The Middle East and Western Asia: Bit of a hot spot?

[CanOz]

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Time to go long on these?

LOCKHEED MARTIN CP [LMT]
HONEYWELL INTL INC [HON]
GEN DYNAMICS CP [GD]
NORTHROP GRUM HOL CO [NOC]
ROCKWELL COLLINS INC [COL]

Whats the code for Haliburton?

 

[wayneL]

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Whats the code for Haliburton?

Halliburton [SATAN]





HAL actually

 

[Bobby]

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Halliburton [SATAN]





HAL actually

That was funny .

Stuff them humans you'll do me !

Bob.

 

[kransky]

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what would be a good way to leverage on the price of oil?

 

[Sean K]

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Hhhhmmm. I think it's actually illegal to enter a sovereign nation and run around killing people....

US boosts secret missions in Iran
Correspondents in Washington
February 27, 2007

THE US is reportedly stepping up covert operations in Iran in a new strategy that risks sparking an "open confrontation" with the Islamic republic.

US military and special-operations teams had increased their activities inside Iran, entering from Iraq to gather intelligence and to pursue Iranian operatives, reports said yesterday.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh claimed in an article in The New Yorker that US clandestine operations in Iran, Syria and the wider region had been "guided by Vice-President Dick Cheney", relying heavily onSaudi Arabia and on the Saudi national security adviser, Prince Bandar.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21293243-601,00.html

 

[Aussiejeff]

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Hhhhmmm. I think it's actually illegal to enter a sovereign nation and run around killing people....

US boosts secret missions in Iran
Correspondents in Washington
February 27, 2007

Unless of course, you consider yourself to be "above the law". Besides, the U.S. IS the ultimate "law enforcement agency" on the planet, isn't it?

In my 57 years on this planet I'm sure I've seen/read about this scenario occuring endlessly over the millenia somewhere before... eg: some megalomaniac emperor/dictator/head honcho/president etc thinks his popularity is waning and HEY PRESTO - "LET'S HAVE ANOTHER WAR! PUT THOSE PESKY ANTI ESTABLISHMENT TYPES IN THE FRONT LINE! MUHAHAHAAAAA...!!!"

There ya go - problem solvered. Err. at least for "him what's at the top of the pile", that is..... bound to get re-elected when you are a strong warrior in a time of war crisis.

It's all very simple philosophy really....

Cheers?

AJ

 

[imajica]

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The U.S. will manipulate the media and the public consciousness into believing that IRAN are a threat

why?

IRAN has billions of barrels of oil in the ground - The western world is a society built on a foundation of oil - Goerge Bush will lie and kill in order to secure the future of this urban suburbia



P.S. I haven't read the entire thread so if I'm rehashing comments - I apologise

 

[noirua]

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Only sabre rattling. The powers behind the scenes in Iran will cave in.

 

[Nicks]

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All too sickeningly true Toc Bat.

The moral bancruptcy in that place emits an unbearable stench.

Wayne (ex yank)

Hi Toc Bat and Wayne, and evryone else.

I too am often amazed at the ignorance of many Americans. However, they are generally good people. My missus is American and her family is lovely. I have been to the US several times and met many dumb people and many bright people. Many pro war, pro fuel, pro pollution and many not. I also meet a lot of undesirables here in Australia, in Europe. I guess its anywhere.

They are a big country and often do not have adequate world representation on their nightly news, not to mention the media is often controlled by powerful factions. Sounds a bit like Channel nine doesnt it?

Lets not pick on the yanks. In general they are a good country with fair values. Sometimes they have warped foreign policy, but so do many other countries. Just ask a West Papuan.

At least in Australia and the USA you can speak up, criticise your Government, even stand for election if you want, and by right as a free person you are free to do all of these things.

I think we need to understand that all Governments manipulate people. This includes the Hezbollah, the Likud Party, the Iranian leader's party, the Republican party, Berlusconi's Party, Indonesia's Govt, and my favourtie manipulator the Liberal Party. Even worse, some countries there is not even a choice...

 

[CanOz]

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Hi Toc Bat and Wayne, and evryone else.

I too am often amazed at the ignorance of many Americans. However, they are generally good people. My missus is American and her family is lovely. I have been to the US several times and met many dumb people and many bright people. Many pro war, pro fuel, pro pollution and many not. I also meet a lot of undesirables here in Australia, in Europe. I guess its anywhere.

They are a big country and often do not have adequate world representation on their nightly news, not to mention the media is often controlled by powerful factions. Sounds a bit like Channel nine doesnt it?

Lets not pick on the yanks. In general they are a good country with fair values. Sometimes they have warped foreign policy, but so do many other countries. Just ask a West Papuan.

At least in Australia and the USA you can speak up, criticise your Government, even stand for election if you want, and by right as a free person you are free to do all of these things.

I think we need to understand that all Governments manipulate people. This includes the Hezbollah, the Likud Party, the Iranian leader's party, the Republican party, Berlusconi's Party, Indonesia's Govt, and my favourtie manipulator the Liberal Party. Even worse, some countries there is not even a choice...

Your absolutly right, its not the American people as such...just a few that have shaped Americas foriegn policy over the last four or six decades!

Talk about digging thier own grave!

Cheers,

 

[wayneL]

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Hi Toc Bat and Wayne, and evryone else.

I too am often amazed at the ignorance of many Americans. However, they are generally good people. My missus is American and her family is lovely. I have been to the US several times and met many dumb people and many bright people. Many pro war, pro fuel, pro pollution and many not. I also meet a lot of undesirables here in Australia, in Europe. I guess its anywhere.

They are a big country and often do not have adequate world representation on their nightly news, not to mention the media is often controlled by powerful factions. Sounds a bit like Channel nine doesnt it?

Lets not pick on the yanks. In general they are a good country with fair values. Sometimes they have warped foreign policy, but so do many other countries. Just ask a West Papuan.

At least in Australia and the USA you can speak up, criticise your Government, even stand for election if you want, and by right as a free person you are free to do all of these things.

I think we need to understand that all Governments manipulate people. This includes the Hezbollah, the Likud Party, the Iranian leader's party, the Republican party, Berlusconi's Party, Indonesia's Govt, and my favourtie manipulator the Liberal Party. Even worse, some countries there is not even a choice...

Fair comment Nicks,

There are some truly magnificent people there, not many, but enough... and hats off to them.

I'm glad you found some of them.

 

[Sean K]

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Read a great article in the Fin today on the Shiite/Sunni situation in the Middle East. If you didn't get it, it will be in the Review section tomorrow.

In other news:

Iran N-plans threat to world sharemarkets, says former White House adviser
Vanessa Burrow
March 2, 2007

IRAN'S insistence on developing nuclear capabilities has more potential to destabilise than the plunge in Chinese stocks that set off a one-day dive on world markets this week, says a former White House economic adviser...............................

http://www.theage.com.au/news/busin...te-houseadviser/2007/03/01/1172338795596.html

 

[Sean K]

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Iran captures British sailers.....What if they were US??...hmmmmm

In other ongoing news from The Age:

Iran vows to continue atomic work
March 26, 2007 - 6:34AM

Iran says it will press ahead with its nuclear program despite an "illegal" UN resolution imposing new financial and arms sanctions.

"Iran will not stop its peaceful and legal nuclear trend even for one second because of such an illegal resolution," Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on his website www.president.ir.

The UN Security Council unanimously approved the sanctions against Tehran on Sunday for its refusal to suspend a nuclear program, but major powers also offered new talks and renewed an economic and technological incentive package offer.

"The Iranian nation will not..........................

 

[zed327]

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Wouldn't be surprised if the Poms have set out to create this mess with their capture.

Don't know what George has got on Blair but it must be bloody good to make a Labour prime minister carry on like Maggie Thatcher.

 

[YOUNG_TRADER]

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Iran captures British sailers.....What if they were US??...hmmmmm

It would have been BYE BYE Iran,

That would have been the excuse they needed,

The Brits better get their men back ASAP, else THE WORLD WILL LOSE RESPECT FOR THEM!

Remember how nuts the Israelies went to get back 1 artillery man?

 

[Sean K]

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This will probably end harmlessly, but wars have started on less.

Blair warns Iran over captured Brits
London
March 26, 2007 - 3:05PM

British Prime Minister Tony Blair has warned Iran the fate of 15 British sailors and marines seized off the Iraqi coast is a "fundamental" issue for his government, as Iran suggested the group may be put on trial for violating its waters.

 

[greggy]

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This will probably end harmlessly, but wars have started on less.

But were the British in violation or is the Iranian Govt just trying to pick another fight? Considering the Iranian leader is a bit on the loopy side I tend to believe he's just wanting another fight.

 

[CanOz]

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What would the western world think if they held them two years or so without a trial?

Not much we can say now is there?

Cheers,

 

[greggy]

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What would the western world think if they held them two years or so without a trial?

Not much we can say now is there?

Cheers,

One wrong doesn't make another right.

 

[Sean K]

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What would the western world think if they held them two years or so without a trial?

Not much we can say now is there?

Cheers,

LOL. Can't imagine it happening though can you? Different situations to Hicks I suppose. Is that what you're refferring to?

In regards to Iranian territory, Blair seems to be saying that their understanding was that they were NOT in Iranian waters. If that is the case, capturing foreign soldiers/sailors in international waters could be deemed an act of war in itself.

Haven't seen the last of this one.