The West has lost its freedom of speech

[wayneL]

Yep democracy.

So all can voice there views without censorship.

But that's not what we have. Only the extreme left can voice their views with impunity. Everyone from the moderate left to the right are censored on social media.

That's not really democracy.

 

[Knobby22]

So what actions would you propose?

 

[SirRumpole]

But that's not what we have. Only the extreme left can voice their views with impunity. Everyone from the moderate left to the right are censored on social media.

I doubt if that's the case on the Murdoch media, there is a choice of what bias suits you.

 

[qldfrog]

I doubt if that's the case on the Murdoch media, there is a choice of what bias suits you.

I recommend for your own instruction that you openhttps://www.news.com.au/
Which based on your belief is the mouthpiece of far right isnt it?
Crap we all agree...but if in a week you tell me that this is right propaganda, you need a serious check with a specialist.
It is as anti Trump quite anti scomo at time .aka when less popular..
This is just a pure mercantile site which will go wherever the majority/market goes.
I think maybe the Australian gives a more balanced view aka some right wing opinion otherwise most media outlets here are just "woke 2.0"
But seriously, just ipen that link in the coming days and have an objective look at political side of the few relevant articles...
And you will see a few bikini/bums pictures as well which can not hurt our old aging...bodies

 

[SirRumpole]

I recommend for your own instruction that you openhttps://www.news.com.au/
Which based on your belief is the mouthpiece of far right isnt it?
Crap we all agree...but if in a week you tell me that this is right propaganda, you need a serious check with a specialist.
It is as anti Trump quite anti scomo at time .aka when less popular..
This is just a pure mercantile site which will go wherever the majority/market goes.
I think maybe the Australian gives a more balanced view aka some right wing opinion otherwise most media outlets here are just "woke 2.0"
But seriously, just ipen that link in the coming days and have an objective look at political side of the few relevant articles...
And you will see a few bikini/bums pictures as well which can not hurt our old aging...bodies

If a "Right" publication us also anti Trump as you say, don't you think that there may be some truth in what they say ? If the Left and Right agree on something then it's more likely to be true. You may just have to admit that your view of Trump is at odds with reality.

 

[wayneL]

I recommend for your own instruction that you openhttps://www.news.com.au/
Which based on your belief is the mouthpiece of far right isnt it?
Crap we all agree...but if in a week you tell me that this is right propaganda, you need a serious check with a specialist.
It is as anti Trump quite anti scomo at time .aka when less popular..
This is just a pure mercantile site which will go wherever the majority/market goes.
I think maybe the Australian gives a more balanced view aka some right wing opinion otherwise most media outlets here are just "woke 2.0"
But seriously, just ipen that link in the coming days and have an objective look at political side of the few relevant articles...
And you will see a few bikini/bums pictures as well which can not hurt our old aging...bodies

Exactly, like I said somewhere else the murdochs are a tabloid organisation afflicted with Sandcastle syndrome.

Could not agree more!

 

[IFocus]

You can say what ever you like as long as its not hate speech etc, problem is you snowflakes get all up set if some one rightly criticises which is ......freedom of speech.

Mean while the right wing keep stripping back our real freedoms working conditions / rights to organise and you mob cheer them on it was from there Democracy formed it was not given, the irony

 

[basilio]

Yep democracy.

So all can voice there views without censorship.

But that's not what we have. Only the extreme left can voice their views with impunity. Everyone from the moderate left to the right are censored on social media.

That's not really democracy.

Big call Wayne. Just so we know were we are standing here could you please identify
1) Which extreme left organisations can voice their view with impunity on social media (or elsewhere) ?
2) Which moderate left to right organisations are censored or currently unfairly banned by Twitter or Face book or You Tube.?

Don't be too quick to respond .
Happy to let you do some research for a day or so.

Thanks

 

[dutchie]

There you go basilio. You obviously don't read much.

"CAMBRIDGE University has backed and promoted an academic who posted “White Lives Don’t Matter” after she was sent death threats.

Professor Priyamvada Gopal, a fellow of Churchill College, faced a 4,000-signature petition calling for her to be sacked over the tweet."

Not only can the left be racist but they actually get promoted.

"In 2018 Dr Noah Carl was sacked from his job at Cambridge after allegations emerged that he had allegedly published “racist” research and had collaborated with far-right extremists."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11957331/cambridge-uni-backs-academic-tweeted-white-lives-dont-matter/

 

[dutchie]

The University (Cambridge) defends the right of its academics to express their own lawful opinions which others might find controversial and deplores in the strongest terms abuse and personal attacks. These attacks are totally unacceptable and must cease.

Cambridge University has rescinded its offer of a visiting fellowship to Jordan Peterson, the self-styled “professor against political correctness”, after a backlash from faculty and students.

Cambridge University. Hypocrites.
"Express their own opinions as long as they are the same as ours...."

 

[dutchie]

Big call Wayne. Just so we know were we are standing here could you please identify
1) Which extreme left organisations can voice their view with impunity on social media (or elsewhere) ?
2) Which moderate left to right organisations are censored or currently unfairly banned by Twitter or Face book or You Tube.?

Don't be too quick to respond .
Happy to let you do some research for a day or so.

Thanks

Ho Hum. Boring and blinded.

 

[wayneL]

Big call Wayne. Just so we know were we are standing here could you please identify
1) Which extreme left organisations can voice their view with impunity on social media (or elsewhere) ?
2) Which moderate left to right organisations are censored or currently unfairly banned by Twitter or Face book or You Tube.?

Don't be too quick to respond .
Happy to let you do some research for a day or so.

Thanks

LMFAO, that's easy Bas

1/ Antifa, BLM, Ash "I'm literally a communist" Sarkar, Owen Jones and90% of Guardian writers, AOC and friends....

2/ Zero Hedge, Katie Hopkins, Karl Benjamin, Dave Rubin, Tommy, Milo, PewDeePie, McGuiness, Rose McGowan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, James Woods, Laura Loomer, Lyndsay Shepard, and even Graeme Lineham FFS.

And that's straight off the top of my head without even thinking about it.

LMFAO!!!

 

[dutchie]

LMFAO, that's easy Bas

1/ Antifa, BLM, Ash "I'm literally a communist" Sarkar, Owen Jones and90% of Guardian writers, AOC and friends....

2/ Zero Hedge, Katie Hopkins, Karl Benjamin, Dave Rubin, Tommy, Milo, PewDeePie, McGuiness, Rose McGowan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, James Woods, Laura Loomer, Lyndsay Shepard, and even Graeme Lineham FFS.

And that's straight off the top of my head without even thinking about it.

LMFAO!!!

Come on Wayne you know its 99.99% of Guardian writers (all employed by slave traders)

 

[basilio]

LMFAO, that's easy Bas

1/ Antifa, BLM, Ash "I'm literally a communist" Sarkar, Owen Jones and90% of Guardian writers, AOC and friends....

2/ Zero Hedge, Katie Hopkins, Karl Benjamin, Dave Rubin, Tommy, Milo, PewDeePie, McGuiness, Rose McGowan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, James Woods, Laura Loomer, Lyndsay Shepard, and even Graeme Lineham FFS.

And that's straight off the top of my head without even thinking about it.

LMFAO!!!

Fine Wayne. No need to think it about at all is there ?

You just moved the entire voices left of Tommy Robinson into the Extreme Left group and gave a free pass to some of the most egregious conspiracy runners and serial hatemongers on the planet.

All the very best with getting way from it all Wayne.

 

[wayneL]

Fine Wayne. No need to think it about at all is there ?

You just moved the entire voices left of Tommy Robinson into the Extreme Left group and gave a free pass to some of the most egregious conspiracy runners and serial hatemongers on the planet.

All the very best with getting way from it all Wayne.

You fool. You walked right into that one my friend.

Leaving aside the narrative of what Tommy Robinson is or isn't, because that is actually irrelevant here, your above comments exposes an astonishing and all too common toxic double standard from you people, and supports my point.

And that is exactly why I include him in this list.

over Twitter and Facebook the far left get away with all sorts of hateful conduct against people who support capitalism, conservativism, and especially white people. You will even turn around and eat you're own kind alive if they do not precisely follow the dogma, with the most hateful speech imaginable, often using the most disgusting racist terms on the planet, if these transgressors are poc... Dammit, and especially if they are white.

Need I go further than to mention the most recent example of JK Rowling a previous darling of the woke brigade, who has received the most hateful abuse I think I've ever seen.

All thought really sticking up for science, biology.

Ergo, your argument here is hilariously fallacious. As mentioned above it proves my point, but also highlights your ludicrous bias.

Well done, you have been hoist by your own petard and I am still LMFAO

 

[qldfrog]

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If a "Right" publication us also anti Trump as you say, don't you think that there may be some truth in what they say ? If the Left and Right agree on something then it's more likely to be true. You may just have to admit that your view of Trump is at odds with reality.

And what is my view of Trump?

 

[basilio]

Well done, you have been hoist by your own petard

There's a candidate for post of the year. Just for interest I'll continue to take the bait.
Lets take Wayne totally seriously as I assume he wants. What are other peoples views on his two statements.

1) The "extreme Left" looks like Antifa, BLM, Ash "I'm literally a communist" Sarkar, Owen Jones and 90% of Guardian writers, AOC and friends

2) Moderate left and right organisations (no extremists or exterminators of course..) unfairly censored look like Zero Hedge, Katie Hopkins, Karl Benjamin, Dave Rubin, Tommy, Milo, PewDeePie, McGuiness, Rose McGowan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, James Woods, Laura Loomer, Lyndsay Shepard, and even Graeme Lineham FFS

 

[qldfrog]

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And what is my view of Trump?

Give you a clue: better than anything else on offer there and the first to break the status quo and endless growth of china and destruction of the west, the first one to actually disengage from decades and decades of foreign countries bombings.
And someone outside the "deep-seated"/ complaisant powers in charge screwing citizens all over the world.
If you can find me a well spoken, independent minded other American with a chance to win presidency and support individual responsability, not communism, i will support him in a sec.
But all others are just sold to interests which are far from either the US or even the west.
Sanders in non communist version, i i would appreciate too

 

[wayneL]

@basilio Oh this is going to be good. I am going to run a book on who lines up with you, Komrade.

Odds are really short though, mate. It's London to a brick I'm afraid.

ASF to be Twitterised.

 

[basilio]

Oh this is going to be good. I am going to run a book on who lines up with you, Komrade.

Odds are really short though, mate. It's London to a brick I'm afraid.

You totally right Wayne. On this forum to this time I would agree that you will win hands down.

I'm not looking to "win". I just want to see where the land lies here. I want to how many people will support your perception of what looks like extreme left and what you classify as moderate right.