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joea said:
No.
I just think industrial relation is going to be the focus point prior to the next election.
Somebody is going to have to fix a lot of stuff ups.
joea
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Yes, maybe Tony Sheldon can take Julia out to dinner and explain that the world doesn't rotate around the same industrial axis it did 20 years ago.
I doubt she would listen.
 
Quite funny at the moment, the asylum seeker issue is just highlighting Bob is running the country.
Julia is the prime minister who can get through any legislation the greens want.
So it's a minority government that is operating for the minority partner.LOL, LOL
 
It's all mumbo jumbo, I know.

http://www.astrology-reading.com.au/Australia_Horoscope_Predictions_Rectification.html
Astrology Predictions for Australia 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

"Australia is in danger of finding itself overwhelmed by a massive immigration flood, including thousands of boat-people. This also suggests serious financial times for Australia, possibly a credit squeeze or a very serious recession and unemployment becoming a serious problem. Property prices (Saturn) could crash."

"Yet another Australian Prime Minister will fall from power between mid-2011 and late 2012."

"If Gillard somehow survives 2011 as prime minister, she will not survive January-mid March 2012. During this whole time, transiting Saturn will be very closely conjunct (0 degrees) to her Mars. This very same combination ended Kevin Rudd's prime ministership! All Gillard's intentions will be met with restistance, where events will occur beyond her personal control. She will be brought to her knees, as Rudd was."

"PM Julia Gillard’s horoscope has some telling astrological aspects, in particular her ruthless eradication of rivals."
 
Logique said:
It's all mumbo jumbo, I know.

http://www.astrology-reading.com.au/Australia_Horoscope_Predictions_Rectification.html
Astrology Predictions for Australia 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

"Australia is in danger of finding itself overwhelmed by a massive immigration flood, including thousands of boat-people. This also suggests serious financial times for Australia, possibly a credit squeeze or a very serious recession and unemployment becoming a serious problem. Property prices (Saturn) could crash."

"Yet another Australian Prime Minister will fall from power between mid-2011 and late 2012."

"If Gillard somehow survives 2011 as prime minister, she will not survive January-mid March 2012. During this whole time, transiting Saturn will be very closely conjunct (0 degrees) to her Mars. This very same combination ended Kevin Rudd's prime ministership! All Gillard's intentions will be met with restistance, where events will occur beyond her personal control. She will be brought to her knees, as Rudd was."

"PM Julia Gillard’s horoscope has some telling astrological aspects, in particular her ruthless eradication of rivals."
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Thanks for that Logique - very interesting predicitions! I wouldn't be surprised if this fellow is right about Gillard being forced to resign before March 2012. He also says that some scandal may well bring down the government. So hope he is right about that!
 
I think 'the chickens will come home to roost' in 2012.
Gross incompetence in the first term of office, pandering to minor parties in the second term, is going to be reflected in cost of living rises in 2012.
Even if China keeps 'pumping' , the loss of confidence in the electorate is causing huge problems.
The penny will drop with workers that the harder they push the more they lose. Salary sacrifice has been dropped to non existent, pension age increased, marginal tax rates increased(with the carbon tax).
The economy will stall IMO.
I don't think there has been a time in the last 40 years, where the economy has been on such a knife edge. The crazy part is, it is self inflicted.
Remove the incentive to push hard and everyone backs off.
Like has been posted before on numerous occasions, labor strip out incentive, well labor and the greens will do it in half the time.LOL
The one thing for sure is workers in their 40's really need to sit down and have a think where it is all going. IMO
 
sptrawler said:
I think 'the chickens will come home to roost' in 2012.
Gross incompetence in the first term of office, pandering to minor parties in the second term, is going to be reflected in cost of living rises in 2012.
Even if China keeps 'pumping' , the loss of confidence in the electorate is causing huge problems.
The penny will drop with workers that the harder they push the more they lose. Salary sacrifice has been dropped to non existent, pension age increased, marginal tax rates increased(with the carbon tax).
The economy will stall IMO.
I don't think there has been a time in the last 40 years, where the economy has been on such a knife edge. The crazy part is, it is self inflicted.
Remove the incentive to push hard and everyone backs off.
Like has been posted before on numerous occasions, labor strip out incentive, well labor and the greens will do it in half the time.LOL
The one thing for sure is workers in their 40's really need to sit down and have a think where it is all going. IMO
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"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan. :rolleyes:

IMO, there is greater chance of the chickens coming home to roost if conservative voters continue to talk down the economy and instil fear. Maybe they should be tried for treason.
 
Eager said:
IMO, there is greater chance of the chickens coming home to roost if conservative voters continue to talk down the economy and instil fear. Maybe they should be tried for treason.
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Yes we should be tried for treason straight after the government.
The government that wasn't voted in by the majority, therefore don't have a mandate.
Which implements policies they categorically said they wouldn't.
I'll stop bagging the government when it is elected fair and square.:D
Believe it or not it is not the conservatives talking down the economy, it is a general lack of faith in the governments ability that is causing consumer concern.
 
Hi.
Well I have been trying to work out how Labor is compiling its policy's and, it's some what crazy logic.

I honestly believe they are following the script of "Yes Minister".

Its the only solution I can come up with.
joea
 
sptrawler said:
Yes we should be tried for treason straight after the government.
The government that wasn't voted in by the majority, therefore don't have a mandate.
Which implements policies they categorically said they wouldn't.
I'll stop bagging the government when it is elected fair and square.:D
Believe it or not it is not the conservatives talking down the economy, it is a general lack of faith in the governments ability that is causing consumer concern.
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+1.
Eager, whilst I appreciate the devotion of your political bias, you do your own intelligence a disservice if you do not appreciate the woeful incompetence of this government.
Just as one example, consider the essentially unanimous view of the business community that they have no confidence in the government.

It's hardly surprising when you consider that few, if any, government politicians have any experience in business. They are mostly Labor apparatchiks, often lawyers by training or just as commonly, union heavyweights.

The electorate is not stupid. Tony Abbott would not be able to "talk down" a flourishing economy: the public wouldn't stand for it.
 
sptrawler said:
Yes we should be tried for treason straight after the government.
The government that wasn't voted in by the majority, therefore don't have a mandate.
Which implements policies they categorically said they wouldn't.
I'll stop bagging the government when it is elected fair and square.:D
Believe it or not it is not the conservatives talking down the economy, it is a general lack of faith in the governments ability that is causing consumer concern.
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Yes and I agree whole heartedly with what you say. This is by far the worst government I have seen in 60 years. Unfortuneately we may have to suffer their incompetence for a lot longer yet unless of course some major scandal brings them unstuck.
 
Eager said:
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan. :rolleyes:
IMO, there is greater chance of the chickens coming home to roost if conservative voters continue to talk down the economy and instil fear. Maybe they should be tried for treason.
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Eager, Labor/Greens wouldn't talk anything down or instil fear would they. Such as the climate.
 
sptrawler said:
The government that wasn't voted in by the majority, therefore don't have a mandate.
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That is a silly statement. It is blatantly obvious that NEITHER side had a clear electoral mandate. Yes, it is questionable whether the gov't now have a legitimate mandate or not because of the carbon tax lie, but that is a different issue, and not what you were alluding to! I think you have confused the two.

Are you advocating a 2 party, first-past-the-post voting system? If you are, you'd then probably still want a gerrymander system when things don't go your way. :rolleyes:

Current policies notwithstanding, I think your problem is with the independants who gave power to the gov't in the first place. Maybe the real problem is with Abbott who couldn't woo them because of his party's political emptiness, which is the same reason that the MAJORITY of Australians did NOT vote for the coalition. Maybe you'd like to see the banning of independants except if they side with the coalition? That's not very democratic though is it.

Special instructions for those that hate democracy when it doesn't go their way:
(1) Go to Bunnings,
(2) Buy some timber,
(3) Build a friggin' bridge fergawsake!!!!
 

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