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Because that would be the pot calling the kettle black.:
Very interesting article by Peter Van Onselen. And that hypothetical meeting with Sen Bob Brown would be worth the price of admission.
Labor should take the risk and dump Gillard By Peter van Onselen, Contributing editor From: The Australian August 27, 2011 https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...1u2nDA&usg=AFQjCNFVgz6PT8nDeTcuQro7TN4JEYa13A
"...If, however, Labor wishes to give itself a positive chance of improving its polling quagmire and exploiting the greatest weakness on the Coalition side - Tony Abbott's unpopularity - it must seriously consider replacing the deeply unpopular Gillard...
...Under such a scenario the new leader should be West Australian Stephen Smith. Rudd is a more popular figure and probably has more chance of winning the next election, but there is no way his Labor colleagues would have him back, certainly not now...
...Smith could declare that while he believes an emissions trading scheme is in the nation's best interests, he is going to take Abbott up on his idea of a plebiscite to determine the issue....Smith should tell Greens leader Bob Brown that if he doesn't like this course of action he should go ahead and force an early election, which would install Abbott in the prime ministership...
Talking to Liberals, they fear a change of leader exercised in the right way. Some of Abbott's closest supporters worry a fresh face would contrast with an unpopular Opposition Leader. They want Gillard as their opponent at the next election.
Why wouldn't they? She is the most unpopular Prime Minister in our history."
I think that this Gillard government is finished and it is highly unlikely that they will make it to the next election without imploding. If it's not the Thomson affair it will be something else. They are just a disaster and are lurching from one mess to the next.
Just remember: there's never just one cockroach!
Joea, in cold political analysis, I think Van Onselen is on the money. But you are correct to say that the problems go deeper than just the leadership, as the Thomson affair demonstrates....What do I think? I think that just a new leader will not solve the problem.
joea
The independents are starting to gag and throw mud, it's all starting to look like a shipwreck.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-day-abbott-bared-his-soul-20110827-1jfgv.html
Windsor must be feeling the heat...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/gi...aster-poll-shows/story-fn6bfkm6-1226124021182KEVIN Rudd would be Labor's sole MP in Queensland if an election was held today, according to a new opinion poll.
Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan would be among those swept from office if, as the exclusive Galaxy Poll finds, the ALP's Lower House seats tally in Queensland plunged from seven to one.
Wider ramifications for the Gillard Government are stark - its worst states could deliver enough seats on their own for a Coalition victory.
Most recent polls show Victoria is the only state where Labor is ahead on the two-party vote.
Today's Galaxy Poll in The Courier Mail confirms the Government would be wiped out no matter what happens in Prime Minister Julia Gillard's home state.
Labor's Queensland primary vote has collapsed to 23 per cent - a more than 10 percentage point slump since last year's August 21 election.
Bring it on!!! :angry:
the lurid scandal surrounding Craig Thomson has shone a searchlight back onto the corrupt and self-serving culture within the union movement. That Gillard, Windsor, Oakeshott, the Labor Party, the union machine and even Fair Work Australia, through its inertia, have all served to protect Thomson will merely underline this government's illegitimacy in the mind of the electorate which, if given a chance, would throw them all out of office.
As long as Craig Thomson sits smirking in parliament the stench of the Gillard government will never go away. The first Labor man to put his hand up to give this low life the boot will be the next leader of a depleted team. It would have to be someone with a safe seat and a desire for revenge. Rudd fits the bill.
Labor is going to save a fortune on how to vote leaflets, nobody will want one.
Labor at 23% primary in QLD. If this was a bout the referee would stop it on a mercy rule. Or at least the handlers would throw in the towel.Gillard is doing the LIMBO ROCK. How looooow can she go?
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...put-labor-in-red/story-e6frerdf-1226124008753
Labor at 23% primary in QLD. If this was a bout the referee would stop it on a mercy rule. Or at least the handlers would throw in the towel.
Labor at 23% primary in QLD. If this was a bout the referee would stop it on a mercy rule. Or at least the handlers would throw in the towel.
I reackon Labors only chance to gain some ground and credibility is to sack Gillard and throw out the Carbon tax.
Tony Abbott would have to perform well if it happens otherwise he might also fall.
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