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The Middle East and Western Asia: Bit of a hot spot?

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Just that looking at the price action here, it seems to be nothing more than rumour or a false alarm...

...at present.

The situation would appear to be a tinderbox however.
 
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From action FX...


 
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As in the school yard...PUSH comes to SHOVE.

Does this not prove that age DOES NOT bring wisdom...most thickheads are thick all their lives.
 
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Wow,

It seems that some don't see Iran in a bad light on their kidnapping.

Why is that ?

Bob.
 
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Why is that....the average punter,like myself,does not know the facts and motivations of what happened.
Anything that PM Blair says has to be regarded with scepticism after his performance trying to sell WMD's
Bush threatened any Iranian found in Iraq with dire consequences...pretty rich when foreign troops roam at will.
The Americans are holding Iranians in Iraq at the moment...without trial etc.
Are we to be manipulated by media reports ?
One thing that I do know is that we are all judged by our past actions and performances....the same judgements do not seem to be made in situations like this.
I do not know what happened,or what games are being played...so why get concerned ?
 
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This from the respected journalist Sey Hersh (who broke the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, and the Abu Gharib prison scandal in Iraq). He is not often wrong, and for an up to date account, check out this link below from the March 2007 issue of New Yorker magazine. Its a long read but well worth it.

Hmmmm

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh

Cheers
Brad
 
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I'm stocking up on food.

Israeli News Service:

Likud members: Bomb Iran

Report: U.S. planning Iran strike
Looks like more than sabre rattling now doesn't it. The worst step would be Israel getting involved in this. It would bring in the rest of the Middle East, and possibly even unite the Sunni and Shiites to fight against the common enemy. Seems unlikely to me but a possibility. Perhaps it could just remain a US/Israel/NATO? v Shiite conflict. Whatever the case, if Israel get involved, disaster.
 
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Something is up.

There was a rumour floating around about an April 6 strike (which makes it highly unlikely, but I wonder)

My nightmare scenario: A "terrorist" attack in USA or UK, immediate counter attack against Iran (though they will have nothing to do with it) and martial law installed in those countries... possibly Australia too.

I hope I'm waaaaay off.
 
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This from the respected journalist Sey Hersh . Hmmmm
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh Cheers, Brad
intersting stuff thanks BradK, wayne, kennas
sheesh didnt read the lot, but .. confusion reigns supreme.
Khamenei, now there's a voice from the past.
As I recall Bush is a good mate of the Saudis, so that at least seems to be consistent (and probably a polarising influence / rallying cry for Khamenei followers). But .. so much for the much touted diplomatic option in Iran. It was never a goer, was it. Bush probably knew that when he implied "we'll try the carrot, but if that doesn't work, we still have plenty of sticks")

PS If USA takes on Iran, they won't have any friends amongst the (non-terrorist) Iraqi Shiites either - and the terrorist Sunnis there win - like, they won't have any friends in that region period. (you wouldn't think). What was that someone said ? - home before Xmas ?. which Xmas?
 
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Paper Tiger (UN) statement out:

 
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Paper Tiger (UN) statement out

Kennas,

arguably useful as a componont of the historical record leading up to any action showing global (?) disapproval of Iran and her behaviour (although it is only the security council with 15 member states, including several smaller countries susceptible to sway ... if their vote is needed - or needed to be gained (report recently showed how when african states served on the council, for 2 year periods, the foreign aid they received per year during that 2 year period was more than other years)

and further useful as progressing the case for significant security council action (such as a security council resolution authorising amongst other things the use of force, which would legalise and therefore further legitimise the war - in an eye of the beholder way)

cheers
 
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I think this has gone on far to long now, Iran is making the United kingdom look like fools, the problem is that life in a country like the UK is far more valuable than it is to Islamofascist controlled country Iran.

If these Sailors where Americans im almost certain that 1/ it wouldnt of happened in the first place 2/ We would be in the Midst of war right now.

The thing that worrys me is that Iran is too confident, its like they have a card up there sleeve(already developed ICBM or even something crude perhaps?)
 
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The leader might be smarter than S. Hussein.Maybe a well educated mule this one.
 
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Happytown, really appreciate your knowledge of international law etc.
On the subject of
a) the impartiality of the UN, you make the point that delegates can be bought
b) I posted elsewhere this quote
John Bolton (USA's UN delegate) : "there is no such thing as the United Nations, just a community that can be lead by the only real power that counts, USA".
(not suggesting now that anyone listens to this - bludy long, 40 min, and slightly off topic for this thread - but I post it as a source of this quote nonetheless - found it on ABC Poetica ) http://www.abc.net.au/rn/poetica/stories/2007/1837933.htm "What I Heard About Iraq'
c) then Iran (and Palestine and Bin Laden and others) have the cheek to say we are trying to dominate the rules of the game ?

Would it be fair to say that the problems of the world would seem to start with "entrenched injustice" ?? I just wonder what the moral Presidents of the past (Lincoln etc) would have said.

PS even with the doubtful independence of the votes in the UN, the US still couldn't get them to agree to go into Iraq
 
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The USS Nimitz aircraft carrier battle group will sail Monday for the Persian Gulf.

They says its to releive the carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower, but Three carrier groups in the gulf makes it look like game on is close to me.


 
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Just some of the headlines this am:

Iran 'fears' US attack in summer
Germany's Merkel Calls On Iran To Release UK Sailors
Bush Calls On Iran To Release 15 UK Sailors, Marines
Bush enters crisis over UK captives
Ahmadinejad:World Powers 'Arrogant' For Failing To Apologize
Iran Letter To IAEA: Withholding Nuclear Information

GWB putting his nose into this is concerning.
Merkel and the EU should bring some sence of reason.
 
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GWB putting his nose into this is concerning.
Merkel and the EU should bring some sence of reason.
Heck us texans have this trigger finger thing, and when it gets itchy - watch out all you varmits out there ...
 
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Just some of the headlines this am:

GWB putting his nose into this is concerning.
Merkel and the EU should bring some sence of reason.

If Merkel and the EU 'pulled their weight' instead of letting the USA do all the 'heavy lifting' (aka the Balkans and Afghanistan etc) they might be able to 'bring some sense of reason', although I don't quite know how this can be achieved when you are dealing with fundamentalist fanatics. Reason and fanatics don't normally mix very well.
 
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Just some of the headlines this am:

GWB putting his nose into this is concerning.
Merkel and the EU should bring some sence of reason.

If Merkel and the EU 'pulled their wheight' instead of letting the USA do all the 'heavy lifting' (aka the Balkans and Afghanistan etc) they might be able to 'bring some sense of reason', although I don't quite know how this can be achieved when you are dealing with fundamentalist fanatics. Reason and fanatics don't normally mix very well.
 
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