Probably just nice to know it is coming from "real" people as distinct from creative astroturfing.
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One day...hopefully soon.. some members of this forum might realise that
1) There is a very serious problem with CO2 emissions increasing global temperatures to a point where current life on life will be impossible
http://www.theage.com.au/national/t...f-degrees-says-one-expert-20110712-1hcad.html
2) That tackling this problem is a world wide effort and that even if out contribution is necessarily small it is still part of a larger scale effort.
3) Putting a price on carbon may not be the only answer or the whole one but it sure beats the drivel that Tony Abbott is trotting out as an excuse to tackle global warming.(which, incidentally, he theoretically accepts is happening and caused by human produced CO2 )
http://www.theage.com.au/business/abbotts-climate-plan-fails-the-test-20110712-1hc6z.html
1) Alarmist rubbish. Life on earth would thrive in a warmer environment. Compare the diversity of life in the tropics compared to the poles. That does not mean we should rush blindly to that outcome, but to suggest that the end of the world is nigh as per the headline of that article is nonsense.Probably just nice to know it is coming from "real" people as distinct from creative astroturfing.
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One day...hopefully soon.. some members of this forum might realise that
1) There is a very serious problem with CO2 emissions increasing global temperatures to a point where current life on life will be impossible
http://www.theage.com.au/national/t...f-degrees-says-one-expert-20110712-1hcad.html
2) That tackling this problem is a world wide effort and that even if out contribution is necessarily small it is still part of a larger scale effort.
3) Putting a price on carbon may not be the only answer or the whole one but it sure beats the drivel that Tony Abbott is trotting out as an excuse to tackle global warming.(which, incidentally, he theoretically accepts is happening and caused by human produced CO2 )
http://www.theage.com.au/business/abbotts-climate-plan-fails-the-test-20110712-1hc6z.html
drsmith;645453]1) Alarmist rubbish. Life on earth would thrive in a warmer environment. Compare the diversity of life in the tropics compared to the poles. That does not mean we should rush blindly to that outcome, but to suggest that the end of the world is nigh as per the headline of that article is nonsense.
Whether or not that's the case, a carbon tax in Australia while the majority of global fossil fuel use is not subject to a comparable carbon cost will change that how ?Bio diversity takes a lot longer than 100 or 200 years to form so there would carnage in the immediate term, but you are right it would not destroy the world but it will cause some significant problems for humanity on a massive scale.
+1. Exactly my question also.Whether or not that's the case, a carbon tax in Australia while the majority of global fossil fuel use is not subject to a comparable carbon cost will change that how ?
As would withdrawal of current baseload electricity sources. Biodiversity has survived meteorite strike and ice ages, so .00002 deg warmer should be manageable.Bio diversity takes a lot longer than 100 or 200 years to form so there would carnage in the immediate term, but you are right it would not destroy the world but it will cause some significant problems for humanity on a massive scale.
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Whether or not that's the case, a carbon tax in Australia while the majority of global fossil fuel use is not subject to a comparable carbon cost will change that how ?
Again you surprise me, the carbon tax looks more like treasury tax reform by stealth than any thing to do with reducing carbon emissions to me.
One could believe compassionate votes contributed to the result in our recent federal election. I did feel the desire to vote for Julia on the basis of giving her an opportunity being the first female Prime Minister.This is actually making me ill now, she can't be that desperate to resort to this.
...This is actually making me ill now, she can't be that desperate to resort to this.
At least you have abandoned it as a reasonable proposition for the latter.Again you surprise me, the carbon tax looks more like treasury tax reform by stealth than any thing to do with reducing carbon emissions to me.
...Don't particularly think Abbot has what it takes either. Focusses on fault in most everything Labor supports when could be focussing on 'detailed policies' his own party has to offer.
Sorry for butting in but just noting the magnetism of societies toward insurmountable debt rather than surplus funds. Wondering where this ideology comes from. The yanks maybe.As for tax reform, $4.3bn here, $3bn there, $10.8bn somewhere else. To this government it's just Monopoly money with six extra zeros. More like tax waste to me.
Not specific to Australia, but for the western world, my thoughts are broadly that it's either to avoid the day of reckoning till someone else's watch and/or manage the real value of the debt through inflation. The latter would obviously turn the screws more slowly on living standards, provided it didn't get out of control.Sorry for butting in but just noting the magnetism of societies toward insurmountable debt rather than surplus funds. Wondering where this ideology comes from. The yanks maybe.
Gillard says she is a shy person. So are most reptiles but they are still poisonous.
This little piece of play acting was reported on "PM" this evening and I felt quite sick.3. 'Do a Hawkie'. Get all emotional and blubber on TV, this will get the female vote and half the male vote if you are decent looking.
If 3 doesn't work YOU'RE F*CKED!
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ar-float-says-pm/story-fn9ar0ql-1226094649448
This is actually making me ill now, she can't be that desperate to resort to this.
Agree. He comes across as very capable, articulate and able to answer questions with consummate skill.Scott Morrison could be contender down the track, imo.
True enough, but the Coalition could do with a bit of Labor policy in this regard when it comes to Malcolm Turnbull. His continuing injections of poison demonstrate that he is absolutely not a team player and is determined to destabilise Tony Abbott's leadership if he can.At least the coalition are listening to the people and seem to have better consultative processes. ALP seem to make decisions at the top and their MPs just have to wear it.
Doubt it's any sort of genuine tax reform, but it's heartening to see that you are seeing the light about the validity of this plan re emissions.Again you surprise me, the carbon tax looks more like treasury tax reform by stealth than any thing to do with reducing carbon emissions to me.
Yes that makes sense but no doubting that first world countries could take a living 'standard' adjustment rather than living beyond average means; the scourge of ill-disciplined credit.The latter would obviously turn the screws more slowly on living standards, provided it didn't get out of control.
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