The Gillard Government

[sptrawler]

Love this one. Julia thinks the problem is she doesn't have an upper class accent.
Jeez talk about missing the point.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...s-crisis-meeting/story-fn7x8me2-1226263221969

Maybe the people are sick of stupid government blowing $#!t loads of money, giving themselves pay rises, while upping the pension age(but not for them) increasing marginal tax rates. Introducing new taxes, reducing tax rebates to workers who live in god forsaken places and work 60hr weeks but are classed as 'fat cats'.
Then they sit back and say "we care about ordinary Australians" well I can tell them, from talking to ordinary Australians, they don't believe you.
The ordinary Australians that they are appealing to make up about 5% of the population, they can be reved up. But the majority of hard working Australians have had a gut full.

 

[wayneL]

Love this one. Julia thinks the problem is she doesn't have an upper class accent.
Jeez talk about missing the point.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...s-crisis-meeting/story-fn7x8me2-1226263221969

Her accent is awful though innit.

But you'd have to go right back to that dreaded Fabian impostor Malcom F to find a toff accent. I'd argue that a toff accent would work against a Oz politician far more than Julia's diabolical strine anyway.

Maybe the people are sick of stupid government blowing $#!t loads of money, giving themselves pay rises, while upping the pension age(but not for them) increasing marginal tax rates. Introducing new taxes, reducing tax rebates to workers who live in god forsaken places and work 60hr weeks but are classed as 'fat cats'.
Then they sit back and say "we care about ordinary Australians" well I can tell them, from talking to ordinary Australians, they don't believe you.
The ordinary Australians that they are appealing to make up about 5% of the population, they can be reved up. But the majority of hard working Australians have had a gut full.

Well yes. That is more to the point.

 

[Logique]

Love this one. Julia thinks the problem is she doesn't have an upper class accent..http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...s-crisis-meeting/story-fn7x8me2-1226263221969..

She sounds like Marcia Langton or Bob Hawke. In Labor Party terms, that is proletariat upper class, and has helped her career.

 

[joea]

It is interesting when you read voters comments related to news articles associated with Gillard and Labor.
Then you check the polls the voters complete in the Australian, then compare these to the latest poll that says Gillard approval as PM has increased 4%.
They just do not add up.
Now that she is attacking the Australian people, I think she is getting more arrogant or desperate. It almost appears that she believes she is "insulated" from bad polls, but will accept any positives of a swing her way.
Anyway the combination of polls and comments do not add up!!!

Of course they do if the polls are compiled from selective areas or seats.
joea

 

[noco]

It is interesting when you read voters comments related to news articles associated with Gillard and Labor.
Then you check the polls the voters complete in the Australian, then compare these to the latest poll that says Gillard approval as PM has increased 4%.
They just do not add up.
Now that she is attacking the Australian people, I think she is getting more arrogant or desperate. It almost appears that she believes she is "insulated" from bad polls, but will accept any positives of a swing her way.
Anyway the combination of polls and comments do not add up!!!

Of course they do if the polls are compiled from selective areas or seats.
joea

Yes Joe I agree. As you say the poll could be taken in a selective area. Maybe, News Poll want to keep Gillard in the chair for a while longer.

Give her enough rope to 'hang' herself.

 

[noco]

Yes Joe I agree. As you say the poll could be taken in a selective area. Maybe, News Poll want to keep Gillard in the chair for a while longer.

Give her enough rope to 'hang' herself.

Correction : It was Fairfax/ Nielsen poll and not News poll.

 

[Knobby22]

There are a few reasons I can think of as to why Labors polling has risen, but the one that seems most pertinanct is Gina Reinhardt. She has scared the horses a bit and under Howard you know she would be nullified but people aren't so sure under Abbott.

 

[Wysiwyg]

There are a few reasons I can think of as to why Labors polling has risen, but the one that seems most pertinanct is Gina Reinhardt. She has scared the horses a bit and under Howard you know she would be nullified but people aren't so sure under Abbott.

Maybe because he is a Howard reincarnate.

 

[Julia]

There are a few reasons I can think of as to why Labors polling has risen, but the one that seems most pertinanct is Gina Reinhardt. She has scared the horses a bit and under Howard you know she would be nullified but people aren't so sure under Abbott.

Goodness, Gina hadn't occurred to me as a reason for the improved polling. I'm not sure that your average Australian poll-responder is going to be thinking too much about Ms Rinehardt's business moves.

Maybe you're right. I'm struggling to understand the improvement for Labor and Gillard in particular in the fact of the Australia Day fiasco and all the Rudd rumours swirling about.

Could it be a horror at the idea of Our Kev actually coming back? That the voter remembers all too well how ghastly he was and is prepared to give Ms Gillard a boost because she's the lesser of the two evils?

I don't know, but it's a significant lift for the government and will no doubt cheer them.

There was a fairly sickening Dorothy Dix type interview on Radio National's Breakfast this morning with Fran Kelly asking two back benchers how they felt about Ms Gillard.
About ten minutes of free praise for Ms Gillard courtesy the ABC.

 

[sptrawler]

One has to question the accuracy of these polls, if you read the spot polls conducted by the papers.
I don't know how reliable these are either but it looks bad for labor.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...s-crisis-meeting/story-fn7x8me2-1226263221969

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/

In the telegraph, they ask can Julia save labor at the next election. The S.M.H and A.B.C might think so but there appears to be a lot who don't agree.

 

[Knobby22]

Could it be a horror at the idea of Our Kev actually coming back? That the voter remembers all too well how ghastly he was and is prepared to give Ms Gillard a boost because she's the lesser of the two evils?

I don't know, but it's a significant lift for the government and will no doubt cheer them.

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I agree, Kev coming back is a real negative and would have helped her personal approval. I thought of that as one of the reasons also.

The other third reason is Abbott's continuing poor performance but you are right, I thought that the staffer issue on Australia Day would have been a big negative but maybe most people only saw the pictures and didn't follow the issues.
It doesn't look good having Gillard dragged along with Abbott smiling in the background.

I was at the cricket last night and someone mentioned Gina which surprised me because politics is not discussed. I have read that she will probably be the richest person in the world one day and some of the things she wants are quite wrong such as a northern economic zone with special low taxation and with all the protections removed including wildlife legislation. I find her scary.

 

[joea]

I have read that she will probably be the richest person in the world one day and some of the things she wants are quite wrong such as a northern economic zone with special low taxation and with all the protections removed including wildlife legislation. I find her scary.

Knobby22.
"Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see."
Associated with any person of wealth and power, there is a bank of people who attempt to load the chamber of the gun. These people thrive on the fact that Gina may ask them for their opinion.
Look at the media's reaction to Gina buying a few shares. Read the reaction of Bob Brown and Stephen Conroy to the share purchase.
I can also assure you that if you or I made the same purchase, it would not even make the paper.
You would have see the comment of Clive Palmer. He suggests he would purchase twice the percentage of Gina. Its all happening with people getting attention to boost their ego's.
The media have not much to write about at the moment.
joea

 

[trainspotter]

Harvey Norman is doing well out of me .... I was listening to the radio in my shed and the news came on. Julia Gillard was giving a "speech" to the media scrum ........ Fair Dinkum !!! If I heard the words "HARD WORK" come out of her mouth one more time I would have burst a vessel. Instead I picked up the radio and smashed it.

1) The country is doing so well because of her Governments "HARD WORK"
2) The "HARD WORK" is not over yet and more needs to be done.
3) Due to her "HARD WORK" in the Senate we have a stable governement.
4) It will only be "HARD WORK" for her to win the next election.
5) *SMASH RADIO*

SHEEEEEEESHHHH !!! Hard work listening the b!tch I reckon !!!

 

[Eager]

One has to question the accuracy of these polls, if you read the spot polls conducted by the papers.

Be fair. Just because you don't like the results of a poll doesn't mean it is inaccurate, either way.

 

[Eager]

The media have not much to write about at the moment.
joea

I ask, genuinely - do you think the negative focus on Gillard is losing its effect, maybe it reached a saturation point but is now yesterdays news? Her tactics of hanging tough and not digging herself into any holes regarding a possible challenge from Rudd might explain the slight increase in the polls.

 

[IFocus]

There are a few reasons I can think of as to why Labors polling has risen, but the one that seems most pertinanct is Gina Reinhardt. She has scared the horses a bit and under Howard you know she would be nullified but people aren't so sure under Abbott.

Gina will be a problem for any future government that she cannot buy.

WA I believe gave the biggest donation to the federal party (wonder where that came from)hence Julie B remains 2nd in command for as long as she wants.

Either way Gina will own Abbott.

Gina is really a a great Aussie except for a few minor details like cheap Asia labor is at the top of her agenda screw the Aussie work force max out profits etc then there is the way she treats her kids.

 

[drsmith]

Can Rob Oakeshott see the writing on the wall ?

KEY independent Rob Oakeshott says he's been approached by Kevin Rudd supporters about his attitude to a possible leadership challenge to Julia Gillard.

However he said he would be “thoroughly unimpressed” should a “self-obsessed” Labor seek to change leaders.

Not as unimpressed as Andrew Wilkie over his pokie reforms me thinks.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-rudd-supporters/story-fn59niix-1226263996602

Also from the article above,

“Yeah, at different times,” Mr Oakeshott told Sky News, when asked if he had been approached by the Rudd camp.

Those "different times" are all since September last year,

Mr Oakeshott said he had not received any telephone calls from Kevin Rudd or Labor “Praetorian guards” on the leadership issue.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...loses-supporters/story-fn59niix-1226143719240

 

[JTLP]

Can Rob Oakeshott see the writing on the wall ?



Not as unimpressed as Andrew Wilkie over his pokie reforms me thinks.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-rudd-supporters/story-fn59niix-1226263996602

Also from the article above,



Those "different times" are all since September last year,



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...loses-supporters/story-fn59niix-1226143719240

Oakeshott unimpressed with a self-obsessed Labor? I must be seeing stars. The guy has to be one of the greatest pompous/self-absorbed idiots of all time. Bring on the election :freak3::freak3::freak3::freak3:

 

[drsmith]

Oakeshott unimpressed with a self-obsessed Labor? I must be seeing stars. The guy has to be one of the greatest pompous/self-absorbed idiots of all time. Bring on the election :freak3::freak3::freak3::freak3:

Andrew Wilkie is not far behind,

Along with the sole Greens lower house MP, Adam Bandt, the government is banking on the support of independents Andrew Wilkie and Rob Oakeshott in the House of Representatives to pass the PHI changes, which are expected to save $100 billion by 2050.

Both are inclined to back means-testing the rebate for individuals earning more than $80,000 and families earning more than $160,000 - with some caveats.

Mr Wilkie told AAP on Friday he wanted to examine new evidence on the likely impact of the changes before being able to confirm his support.

For Andrew Wilkie, his pokies reforms clearly was not one of those caveats.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...alth-changes-will-pass-pm-20120206-1r1hw.html

 

[Knobby22]

Gina is really a a great Aussie except for a few minor details like cheap Asia labor is at the top of her agenda screw the Aussie work force max out profits etc then there is the way she treats her kids.

I forgot about that. She wants to bring in a slave class so she can mine cheaper and make even more money. Such greed and lack of thought for her fellow Australians.

I saw a cartoon last week that said it all.
It shows a rich businessman looking out over his dominions with his son next to him and saying , "Someday son this won't be enough for you either".