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Here was my suggestion a while ago here:

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Brilliant WayneL. I am going to get this made for real and fly it from the flybridge of my boat. :D

So long as there is an open invitation to slurp expensive woobla and feast on fresh cray on said boat if ever I visit Gero again. (I'll bring my share) :D:D:D
 
27 percent! It's starting to look NSW'ish for delusional Labor. Destined for a collision with reality.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...pport-collapsing/story-fn59niix-1226092680105

In the two-week lead-up to Sunday's release of the full details of the government's carbon tax package, Labor's primary vote fell three percentage points to a record low of 27 per cent.

Support for the Coalition rose three percentage points to 49 per cent its highest primary votes since October 2001.
 
She was on talk back radio this morning while l was driving my car. I had to turn it off after 3 minutes. Oh the lies, damn lies....

(If the Government introduces a tax for CO2, and we (the public) get subsidized for it, why bother changing if it doesn't effect us, financially? And, if the Government was serious about 'Global Warming/Climate Change', why wind back the Solar Panel rebate?)
 
(If the Government introduces a tax for CO2, and we (the public) get subsidized for it, why bother changing if it doesn't effect us, financially?

Exactly. The only way to cut back on power usage is to make the consumer hurt.

Think of the banana analogy. I bought three bananas today at Coles for $1.80 each. Normally I would have bought a kilo.
 
Julia Gillard's definition of democracy,

"Democracy is not one long opinion poll. Democracy is leaders making the right choices for the nation's future."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...tax-announcement/story-fn59niix-1226093068395

Wikipedia's definition of democracy,

Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law.

From that, it's easy to see where she's gone wrong. Wikipedia's definition includes citizens. Julia Gillard's does not.
 
So a parliamentary democracy is one where a member is elected on the basis that (s)he best represents the electorate's views, but then proceeds to ignore the same?

In practice, the member represent's her/his party's platform and the electorate votes for which party's platform best matches their own views. Of course some people may opt to chose a member even if they prefer another party's platform, because they view the member as being better from a character point of view.

Her lie to the electorate on a carbon tax severely damages our democracy, as it clearly violates the principle of parliamentary democracy. The fact that The Greens and some independents have no issue with the about face and are willing to support the charade shows that they are equally lacking in principle.
 
Julia Gillard's definition of democracy,

"Democracy is not one long opinion poll. Democracy is leaders making the right choices for the nation's future." .

OMFG !!!!!!!!!! It is Animal Farm all over again. :banghead:

"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Julia that all people are equal. She would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell, Animal Farm, Ch. 5
 
I have just sent an email to every Labor, Green & Independant member, i encourage all others to do the same. :aus:
No responses from any of them yet. So far I've only had a few auto-replies.

Thanks Overit and Dr Zacchary for those addresses.
 
No responses from any of them yet. So far I've only had a few auto-replies.

Thanks Overit and Dr Zacchary for those addresses.

I received this from Shayne Neumann rather quickly.

Dear Brett

Thank you for emailing me regarding the carbon pricing scheme. I appreciate the time you have taken to let me know your thoughts.

In order for me to respond I need to confirm that you are a resident in my electorate of Blair.

Please forward your address and contact details to shayne.neumann.mp@aph.gov.au so that I can respond to your concerns.

In the meantime, please be assured that the carbon pricing scheme is just one element of the Clean Energy Future package. The carbon price will only be applied to the largest polluters for every tonne of pollution they release into our atmosphere. For more details of the package and what it will mean for you I recommend you visit www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au

Kind regards

Shayne Neumann MP



Also a reply from Julie Owens

Dear Brett

Thanks for emailing me. I have been talking to a lot of people in my electorate about this issue. Would you mind letting me know if you live in the Parramatta Electorate. If you do, please provide your name and address.

If you live elsewhere, thanks for emailing me anyway. I appreciate knowing the views of the broader community.

By the way, we supported pricing carbon through 2007 to 2010 and introduced legislation to Parliament – and didn’t require the support of the Greens at that time. We went to the last election with a commitment to pricing carbon - before we new the outcome of the election. I’ve been committed to it since 2004 and remain committed.

Julie Owens
 
I received this from Shayne Neumann rather quickly.

In order for me to respond I need to confirm that you are a resident in my electorate of Blair.

Also a reply from Julie Owens

Would you mind letting me know if you live in the Parramatta Electorate. If you do, please provide your name and address.
What difference does it make ?

This is a policy that affects the nation as a whole.
 
Exactly Dr Smith. Why do they need to know your name and address and to see if you are in their electorate? Afterall it is about a GLOBAL CO2 problem and not just their electorate issues.

*scoots out the door to go fishing*
 
Exactly Dr Smith. Why do they need to know your name and address and to see if you are in their electorate? Afterall it is about a GLOBAL CO2 problem and not just their electorate issues.

*scoots out the door to go fishing*

Probably just nice to know it is coming from "real" people as distinct from creative astroturfing.

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One day...hopefully soon.. some members of this forum might realise that

1) There is a very serious problem with CO2 emissions increasing global temperatures to a point where current life on life will be impossible

http://www.theage.com.au/national/t...f-degrees-says-one-expert-20110712-1hcad.html

2) That tackling this problem is a world wide effort and that even if out contribution is necessarily small it is still part of a larger scale effort.

3) Putting a price on carbon may not be the only answer or the whole one but it sure beats the drivel that Tony Abbott is trotting out as an excuse to tackle global warming.(which, incidentally, he theoretically accepts is happening and caused by human produced CO2 )

http://www.theage.com.au/business/abbotts-climate-plan-fails-the-test-20110712-1hc6z.html
 
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