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Miss Hale · 13 April 2012

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Knobby22 said:
He is getting old and doesn't want to contest the next election. Fair enough.

Yes, and because of this I'm not that surprised. I expected he would resign in the not too distant future wasn't sure when of course.

Also, apart from his alien comments , I thought that lately he looked and sounded quite old all of a sudden and didn't see as sharp in interviews etc.

And the Greens will miss him terribly. He was a true Green in that he was on about the environment and generally pushed against his increasingly socialist base of the party.

Without him at the helm they will push socialism harder and I predict will lose massive support as a result. This is what happened to the Democrats under Natasha Party Destroyer.

I didn't always agree with Bob but as an honest person with clear priorities I always thought he was a good guy and respected him

Said my bit, you can go back to making glib comments.

Yes, they will miss him and I don't think they will have anywhere near the success they have had without him (fortunately IMO).

drsmith · 13 April 2012

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bellenuit said:
At least he behaved like an adult........

Martin Ferguson might disagree with that.

Julia · 13 April 2012

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Knobby22 said:
He is getting old and doesn't want to contest the next election. Fair enough.

Yes, and perhaps his mental acuity has been deteriorating (viz recent nutty ramblings) and he is being sensible enough to know when to go.

And the Greens will miss him terribly. He was a true Green in that he was on about the environment and generally pushed against his increasingly socialist base of the party.

Without him at the helm they will push socialism harder and I predict will lose massive support as a result. This is what happened to the Democrats under Natasha Party Destroyer.

Agree. He had a level of charisma to Greens voters which is completely lacking in the shrill, combative Christine Milne.
In some ways, Bob Brown was the consummate politician with his calm manner often obscuring the wackiness of his policies.

drsmith said:
The following assessment is an interesting read.

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com...ments/fellow_earthians_the_planet_will_go_on/

That's an astute comment from Chris Kenny, especially this:

In the end Brown’s political career must be judged on how he has impeded economic progress rather than how he has enlivened a fringe protest movement.

OzWaveGuy · 13 April 2012

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Knobby22 said:
He is getting old and doesn't want to contest the next election. Fair enough.

And the Greens will miss him terribly. He was a true Green in that he was on about the environment and generally pushed against his increasingly socialist base of the party.

lol, lapping from the "Green" bowl again Knobby. Good to see people such as this leave, especially when they openly admit using the "environmental" crusade to push a socialist world government.

If you really believe in this man, then North Korea must be your utopia.

Calliope · 13 April 2012

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Miss Hale said:
Also, apart from his alien comments , I thought that lately he looked and sounded quite old all of a sudden and didn't see as sharp in interviews etc.

Dementia probably. His partner probably put pressure on him to go before he made a complete fool of himself. I think he will now be in seclusion.

Miss Hale · 13 April 2012

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Calliope said:
Dementia probably. His partner probably put pressure on him to go before he made a complete fool of himself. I think he will now be in seclusion.

I did wonder that, there was one interview where he seemed to be struggling a bit to find the right words.

noco · 13 April 2012

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OzWaveGuy said:
lol, lapping from the "Green" bowl again Knobby. Good to see people such as this leave, especially when they openly admit using the "environmental" crusade to push a socialist world government.

If you really believe in this man, then North Korea must be your utopia.

Brown has been cunning with his enviromental issues to suck in the younger generation when all along he has had this hidden agenda for socialism as you say OWG.

macca · 13 April 2012

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While I am not a green supporter I do agree with the comments that he has seemed to be struggling of late, I thought it quite noticeable in the past few months.

I don't agree with his politics but he is/was a clever politician, I do believe it will be like Don Chipp and the Democrats, the Greens will now self implode.

The QLD election was their first step backwards, the CO2 tax will wipe them out at the next federal election IMO

iRod · 13 April 2012

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Brown stepping down, Assange says he wants to enter politics? mmm... just a coincidence? BB did say he was welcomed to join the Greens, didn't he?? And Carr set the precedent for an outsider to enter the Senate. You read it here first folks!

Nevertheless, last federal election both the Libs & Labor gave their preferences to the Greens.... oops... they won't do that again. Maybe Brownie realises the Greens have peaked & he can bow out now gracefully.

joea · 13 April 2012

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Well I reckon Sarah-Hanson-Young's bottom lip has been dragging on the ground since the resignation. She will need some savlon on that tonight. Should be OK by Monday.
She has been passed over for deputy.
Wonder why? Oops that's right, she challenged Milne for her job.(I think!)

Well get ready for a Green campaign from the new leader every time a camera is pointed at her.
The one comment I can make is, that Bob was generally well composed in front of the Media. Plenty of practice I guess.
joea

Miss Hale · 13 April 2012

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joea said:
Well I reckon Sarah-Hanson-Young's bottom lip has been dragging on the ground since the resignation. She will need some savlon on that tonight. Should be OK by Monday.
She has been passed over for deputy.

Who is to be Milne's deputy?

StumpyPhantom · 13 April 2012

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Calliope said:
Thanks for your permission Knobby. One consolation of Brown's departure is that Christine Milne and Sarah Hanson-Young hate each other guts. With a bit of luck they will destroy themselves and their party.
Perhaps Lee Rhiannon the Stalinist, will institute a purge.:twak:

Yeah! I'm salivating at this prospect. The last time a minor party had a little henfight (remember Cheryl, Natasha etc?), it precipitated total disintegration only a handful of years later.

Now that Christine Milne is in the spotlight, I think another factor leading to disintegration will be at play.

If the public don't like Gillard's manners, they're going to despise Milne. So Julia's going to end up joining Christine, Sarah and Lee in the dogfight. Nobody wins this one, except maybe if you're a bloke and your name is Tony or maybe Tim (who may enjoy watching)!

wayneL · 13 April 2012

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Knobby22 said:
...you can go back to making glib comments.

Good riddance. :

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Just youtubed Christine Milne. The Greens are screwed as per noted similarities with the Australian Dumbocrats.

moXJO · 13 April 2012

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wayneL said:
Good riddance. :

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You beat me to it.

joea · 13 April 2012

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Miss Hale said:
Who is to be Milne's deputy?

Adam Bandt
I think he maybe in to stop infighting between NSW and Tasmania.
joea

Logique · 13 April 2012

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drsmith said:
..The following assessment is an interesting read..
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com...ments/fellow_earthians_the_planet_will_go_on/

Essentially correct from Chris Kenny. They won't have the same cut-through without him.

explod · 13 April 2012

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explod said:
Youth, young families and particularly education are far and above some of the most important aspects of our constitution and actions. And the issues go on across the spectrum as required for complete and proper governance.

You completely ignore my statement that Bob Brown is but a small cog in the workings of the greens today. And that is as it should be, time and age takes us all from the stage and the new generation and its more educated and technically savvy younger ones take us forward hopefully to an improved world.

Anyone can dig and find a quote to suit a purpose but time and context makes it superfluous.

Have another drink.

Posted a few days back.

He has done what we all with the wisdom of our experience and age do, hand over the reins.

Having done his job remarkably well and sown the seeds of immortality by his outstanding example he will inspire generations to come. Abbot spare me, who could only say on the telly tonight "I think the Greens are in for a turbulent time" what a waste of space, you badly need a new leader in the Libs.

It is a good day (Friday the 13th) of hope for the future. And I am certain that in retirement his influence will continue to shape a better world.

explod · 13 April 2012

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wayneL said:
Good riddance. :

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Just youtubed Christine Milne. The Greens are screwed as per noted similarities with the Australian Dumbocrats.

Why,? and give us some substance.

wayneL · 13 April 2012

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explod said:
Why,? and give us some substance.

Knobby specifically requested glib comment. Gettest thou a dictionary.

IFocus · 13 April 2012

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Knobby22 said:
He is getting old and doesn't want to contest the next election. Fair enough.

And the Greens will miss him terribly. He was a true Green in that he was on about the environment and generally pushed against his increasingly socialist base of the party.

Without him at the helm they will push socialism harder and I predict will lose massive support as a result. This is what happened to the Democrats under Natasha Party Destroyer.

I didn't always agree with Bob but as an honest person with clear priorities I always thought he was a good guy and respected him

Said my bit, you can go back to making glib comments.

Bob was a polarizing figure for the simple fact that he was with out doubt that at any level personal or other wise the only honest and credible politician in any parliament in Australia who practiced what he preached.

As a result the viper vitriol poured forth from all those who could never rise to the same level..............no body.

Given the small political base clearly Brown had the biggest impact of any politician in recent Australian history and out politic-ted both sides of the parliament with ease.

The Australian political landscape will be far poorer for his retirement.

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