The Gillard Government

[moXJO]

Current betting is almost 3 to 1 ~ $2.90 to be exact...care to better it?

http://www.iasbet.com/bet/politics/...Australian-Federal-Election-2013/14-3668.html
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Labor is in for a wipeout at next election. More bad news for them on its way this year.

 

[joea]

On a 2 party preferred vote with labor winning more of the centre than the coalition (like last election) Labor wins...i know that's not predicted at the moment, but im saying it will come to pass at the time.

Turnbull captures the centre vote, Tony doesn't...they both by default bring the right.

Well I hope the voters are looking at the team and not the individual.
It takes more than one champion player to win a football match.

" A champion team, will beat a team of champions any days."
And that is what the voter is missing.

Currently the media concentrates on the leaders. wrong! wrong! wrong!
Cheers joea

 

[Julia]

Current betting is almost 3 to 1 ~ $2.90 to be exact...care to better it?
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I never engage in that sort of betting. What I'll offer is between you and me, i.e. if you're right I'll pay you $100 and if you're wrong you pay me $100.
Other posters might like to join in.
Let me know, SC.

 

[sptrawler]

I'd put a $100 on with S_C that labor lose big time.
Kev07 has a better ring than
Julia, get stuffed, I don't give a rats what you think, I've lost my sheen 2013.
They could have the election yesterday, tomorrow, next week, next year.
The die is cast, that is why the debate is losing its zest.
Actually I wouldn't be suprised if it isn't a relative of the current goon show that is posting positive remarks. LOL
Absolutely everyone I hear talking about the government, appear very unhappy, can't understand that.
I would love to see the results of labors inhouse polling, I bet it is a real hoot.

 

[sptrawler]

Just read this article and found it interesting, even Bob has realised that unions only represent a small proportion of the labour force.
Cranking up the wages for the select few in the mining or construction industries, just pi$$es of the rest of the workers that have to take crap wages to keep a job.
It also adds to their cost of living because the general perception is everyone is on film star wages.IMO
http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-rebukes-hawke-on-unions-20120103-1pjno.html

 

[todster]

Just read this article and found it interesting, even Bob has realised that unions only represent a small proportion of the labour force.
Cranking up the wages for the select few in the mining or construction industries, just pi$$es of the rest of the workers that have to take crap wages to keep a job.
It also adds to their cost of living because the general perception is everyone is on film star wages.IMO
http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-rebukes-hawke-on-unions-20120103-1pjno.html

Easy fixed become one of the select few.
Seem to forget who else just got a nice fat rise,both sides.

 

[startrader]

News today from the Daily Telegraph:

"Jakarta confirmed people from Sri Lanka and Bangladesh would gain easier entry to Indonesia with similar changes for Pakistanis and Afghans awaiting approval.

The move, aimed at promoting diplomacy and Indonesian tourism, comes despite the four nations being listed on Indonesia's so-called "red list" due to security fears."

Relaxed visa laws for people from Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan!! I hate to think how many boats a week will be coming to Australia now. This government has to deal with this issue and STOP THE BOATS!

What an absolute farce this government is - this is way beyond a joke. They have got to go NOW!!!

 

[sptrawler]

Can't blame Indonesia, now Australia is doing onshore processing, they may as well get some money for transit visas.
They will not be refugees anymore, they will be classed as intransit tourists. Priceless just priceless.

 

[Eager]

There's a fundamental difference between the die hard Labor supporters and those of us who are so critical of the government: Labor sycophants will never, ever acknowledge any fault in the policies or personalities of their chosen side. Swinging voters and Coalition supporters, on the other hand, are prepared to see the reality of imperfections.

This is MY version of your statement, and exactly how I feel about many members here:

There's a fundamental difference between the die hard Liberal supporters and those of us who are so critical of the opposition: Liberal sycophants will never, ever acknowledge any fault in the policies or personalities of their chosen side. Swinging voters and Labor supporters, on the other hand, are prepared to see the reality of imperfections. What's the difference??????

Personally, I am disappointed that you have forgotten my admission earlier in my time here that I have swung, particularly before and after the introduction of the GST (because I recognised it not only as good policy, but true tax reform), and at a state level, about 50/50 since then.

 

[sptrawler]

This is MY version of your statement, and exactly how I feel about many members here:

There's a fundamental difference between the die hard Liberal supporters and those of us who are so critical of the opposition: Liberal sycophants will never, ever acknowledge any fault in the policies or personalities of their chosen side. Swinging voters and Labor supporters, on the other hand, are prepared to see the reality of imperfections. What's the difference??????

Personally, I am disappointed that you have forgotten my admission earlier in my time here that I have swung, particularly before and after the introduction of the GST (because I recognised it not only as good policy, but true tax reform), and at a state level, about 50/50 since then.

I think the general thrust here Eager, is that this government has been in power four years.
One can maybe forgive them for over exuberance in the first term, even though it proved a disaster and costly on many fronts.
However this second term and the carbon tax, takes it to a whole new level.
Our coal mines, which supply us with probably the only advantage we have over most our competitors, cheap electricity, are being bought out by overseas interests.
This in turn transfers this advantage to other countries.
To add insult to injury we add a tax to Australians for using the electricity produced from coal that we are buying from Indian or Chinese companies. Well that it how it is playing out in W.A.
All this to appease the Greens and Independents, so you can stay in power to secure your pension. For me it's not about which party, it's about how much your prepared to prost%t#!e yourself. My opinions only

One could claim it is for the future of mankind.
However, as Martin Fergusun stated recently, if new technology isn't available to replace the coal fired generation we will continue using it. If this fails the fall back position is nuclear.

 

[So_Cynical]

I never engage in that sort of betting. What I'll offer is between you and me, i.e. if you're right I'll pay you $100 and if you're wrong you pay me $100.
Other posters might like to join in.
Let me know, SC.

I can get almost 3/1 from the bookies...id be a mug punter to take your money at your odds.

 

[sptrawler]

I can get almost 3/1 from the bookies...id be a mug punter to take your money at your odds.

Well I am not sure how many more mug punters will vote for a whipping.LOL
Been around long enough to know you can never call it.

Just one catchy line can get them over the line. It's a bit like lemmings.

 

[Julia]

This is MY version of your statement, and exactly how I feel about many members here:

There's a fundamental difference between the die hard Liberal supporters and those of us who are so critical of the opposition: Liberal sycophants will never, ever acknowledge any fault in the policies or personalities of their chosen side. Swinging voters and Labor supporters, on the other hand, are prepared to see the reality of imperfections. What's the difference??????

Fair enough, Eager. It's just perhaps that there seem to be no ASF members who, if favouring the Left, are not die hard supporters, unwilling to accept the failings of their side.
Knobby is one who often seems able to acknowledge the achievements and failures of both sides.

Personally, I am disappointed that you have forgotten my admission earlier in my time here that I have swung, particularly before and after the introduction of the GST (because I recognised it not only as good policy, but true tax reform), and at a state level, about 50/50 since then.

Well, I'm very sorry if I have overlooked some particular thing you have said. The site has thousands of posters and sadly my memory is not up to storing every comment from all of them.
However, thank you for repeating your stance. Good to hear.

Perhaps your more recent ardent defence of the government has made more of an impression on me than your past approval of the GST.

I can get almost 3/1 from the bookies...id be a mug punter to take your money at your odds.

Hah, I thought you wouldn't be up for a simple bet. Different story when asked to put your money where your mouth is huh!

 

[dutchie]

Rumour going round that, while he was filming PM interview at cricket, Joe The Cameraman whispered - "Can't bowl, can't bat, can't govern"

 

[So_Cynical]

Rumour going round that, while he was filming PM interview at cricket, Joe The Cameraman whispered - "Can't bowl, can't bat, can't govern"

While we are on the subject of PM's that cant bowl etc.
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[noco]

While we are on the subject of PM's that cant bowl etc.
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Clap! Clap! Clap! At least he had a go.

I'd like to see the red headed long nose wombat with a basket ball. LOL.

 

[Knobby22]

While we are on the subject of PM's that cant bowl etc.
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That's the sweet side of the man. What a cricket tragic!

He had seen it done so much in real life and on TV he thought he had a clue.
It was said he agonised over the annual Prime Minster 11 game as he had to pick the Australian team.

I think all our prime ministers have had a good heart (even Keating). If you look at them compared to what other countries have had, like Silvio Berlosconi and Dick Cheney you can see we are the lucky country.

 

[Logique]

..I think all our prime ministers have had a good heart (even Keating). If you look at them compared to what other countries have had, like Silvio Berlosconi and Dick Cheney you can see we are the lucky country..

I think this is a current dilemma in Australian politics.

To me, with the Leader of the Greens, I don't know what planet he is on, and many of his followers. With the PM, of late she has given me pause, some of the policies seem just plain malevolent toward everyday Australians. Appearing at the SCG wearing a pink hat is fine, but look at the broader policy framework.

And making an attempt at balance, the new Speaker, ex Coalition member, probably raises questions in Labor minds.

 

[noco]

I had to blink my eyes several times and shake my head to make sure what I was reading in the link below was true.

Is there a rumble down under occurring between the Greens and the Labor party?

I don't think Martin Ferguson is any great fan of the Greens. Bob Brown has certainly expressed his displeasure at the Lablor Party's action.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...tor-green-groups/story-e6freonf-1226238675002

 

[Logique]

I've heard Martin Ferguson described as the only grown up in the government.
Also heard recently that Canada and NZ are stripping Greenpeace of tax free status, on the basis of being a political organization.