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The West has lost its freedom of speech

Excellent as usual. :)
A perfect description of the current administration and its White Supremacists followers
See... I told you we are basically about the same thing. Time to fence these normie centrists out.
 
John Cleese says it all about political correctness.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06...ams-bbc-uktv-germans-episode-removal/12352098

The thing that gets me is that this episode was broadcast in 1975 and it's only now that people complained about it ? Why haven't the West Indian (and Indian) cricket teams been outraged for 45 years and refused to tour England ?

The outrage stirred up seems confected and for the purposes that allow a few radicals to remain in the public eye and get credibility for little reason.
 
Excellent as usual. :)
A perfect description of the current administration and its White Supremacists followers
Point of order, bas.

White supremacy is more the purview of the Democratic party, from whence the KKK derived most of their membership... and just to be clear, I didn't say the Democratic Party started the KKK.
 
John Cleese says it all about political correctness.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06...ams-bbc-uktv-germans-episode-removal/12352098

The thing that gets me is that this episode was broadcast in 1975 and it's only now that people complained about it ? Why haven't the West Indian (and Indian) cricket teams been outraged for 45 years and refused to tour England ?

The outrage stirred up seems confected and for the purposes that allow a few radicals to remain in the public eye and get credibility for little reason.
And the PC police will say he is an angry white boomer to nullify any commonsense.
 
Winston Churchill was such a good Prime Minister that the British voted him in on two separate occasions.
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He was PM for about 8 1/2 years. He defeated the racists trying to take over Europe (and the world).
 
Winston Churchill was such a good Prime Minister that the British voted him in on two separate occasions.
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He was PM for about 8 1/2 years. He defeated the racists trying to take over Europe (and the world).
They don't like Churchill because he was an imperialist: ironically if it wasn't for Churchill; Britain would have surrendered to Germany, Hitler and Stalin would have maintained their alliance, and the Americans may never had developed the atomic bomb before the Germans. Churchill truely is the man who saved Western Civilisation.
 
If you are ever accused, especially businesses, of not being woke enough then don't submit to their BS.
If you do, they will only expand their demands for further wokeness. It will never be enough.
 
isn't this the whole reason of the hate? he saved the West. We all know that this crowd only want to flee this inequality hell to move to the African and middle east paradises.I am ok with that.I would happily use my taxes for this

These people are myopic. If it wasn't for Churchill, Hitler's chances of success would have been greatly increased. Dare-I-say that the Germans would have developed the atomic bomb before the Americans, based on the fact that Germany wouldn't have fought the Soviets and Britain would have surrendered allowing more of their German talent to focus on nuclear advancement rather than fight on their front lines.

Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews, homosexuals and blacks; Churchill stood up to Hitler, and these idiots today desecrate his statue.
 
These people are myopic. If it wasn't for Churchill, Hitler's chances of success would have been greatly increased. Dare-I-say that the Germans would have developed the atomic bomb before the Americans, based on the fact that Germany wouldn't have fought the Soviets and Britain would have surrendered allowing more of their German talent to focus on nuclear advancement rather than fight on their front lines.

Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews, homosexuals and blacks; Churchill stood up to Hitler, and these idiots today desecrate his statue.
Agree, but you try to analyse, put some thoughts here
He was male white representative of an empire, that is enough to be evil
 
Agree, but you try to analyse, put some thoughts here
He was male white representative of an empire, that is enough to be evil

That's true. There is no real intellectual depth that supports and/or justifies their behaviour.

I think the vast majority of these anarchists are just looking for an excuse to engage in rioting, looting, vandalism and/or violence. Violent protest and the destruction of private and public property isn't going to get people to listen to their grievances.
 
First they came for your statues (and State names names lol) and everyone cheered, then they came for anyone not woke enough and everyone cheered, then they came for you and there was no one to cheer.
 
You have to wonder....
A group of right wing protesters decided to "protect" a statue of George Elliot AKA Mary Anne Evans. She was a great Victorian novelist and, incidentally, a public supporter of the anti-slavery movement.

So did these people have any idea of who she was and her history when they decided she needed their protection ? :speechless:
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Defenders of a George Eliot statue had no idea what they were doing and I’m here for it.
https://lithub.com/defenders-of-a-g...idea-what-they-were-doing-and-im-here-for-it/
 
If someone supports freedom of expression then by its very nature they have no need to know what message someone wishes to express, only that they wish to express it. :2twocents

Up to a point.

Should we support "hate" speech against a certain group of otherwise peaceful people on the grounds that it represents freedom of speech ?

It's a fine line I would say, but in the interests of public safety and an orderly society there has to be some limit, and it's the job of an elected government to decide what those limits are.
 
It's a fine line I would say, but in the interests of public safety and an orderly society there has to be some limit, and it's the job of an elected government to decide what those limits are.

Indeed. We have democratically elected governments to make such rules and if it's legal well then you're entitled to do it. :2twocents
 
I must admit that Churchill was not the nicest of people but he had a good war.

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Everyone, especially the great people such as Churchill, are a mosaic of oxymorons and contradictions.

Churchill's role in the war has me forgiving all of the contradictions... And though he was castigated for it and suffered electorally, he was damn well right about the Soviets and the iron curtain.

I have no doubt that he would have been a difficult man to like, if one knew him personally, but on the national level his oratories rank among the greatest of all time.

As far as other figures are concerned, they were men and women are their time and their contribution to society is the reason they are remembered via their statue.

Judging these people by the current aberration of woke values is just plain wrong.
 
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