Tisme
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The Greens have announced that they will build a solar powered railway line around the Australian girt.
They are currently unaware where the funds to build it will come from, but Mr Di Natale has announced that he will be planting a number of money trees in his backyard.
Greens advocating cannabis on the basis that criminal networks will be hamstrung. Sales would be through retail outlets, the product in plain packaging and trained professionals giving over the counter advice and screening.
So if the retailer won't sell guess where users will go .......
And with all these things, the ratchet principal applies i.e. ice moves down as the first order poison which the predisposed then consider a more acceptable risk.
I'm fairly sure the thrill of doing something sneaky and naughty is a significant driver in drug use and just as with group smoking on the sidewalk, the camaraderie is addictive too.
the only way to know this is to hold a substantial participated placebo controlled double blind study that would require a very long time period as there are already clear signs of lung disease (from smoking only) and cognitive decline and (time dependent) addiction based on long term use and the study, of course, the time period and the study themselves cannot be neutral due to the other factors that contaminate the data, hence a correct clinical study needs to be doneDisappointed, I came on to ASF specifically for a laugh at your comments on this matter Tisme but you have remained relatively restrained. Incorrect but surprisingly restrained.
Lets pretend that we are the first country ever to run the experiment of legalising weed. Lets say it runs for 10 years. What variables would you (or anyone else) like to test and what would it take for you to conclude that legalising weed does have its draw backs but overall it is a net benefit to society and it should remain legal for the next 10 years
The argument seems to be "alcohol causes more deaths and that's legal".
So we add more deaths or psychoses without doing anything about the alcohol problem.
There is a place for medical cannabis, but not general use imo.
Disappointed, I came on to ASF specifically for a laugh at your comments on this matter Tisme but you have remained relatively restrained. Incorrect but surprisingly restrained.
Lets pretend that we are the first country ever to run the experiment of legalising weed. Lets say it runs for 10 years. What variables would you (or anyone else) like to test and what would it take for you to conclude that legalising weed does have its draw backs but overall it is a net benefit to society and it should remain legal for the next 10 years
Let's put the Codeine back on the shelves first imo.
Greens advocating cannabis on the basis that criminal networks will be hamstrung...
...I'm fairly sure the thrill of doing something sneaky and naughty is a significant driver in drug use and just as with group smoking on the sidewalk, the camaraderie is addictive too.
the only way to know this is to hold a substantial participated placebo controlled double blind study that would require a very long time period as there are already clear signs of lung disease (from smoking only) and cognitive decline and (time dependent) addiction based on long term use and the study, of course, the time period and the study themselves cannot be neutral due to the other factors that contaminate the data, hence a correct clinical study needs to be done
everything else is subjective jibberjabber
a starting point for
peer reviewed studies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4827335/
You'd have to up your game if you think your opening sentence even resembles a flame.
On the basis you are close minded trolling I won't bother responding until you prove you are wearing long trousers.
I do appreciate you are trying to get a "I was thrashed by Tisme" accolades, but you need to give me more to go on, rather than made up fantastic net benefits.
I had morphine once ..... very effective at pain relief.
Re:morphine. I would wonder how many chemists or doctors would know about this. Such important research findings and yet virutally unheard of.
I cannot say this with out it sounding like another failed attempt at trolling, but I legit checked out ASF for the reason I out lined above. Surely someone as wise as yourself must realise that some tree hugging hippies like myself find your posts hilarious?
I think most of us have a sense of that and why the general lack of sympathy for addicts crying foul.
Well I can either take that as meaning you have an appreciation of irony posts (something that eludes many), or you are trying to mock me; the latter being hard to take seriously when brain damage due to drug dependency is involved in the eqtn.
I'll give you the benefit of the former, coz I am not anything if I'm not empathetic.
A little of column A - A little from column B
And you are most likely correct as usual, I probably have sustained some kind of impairment due to my choice of recreational actives in my teens and early twenties. Oh well damage is done now, might as well indulge once or twice a year when I feel the urge.
Bringing it back to my original post, were there detrimental side effects due to my choice of recreational activities, most likely. Do I regret it, nope. For me the pros out weighed the cons. Each to their own!!!!
Truth is you probably aren't firing all cylinders if you have damaged it with THCs etc. Perhaps your early lead has been closed a bit or even pushed back to the pack?
I think the idea of the video is that people who use, use for a reason. They are self-medicating for psychic pain (poor parenting, abuse, neglect etc). The other point was that given a good upbringing and social network, there'd be no need for it - no need in a purely chemical sense. I think it was one of the most amazing pieces of research I've ever seen, given the scourge of drug use in Australia.
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