The Gillard Government

[wayneL]

Hopefully the truth will be revealed in the Thompson saga!

To change the subject slightly ...5 great sentences.

1 You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2 What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3 The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4 When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care for them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of a nation.

and one from Maggie Thatcher.

Socialism fails when it runs out of other people's money....!!!!!!!!

Well I say Julia Gillard your time is up.
joea

Very much like this passage usually attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but actually created by the Rev. William J. H. Boetcker, who lectured around the United States about industrial relations at the turn of the twentieth century.

You cannot bring prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot further brotherhood of men by inciting class hatred.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

 

[Knobby22]

Clark and Dawe have done it again - very funny.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3296985.htm

 

[noco]

I think Thompson is going to find himself up the proverbial creek without a paddle,

Maybe an election before Xmas and the end of the carbon (dioxide)tax.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ep-up-on-gillard/story-e6frezz0-1226117666780

Why are they "pussy footing" around with this Thompson. Why arn't the police investigating him for fraud. There appears to be plenty of evidence.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rs-craig-thomson/story-fn59niix-1226117739077

 

[joea]

Clark and Dawe have done it again - very funny.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3296985.htm

Knobby22
Yeah, these guys certainly bring out a chuckle.
Maybe we are all a bit uptight, just have to chill out a bit .

Well I generally watch these two with half a glass of red and enjoy both, the wine and the performance.
joea

 

[Knobby22]

Knobby22
Yeah, these guys certainly bring out a chuckle.
Maybe we are all a bit uptight, just have to chill out a bit .

Well I generally watch these two with half a glass of red and enjoy both, the wine and the performance.
joea

Yea, I love a red, great idea

 

[noco]

As the Thomsom saga deepens, we could well go to an general election before Xmas.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ensible-dealings/story-e6freooo-1226118454012

 

[drsmith]

Terry McCrann sums up the trade in international carbon credits well.

We essentially give our wealth away.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-modelling-shows/story-e6frg9k6-1226118430293

 

[sptrawler]

As the Thomsom saga deepens, we could well go to an general election before Xmas.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ensible-dealings/story-e6freooo-1226118454012

Also it may give Wilkie a "get out of gaol card"

http://www.theage.com.au/national/wilkie-watching-craig-thomson-controversy-20110819-1j2hl.html

 

[joea]

Hi.
Dennis Shanahan is suggesting that Thompson could do "a reverse colston" by resigning from the ALP and sit on the crossbench as an independant and support the Labor Party.
Story in Australian.

I watched GILLARD on TV at the COAG, and I thought she was her "arrogant self" when she told Bligh, they would continue a conversation, not negotiations on the item list at COAG.
joea

 

[drsmith]

These independents do like making noises.

Andrew Wilkie, like the other Labor backing independents, will only jump the good ship ALP as the stern disappears below the water.

 

[moXJO]

As the Thomsom saga deepens, we could well go to an general election before Xmas.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ensible-dealings/story-e6freooo-1226118454012

Don't get hopes up as he won't go.
Either he had to go bankrupt, or be convicted of an offence punishable by a year or more in jail. It will be cleaned up to give him enough of a smack but not enough to throw him out

 

[noco]

Don't get hopes up as he won't go.
Either he had to go bankrupt, or be convicted of an offence punishable by a year or more in jail. It will be cleaned up to give him enough of a smack but not enough to throw him out

Hang on he had a splurge of $100,000. Where did it go?

I know of a case where this individual misappropriated $140,000 and did 7 years in the clanger.

I should imagine he would have to account for $100,000, don't you agree?

 

[Calliope]

Who is this mystery man patronising brothels and masquerading as Thomson?

homson.

 

[moXJO]

Hang on he had a splurge of $100,000. Where did it go?

I know of a case where this individual misappropriated $140,000 and did 7 years in the clanger.

I should imagine he would have to account for $100,000, don't you agree?

Would love nothing more than for this government to get the boot. But have already seen how these things get swept under the carpet with no charges when it comes to politicians. Labor has a deep reach and influence and some of the best strategic worms to turn the dirt.
But there are other factors in play that could make it interesting. Thompson has sparked the ATO to look a little deeper in Union affairs and there will be some unhappy campers about to take the audit. So they won't exactly be cheering him on. Maybe more dirt will come to light.
Just another nail in the coffin in the long run, but maybe not in time to save us from a carbon tax.

 

[noco]

How can this bloke possibly escape investigation and scrutiny of misappropiation of HSU funds.
Why arn't the Health Service Union members asking questions about how their union fees are handled?

http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...ents/column_labor_chains_itself_to_a_carcase/

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ensible-dealings/story-e6freooo-1226118454012

 

[joea]

Well all I can say is Wayne Swan must be a "nutter".
He is pushing for people to switch banks.
"HELLO" wayne the banks do not give a " s**t " what you are trying to do.
When they first heard about it , they had a B-A-Q or drinks what ever, and decided that they just did not care.
They are making $billions of profit in the current economic climate.
They made billions in the past and will do so in the future.

I just do not "get" the bloke. He must have got his economic's degree in a friday night "chook" raffle when they run out of chooks.
joea

 

[Julia]

How can this bloke possibly escape investigation and scrutiny of misappropiation of HSU funds.
Why arn't the Health Service Union members asking questions about how their union fees are handled?

Because it's not in their interests to do so. They don't want to see the government lose power. It needs a police investigation to avoid obvious bias.

What an idjit Thomson must be! If he's going to use prostitutes surely to God he'd have the sense to put it on a personal credit card or, better yet, pay cash.

To think anyone is going to believe that someone purloined the Union credit card and also stole his driver's licence and forged his signature is simply stupid.

If Ms Gillard allows this to be swept under the carpet it will confirm her own shonky idea of ethics. However, that is what we probably should all expect will happen.

 

[nulla nulla]

Hang on he had a splurge of $100,000. Where did it go? ?

No wonder he walks arround with a big grin on his face. One very satisfied customer.

I know of a case where this individual misappropriated $140,000 and did 7 years in the clanger.

And the "Shauny Cash" perpertrator of the fraud "Trio Capital" only got two and a bit years for ripping off hundreds of millions. Do you get less time for having the imagination to think big?

I should imagine he would have to account for $100,000, don't you agree?

Maybe some-one is bailing him out with a short term loan until this governments term expires (which could be sooner rather than later).

 

[medicowallet]

Just read this online

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ed-craig-thomson/story-fn59niix-1226118497514

I had a laugh at this part

""I deal with Mr Thomson in his capacity as the member for Dobell representing that community and he does a good job," Ms Gillard said after the Council of Australian Governments meeting ended."

Ok I note how she said her relationship was on a purely "professional" level....

But, I thought, I wonder how Wayne Swan would reply to this type of question, I mean, if there was a fiver or a tenner involved, would he be able to resist??

 

[Julia]

Extract from article on Craig Thomson from "The Punch":

Mr Thomson has denied the allegation of irregular spending - still the subject of an investigation by Fair Work Australia.

With the federal government again under pressure to defend Mr Thomson, the Herald has learnt that Fair Work Australia paid $7092 for legal advice to shut down questioning by the opposition about the investigation into the Health Services Union's financial reporting.

How does this work? Fair Work Australia are 'investigating' Mr Thomson, but they paid over $7000 to shut down questioning by the Opposition?????

Full article here:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/mp-link-to-escort-calls-20110818-1j0az.html