack panel votes to subpoena Trump – ‘the central cause of January 6’

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“Do you believe this?” Pelosi said to another Democratic leader, Jim Clyburn of South Carolina.

The footage was from about 2.45pm, when rioters had already disrupted the planned certification of the 2020 presidential election results. It would be hours before the building was secure.

Never-before-seen video footage played Thursday by the House of Representatives select committee investigating last year’s riot shows how Pelosi and other leaders, including Republican allies of Donald Trump, responded to the insurrection.

The recordings offer a rare glimpse into the real-time reactions of the most powerful members of Congress as they scrambled to drum up support from all parts of the government, including from agencies seemingly ill prepared for the chaos, and vented anger over a president whose conduct they felt had endangered their lives.

‘Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

www.theguardian.com

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Latest Jan 6th Committee presentation wraps up the entirety of the efforts by the Trump inspired mob to stop Congress from declaring Biden the new President.

Excellent story and live video.

Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot​

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

New video shows Pelosi and Schumer scrambling to take charge in Capitol attack - video

Guardian staff and agencies
Fri 14 Oct 2022 02.01 BSTLast modified on Fri 14 Oct 2022 02.51 BST


New footage of the January 6 riots at the US Capitol shows House speaker Nancy Pelosi calmly trying to take charge of the situation as she sheltered at Fort McNair, two miles south of the Capitol.

“There has to be some way,” she told colleagues, “we can maintain the sense that people have that there is some security or some confidence that government can function and that you can elect the president of the United States.”

Then an unidentified voice interjected with alarming news: lawmakers on the House floor had begun putting on teargas masks in preparation for a breach. Pelosi asked the woman to repeat what she said.
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“Do you believe this?” Pelosi said to another Democratic leader, Jim Clyburn of South Carolina.

The footage was from about 2.45pm, when rioters had already disrupted the planned certification of the 2020 presidential election results. It would be hours before the building was secure.

Never-before-seen video footage played Thursday by the House of Representatives select committee investigating last year’s riot shows how Pelosi and other leaders, including Republican allies of Donald Trump, responded to the insurrection.

The recordings offer a rare glimpse into the real-time reactions of the most powerful members of Congress as they scrambled to drum up support from all parts of the government, including from agencies seemingly ill prepared for the chaos, and vented anger over a president whose conduct they felt had endangered their lives.

‘Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

www.theguardian.com

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Frightening stuff. Trump has been summoned but probably won't attend.

We know who the ringleader is , but he will get away with it.

 

[basilio]

Frightening stuff. Trump has been summoned but probably won't attend.

We know who the ringleader is , but he will get away with it.

Perhaps.. perhaps not.
The purpose of the January 6th Committee was to establish what had happened outside and inside Congresson that date, and then identify the forces that lead to the riot, the participants and the leaders.

The final public presentation of the Committee does a great summary. In effect it lays out the evidence for formally charging Donald Trump with responsibility for this attempt to undermine the 2020 election result.

January 6 panel’s case against Trump lays out roadmap for prosecution​

Sam Levine in New York
Devastating testimony, nearly all from Republicans, will have given attorney general Merrick Garland plenty of food for thought

A video of Donald Trump is played during a hearing by the House select committee to investigate the January 6 attack on the US Capitol. Photograph: Alex Wong/EPA

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After more than a year of work that consisted of interviewing 1,000-plus witnesses and reviewing hundreds of thousands of documents, the committee investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol chose a simple message for its final public hearing: Donald Trump was singularly responsible for the attack.

January 6 hearing takeaways: Trump knew he lost and now faces subpoena
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Since its first hearing in June, the committee’s work has been aimed at two audiences. One of those has been the broad American public. Tactfully using video, the committee has told a disciplined, clear story of what happened on January 6, and the days leading up to it, filled with jaw-dropping soundbites from Trump’s closest aides.

But the committee’s public coda on Thursday appeared more directed at its second audience: an audience of one, the US attorney general, Merrick Garland.

Garland will ultimately decide whether to bring criminal charges against Trump over January 6, and the committee’s work, which has run parallel to the justice department’s investigation, has made a public case for bringing charges, attempting to bring along public support for doing so.

Working chronologically from months before election day until January 6, each of the panel’s nine members on Thursday laid out the signposts of what a criminal case against the former US president could look like.

Pointing to volumes of evidence, they explained how Trump had decided months before election day that he won, regardless of the actual result. When his closest aides informed him that he lost, Trump intentionally chose not to concede. And even though he knew there was the threat of violence at the US Capitol on January 6, Trump fomented it anyway.

“None of this would have happened without him. He was personally and substantially involved in all of it,” Liz Cheney, the Republican representative who serves as the panel’s vice-chair, said in her opening remarks.

Thursday’s hearing continued much of the strategy successfully deployed in previous hearings. It heavily featured video depositions and there were dramatic reveals. There was new, stunning, behind-the-scenes footage of Nancy Pelosi and top congressional leaders as they pleaded for security assistance on January 6.

The panel also presented new evidence it obtained from the Secret Service showing the White House was warned of the potential for violence on January 6. And there was a last-minute dramatic twist as the committee voted 9-0 to subpoena Trump.

And just like previous hearings, nearly all of the testimony the committee presented on Thursday came from Republicans who were part of Trump’s inner circle.

There was video from Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager, who advised the president against declaring victory while votes were being counted.

There was Greg Jacobs, a top adviser to Mike Pence, who said they were aware Trump could turn on the vice-president on January 6.

And there was more devastating video of Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to the White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who told the committee how Trump fumed after the supreme court rebuffed his request to overturn the election.

“‘I don’t want people to know we lost, Mark. This is embarrassing. Figure it out. We need to figure it out. I don’t want people to know that we lost,” Trump told Meadows after the supreme court ruled against him, Hutchinson said.

That kind of testimony may be the committee’s most consequential legacy.

In getting top Republicans and Trump’s inner circle to publicly describe observations and conversations in the lead-up to January 6, the committee has blunted attacks that its work is a partisan exercise. It has created a record of some of the most powerful Republicans in the US government telling Trump that what he was doing was illegal. And the committee has slowly and meticulously isolated Trump, establishing his culpability, showing how he deliberately chose to ignore what those around him were telling him.

“When you look back at what has come out through this committee’s work, the most striking fact is that all this evidence comes almost entirely from Republicans,” Bennie Thompson, the committee chairman and a Mississippi Democrat, said in his opening statement.

That nonpartisan framing is an enormous gift to Garland and his justice department as it investigates and weighs bringing charges. It helps establish the case against Trump as an apolitical one, driven by the law. And even though Trump and other Republicans are likely to claim any charges are a political witch-hunt regardless, the voluminous testimony from top Republicans will help undercut that defense.

The committee will probably make public a final report later this year and decide whether to refer Trump and others to the justice department for potential criminal prosecution.

But regardless of its actions, the lie that Trump fomented after the 2020 election has taken deep hold across the United States. The 147 Republicans in the House who tried to overturn the election results have faced few consequences. Denying the results of the 2020 election has become orthodoxy in the Republican party. Candidates who have spread baseless conspiracy theories about voting machines and elections are now on the verge of winning offices with statewide election oversight in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan – all presidential battleground states.

Those developments have made the committee’s work all the more pressing.

“Our institutions only hold when men and women of good faith make them hold, regardless of the political cost. We have no guarantee that these men and women will be in place next time. Any future president inclined to attempt what Donald Trump did in 2020, has now learned not to install people who could stand in the way,” said Cheney, who lost a primary earlier this year because of her opposition to Trump.

“With every effort to excuse or justify the conduct of the former president, we chip away at the foundation of our republic. Indefensible conduct is defended, inexcusable conduct is excused. Without accountability, it all becomes normal and it will recur,” she added.

January 6 panel’s case against Trump lays out roadmap for prosecution

Devastating testimony, nearly all from Republicans, will have given attorney general Merrick Garland plenty of food for thought

www.theguardian.com

 

[SirRumpole]

But regardless of its actions, the lie that Trump fomented after the 2020 election has taken deep hold across the United States. The 147 Republicans in the House who tried to overturn the election results have faced few consequences. Denying the results of the 2020 election has become orthodoxy in the Republican party. Candidates who have spread baseless conspiracy theories about voting machines and elections are now on the verge of winning offices with statewide election oversight in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan – all presidential battleground states.

That's the problem. After all he's done a lot of people believe in him or don't believe the Democrats.

Trump may never run again , but he could run the country from the backrow.

 

[basilio]

That's the problem. After all he's done a lot of people believe in him or don't believe the Democrats.

Trump may never run again , but he could run the country from the backrow.

Which makes holding him accountable for his actions even more important.

 

[moXJO]

How convenient, a sham committee just before midterms.

 

[basilio]

How convenient, a sham committee just before midterms.

Out for an afternoon walk Mr Troll

 

[moXJO]

Out for an afternoon walk Mr Troll

Someone needs to kick-start general.

 

[basilio]

Someone needs to kick-start general.

Indeed.. And in some darker moments this morning I did contemplate a refresh of Trumps spectacular success (no other word for it) in creating a Republician Party where the overwhelming majority on candidates in the 2022 Mid terms supported his Big Lie on the rigged and stolen Presidential election. Goebbels must be green with envy at that success.

And just to refresh everyone on what we have missed why not recap the latest note of Trump unhinged at the height of his spitting power.

Trump’s Official Response to Jan. 6 Subpoena Is as Unhinged as His Truth Social Posts

The former president isn't taking kindly to the panel's vote to ask him to testify and provide documents related to his role in the riot at the Capitol

news.yahoo.com