So_Cynical
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Funny cos that's what i thought too....the real news was the tax shuffle, the carbon simply inevitable given the 19 year lead up.
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Funny cos that's what i thought too....the real news was the tax shuffle, the carbon simply inevitable given the 19 year lead up.
Julia
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What do you think actually constitutes the 'tax shuffle'?
Wysiwyg
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An element of whooing the voters too. Abbot has developed a distinct John Howard accent which I find, to use waynel's oft quoted word, disingenuous.
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I think that Trainspotter did a quick summary of the spending that the ALP has done so far. It's not pretty and what is worse, pretty much no results.
Yep, car crash in slow-mo, but that car represents out country.
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Just heard a classic on the midday news, Wayne Swan saying Tony is causing uncertainty, didn't know if I should post it here or in the joke thread.
How can they keep a straight face and say something like that. Maybe they should ring D.J's , Noni B or Cool and Cosy insulation and ask them who they think is causing uncertainty. LOL
What an absolute Richard Head.
How can they keep a straight face and say something like that. Maybe they should ring D.J's , Noni B or Cool and Cosy insulation and ask them who they think is causing uncertainty. LOL
What an absolute Richard Head.
springhill
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Just heard a classic on the midday news, Wayne Swan saying Tony is causing uncertainty, didn't know if I should post it here or in the joke thread.
How can they keep a straight face and say something like that. Maybe they should ring D.J's , Noni B or Cool and Cosy insulation and ask them who they think is causing uncertainty. LOL
What an absolute Richard Head.
Who the f*ck let Wayneker Swan into our state anyway? Should have been shoot on sight orders at the border.
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Carbon tax supporter John Hewson can now see the writing on the birthday cake.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2795538.html
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2795538.html
Logique
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With this poll, pricing carbon is one thing, but it's the ensuing tax that people are against. Lowest approval since Paul Keating. Not much joy in it for Malcolm Turnbull either.
https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...08y4Aw&usg=AFQjCNEx0TPsb1-HhrE8iOK_clGbzhXTEg
"Sky News
Labor registers worst Nielsen poll - Monday July 18, 2011
Australians have turned on the Labor government and its carbon price package, according to the results of a Nielsen poll published in Fairfax newspapers.
If an election were held today, the government would be thrown out with its primary vote down to 26 per cent - one percentage point lower than last month and the lowest for a major party in the poll's 39-year history.
Labor's two-party-preferred vote has fallen a further two points to 39 per cent, leaving it trailing the coalition by 22 points.
For the first time, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is ahead of Ms Gillard as preferred prime minister, with an 11-point lead at 51 per cent (up five points) to 40 per cent (down 6 points).
Julia Gillard's approval rating as prime minister has dropped another three points to 34 per cent, and her disapproval rating has risen three to 62 per cent.
The same proportion - 56 per cent of the 1400 respondents - opposed a carbon price, said Ms Gillard had no mandate for her plan, and want an election before the plan is introduced.
The coalition's primary vote is up two points to 51 per cent, while the Greens' is down one point to 11 per cent.
Mr Abbott's approval rating as Opposition Leader edged up one point to 47 per cent while his disapproval rating went down two points to 48 per cent.
It is Ms Gillard's worst approval rating so far and the lowest for a prime minister since Paul Keating's 34 per cent in March 1995.
The poll was taken between Thursday and Saturday last week."
https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...08y4Aw&usg=AFQjCNEx0TPsb1-HhrE8iOK_clGbzhXTEg
"Sky News
Labor registers worst Nielsen poll - Monday July 18, 2011
Australians have turned on the Labor government and its carbon price package, according to the results of a Nielsen poll published in Fairfax newspapers.
If an election were held today, the government would be thrown out with its primary vote down to 26 per cent - one percentage point lower than last month and the lowest for a major party in the poll's 39-year history.
Labor's two-party-preferred vote has fallen a further two points to 39 per cent, leaving it trailing the coalition by 22 points.
For the first time, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is ahead of Ms Gillard as preferred prime minister, with an 11-point lead at 51 per cent (up five points) to 40 per cent (down 6 points).
Julia Gillard's approval rating as prime minister has dropped another three points to 34 per cent, and her disapproval rating has risen three to 62 per cent.
The same proportion - 56 per cent of the 1400 respondents - opposed a carbon price, said Ms Gillard had no mandate for her plan, and want an election before the plan is introduced.
The coalition's primary vote is up two points to 51 per cent, while the Greens' is down one point to 11 per cent.
Mr Abbott's approval rating as Opposition Leader edged up one point to 47 per cent while his disapproval rating went down two points to 48 per cent.
It is Ms Gillard's worst approval rating so far and the lowest for a prime minister since Paul Keating's 34 per cent in March 1995.
The poll was taken between Thursday and Saturday last week."
springhill
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Filthy polluting Indos.
If Gillard had any shred of true conviction in what she is spruiking, she would calculate the price of the carbon emissions from this planet-destroying volcano, deduct it from our foreign aid to Indonesian and give it to the indonesian pensioners (cough cough) and the UN!
This is her plan here, so why not be regional sheriffs, and enforce our beliefs on others?
"We hoive a respoinsiboility toi the regioon and the planet, it's the right thiong toi doi."
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/181...no-erupted-volcano-erupted-2011-indonesia.htm
If Gillard had any shred of true conviction in what she is spruiking, she would calculate the price of the carbon emissions from this planet-destroying volcano, deduct it from our foreign aid to Indonesian and give it to the indonesian pensioners (cough cough) and the UN!
This is her plan here, so why not be regional sheriffs, and enforce our beliefs on others?
"We hoive a respoinsiboility toi the regioon and the planet, it's the right thiong toi doi."
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/181...no-erupted-volcano-erupted-2011-indonesia.htm
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The latest opinion polls are not looking too healthy, if you take out the Labor party, Green and affiliated Indepedent members their staff and familly and friends votes. They must be under 20% LOL
Hi.
For some reason I have thought Gillard does not understand what she is doing to our country.
I was made aware of this piece.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
---Winston Churchill----
joea
For some reason I have thought Gillard does not understand what she is doing to our country.
I was made aware of this piece.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
---Winston Churchill----
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That pretty well sums up what is going on.
And the end result, NATIONALISE EVERY DAMN THING. Banks, mining, farming and manuafacturing.
You own nothing. The state owns it all. Socialism is one step behund communism.
Logique
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Hadn't heard of this before, should be interesting. Hey GetUp, don't worry, plenty of time for you to organize a bogus 'Truckers for the Carbon Tax' decoy group. Auntie will ensure they get coverage.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...lueprint_for_labors_next_leader/#commentsmore
By blogger: vivienne, Wed 20 Jul 11
"I heard there is a convoy of trucks heading for Canberra for the 22nd August early morning, they will be traveling on every major highway, coming from every major town and small ones as well. With a vote of ‘no confidence’ in this Federal Government, everyone is welcome to join in, large trucks, small trucks, camper vans, caravans and cars, horse and pony carts as well. Sponsored by the NRFA nrfa.com.au
Join in make history happen, throw this rotten Government out! Its our duty The People of Australia Unite."
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...lueprint_for_labors_next_leader/#commentsmore
By blogger: vivienne, Wed 20 Jul 11
"I heard there is a convoy of trucks heading for Canberra for the 22nd August early morning, they will be traveling on every major highway, coming from every major town and small ones as well. With a vote of ‘no confidence’ in this Federal Government, everyone is welcome to join in, large trucks, small trucks, camper vans, caravans and cars, horse and pony carts as well. Sponsored by the NRFA nrfa.com.au
Join in make history happen, throw this rotten Government out! Its our duty The People of Australia Unite."
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That convoy idea sounds like a winner, if it has a huge turnout of caravans and campers it will epitomize Labors grass roots dissatisfaction.
The government has lost its direction completely. The only people that are going to loose jobs and struggle with higher energy costs are the very people they are supposed to be looking after.
How can the government reconcile giving a handout so you won't feel the extra cost of the carbon tax. When the pupose of the tax is to make energy ridiculously expensive to bring about change and make unviable alternatives attractive.
Also how many lawyers, accountants and "profesionals" work in factories, smelters, coal mines, power stations, car assembley plants where the real job losses are going to be felt.
This is the problem with Labor they have lost all credibiliy with the grass roots. They are all chardonnay socialists who really don't represent anyones interests other than their own. Thats why Bob Brown is having no trouble getting his own way because Labor stands for nothing so they may as well do as he says.
Like has been said on this forum before, the next election results will be record breaking.
The government has lost its direction completely. The only people that are going to loose jobs and struggle with higher energy costs are the very people they are supposed to be looking after.
How can the government reconcile giving a handout so you won't feel the extra cost of the carbon tax. When the pupose of the tax is to make energy ridiculously expensive to bring about change and make unviable alternatives attractive.
Also how many lawyers, accountants and "profesionals" work in factories, smelters, coal mines, power stations, car assembley plants where the real job losses are going to be felt.
This is the problem with Labor they have lost all credibiliy with the grass roots. They are all chardonnay socialists who really don't represent anyones interests other than their own. Thats why Bob Brown is having no trouble getting his own way because Labor stands for nothing so they may as well do as he says.
Like has been said on this forum before, the next election results will be record breaking.
IFocus
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Meant to post this earlier proves Abbottliar alive and well
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...m-a-worthy-start/story-e6frgd0x-1226095153467
Just heard a classic on the midday news, Wayne Swan saying Tony is causing uncertainty, didn't know if I should post it here or in the joke thread.
How can they keep a straight face and say something like that. Maybe they should ring D.J's , Noni B or Cool and Cosy insulation and ask them who they think is causing uncertainty. LOL
What an absolute Richard Head.
Hi.
On the radio today Gillard was saying at least Labor has guts to implement the CARBON TAX.
Well when I look up "guts" in the dictionary I could not find any association of guts to stupidity.
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What's old George been smoking ?
People would be worse off because they would be paying a new tax.
Also, the the free threshold is not $6k. It's around $16k after taking into account the low income offset. Carbon tax and all, Labor fails to get rid of the low income offset.
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It's our guts though that is being pot on the line.
As a country, we were the ones who were stupid enough to give this lot another chance.
