The Gillard Government

[bellenuit]

Your left wing bias shows. Here are the facts;

Don't confuse bias with a bad memory. I am surprised that anyone would categorise me as left wing based on my posts on ASF.

 

[Julia]

That's a very interesting post and though I would regard myself as centrist, but leaning a bit to the conservative side, I would't agree with every item.

No, neither would I. I posted it as being broadly representative of the difference between the Labor nanny state and the Conservative philosophy of encouraging individuals to take responsibility for their own outcomes. I think it largely does this.

John Howard outlawed most guns

I think here we need to recognise the difference between a fundamental philosophy and a political reaction. There was so much public outrage about the Port Arthur massacre, the government simply had to be seen to do something. Hence the gun buy back.

I doubt very much that - without the Port Arthur thing - any such policy would have been instituted.

Weren't some of the most vocal homophobes in America outed as being closet homosexuals. For example - evangelical pastor Ted Haggard. Except he wanted homosexuality outlawed, not legalised.

Don't know about anything in America.
The current debate about e.g. gay marriage here imo lends credibility to what the posted piece said on homosexuals.

I can't remember the guys name, but wasn't it a Liberal MP or Senator that sued some bicycle rental shop in Canberra after he fell off a rental bike near parliament and received some minor injuries, even though the store owner had warned him that he was too heavy for the bike. I am going back perhaps 15 years or more.

Since clarified. (I was surprised at the accusation of your having a left bias, bellenuit. Have always found most of your observations to be intelligently centrist.)

 

[Calliope]

Since clarified. (I was surprised at the accusation of your having a left bias, bellenuit. Have always found most of your observations to be intelligently centrist.)

Would she have made an a false accusation against a Labor member, and then blamed the mistake on bad memory? I don't think so. It took me less than a minute to research the facts. Hardly "intelligently centrist"

 

[bellenuit]

Would she have made an a false accusation against a Labor member, and then blamed the mistake on bad memory? I don't think so. It took me less than a minute to research the facts. Hardly "intelligently centrist"

Gee, Calliope, chill out. It wasn't an issue of such great import that warranted research. It was just a mistake and phrased to indicate I wasn't fully sure.

I can't remember the guys name, but wasn't it a Liberal MP or Senator that sued some bicycle rental shop in Canberra after he fell off a rental bike near parliament and received some minor injuries, even though the store owner had warned him that he was too heavy for the bike. I am going back perhaps 15 years or more.

If you are talking about research, wouldn't it have been more appropriate for you to research my previous posts before categorising me as having a leftist bias, rather than basing it on one error in one post.

 

[noco]

If Gillard does do a reshuffle of cabinet, it will be interesting to see if Kevin11 stays foreign minister!

She might punish him for leaking and send him to the back bench. If that is the case GG might be right. Kevin may resign.



http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/a_reshuflle/

 

[Calliope]

Gee, Calliope, chill out. It wasn't an issue of such great import that warranted research. It was just a mistake and phrased to indicate I wasn't fully sure.

Don't you think it would have been smarter to do a little research on an issue you weren't sure about rather than make a nonsense accusation. Or perhaps you were just following your instincts to rebut any criticism of the left, which was what your post was all about.

 

[wayneL]

Perhaps Calliope is showing his right wing bias by making such a big deal about it.

 

[todster]

Perhaps Calliope is showing his right wing bias by making such a big deal about it.

Right wing bias is accepted,encouraged and rampant with the ASF silver set.

 

[Calliope]

Perhaps Calliope is showing his right wing bias by making such a big deal about it.

Perhaps.:dunno: But I also have a bias against spreading mis-information when the facts are so easily ascertained. If pointing this out is considered a big deal then so be it.

 

[Logique]

If Gillard does do a reshuffle of cabinet, it will be interesting to see if Kevin11 stays foreign minister!
She might punish him for leaking and send him to the back bench. If that is the case GG might be right. Kevin may resign. http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/a_reshuflle/

Perhaps they'll put Andrew Wilkie on Ignore. Love to see them call Rudd's bluff and reshuffle him out of Foreign Affairs, but unlikely.

 

[sptrawler]

It's all good and well for labor to be getting on Kevs case.
However, from polls he is one of the only ones that will keep his seat at the next election.
You never know, he may become leader of the labor party again, due to him being the only one left standing. LOL, LOL, LOL
Many a true word has been spoken in jest.
I tend to think labor will be smashed, the public has made up its mind, they have just moved on and aren't listening. They have battened down the hatches, made a mental survival plan and will just weather the storm till the next election.
Records will be rewritten in the next election, IMO.
The best thing Gillard could have done was call an election, after forming the minority government became a sticky mess.
Instead pandering to Bob and the Independents has just turned everything pear shaped for labor.

 

[sptrawler]

Right wing bias is accepted,encouraged and rampant with the ASF silver set.

Yeh, well you you get that when all the losers get together to form government. LOL

We are all trying to ensure there is a place for you to move into after your working career ends.
Actually if these goons stay in office, your working career won't end. LOL LOL cough LOL
Just love your passion, keep it up, look forward to your posts in 20years.

 

[todster]

Yeh, well you you get that when all the losers get together to form government. LOL

We are all trying to ensure there is a place for you to move into after your working career ends.
Actually if these goons stay in office, your working career won't end. LOL LOL cough LOL
Just love your passion, keep it up, look forward to your posts in 20years.

You should see someone about that cough

 

[sptrawler]

I keep dislodging my false teeth, when a young bloke cracks me up

 

[sptrawler]

Actually to extrapolate on that todster, they are having riots in U.K and Europe, because they are trying to lift the pension age to 67.
These goons have brought it in for your age group, without a murmur.
Not only that, they have reduced what you can put in super, to make sure you can't get out early.
Thats from the worlds greatest treasurer and the worlds strongest economy, with the worlds most apathetic population with the worlds smallest gonads. LOL LOL cough LOL.
There go my teeth again.

 

[Julia]

The best thing Gillard could have done was call an election, after forming the minority government became a sticky mess.
Instead pandering to Bob and the Independents has just turned everything pear shaped for labor.

Yes, I agree. Then she would have had some legitimacy and authority instead of widely being seen as the puppet of the Greens.

You should see someone about that cough

Pretty funny, todster.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes, I agree. Then she would have had some legitimacy and authority instead of widely being seen as the puppet of the Greens.


Pretty funny, todster.

Actually Julia, I think a lot of labor voters will just cut out the middle man(labor) at the next election and vote greens instead.
Also from the way Bob distanced himself from the pay rise, saying the greens didn't agree with it. I would say Bob is hoping to pick up a lot of the swing from labor.
Agree with you also re todster, he's a hoot. Good to see posters that can give and take with humour, adds a lot to dull subjects.

 

[joea]

Actually Julia, I think a lot of labor voters will just cut out the middle man(labor) at the next election and vote greens instead.
Also from the way Bob distanced himself from the pay rise, saying the greens didn't agree with it. I would say Bob is hoping to pick up a lot of the swing from labor.
Agree with you also re todster, he's a hoot. Good to see posters that can give and take with humour, adds a lot to dull subjects.

I agree.
I do not think the average voter understands Bob Brown.
Bob want's to continue to pick at the policy's of both parties to enhance his own standing at the next election. As he weakens them, he strengthens his own power base. After all he has no where near as much work to do as the two major parties.

He will be happy with control of both houses. He will be working to continue that control.

There is no doubt he has a "seat" figure he is pushing for in the next Federal election.
The greens will be quietly going about their work in the seats where the opportunity for them will be to increase their numbers.
Eventually some of the voters may wake up!!!
Qld state election may provide some of the answers, as a guide to the next Federal one.
joea

 

[sptrawler]

Well this is a turn up, Bob and Julia thought the Australian was the problem.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/police-search-the-age-offices-20111215-1ovmu.html

I guess everyone dislikes them, just some disguise it better.
Not to worry, here's 30% to make you feel better.LOL

 

[Calliope]

Poor Rudolph. Will he ever take the lead again? Ho Ho Ho.