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Is it only me? Or has Fairfax cut back on the Abbott bashing, I've noticed their webpapers aren't full of anti Abbott hate articles.

Wow, maybe Fairfax has realised, we are all in the same fiscal mess.

It doesn't matter who is in office, the problems are the same.:D
 
sptrawler said:
Is it only me? Or has Fairfax cut back on the Abbott bashing, I've noticed their webpapers aren't full of anti Abbott hate articles.

Wow, maybe Fairfax has realised, we are all in the same fiscal mess.

It doesn't matter who is in office, the problems are the same.:D
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No, they are trying to incorporate it into other articles not necessary to do with politics. Blaming the Abbott govt over the Bali executions, Indonesia ties (damned if Australia is too hard or soft, yet asking for both at the same time) housing, environment, in fact anything they can smear the current govt over. They are just ducking for cover after one of their employees jumped on the ANZAC abuse wagon with that other dkhead from sbs.
That rag will never run out of hate.
 
The interest rate cut must be a continuing sign of an economy in decline ... well according to Joe Hockey's expert opinion back in the days of Wayne Swan treasurer. :rolleyes:

I still reckon the best litmus test of good economic governance is to ask the questions of oneself

"would you have them running your corporation?"
and
"do you let voting bias get in the way of employing the best for the company?".
 
Tisme said:
I still reckon the best litmus test of good economic governance is to ask the questions of oneself

"would you have them running your corporation?"
and
"do you let voting bias get in the way of employing the best for the company?".
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Agreed in part and I grant we're talking economics here but there's a lot more to running a country like a company isn't there?

I'm fairly certain most companies don't have armed forces and the general populace to deal with. Nor are they the makers of the nations rules and regs, have a national health system, social services etc, etc. Makes me wonder though, would any of the top 50 boards do any better at running this great land of ours?

For us Aussies at present neither side of politics seem to have the "goods" but I'd agree with Tisme that based on said litmus test, as unpopular as they may be TA's mob appears to be pick of the bunch and are doing a credible job against some very stiff head winds.
 
The new pension tests are Ok as far as they go and I know we have to save money.
It really goes for the middle class though and I bet that limit of $823,000 (from $1.15 mil) won't go up every year with inflation.
They say it will affect 235,000 people badly but it will be the long term affect that will reduce the money spend overall especially with the sharper dropping off of the part pension.
 
Tisme said:
I still reckon the best litmus test of good economic governance is to ask the questions of oneself

"would you have them running your corporation?"
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We live in a society, the economy being just one part of that but it's by no means the whole show.

Economic management is part of what a government needs to get right, an important part, but that's not the only thing they need to do by any means. :2twocents
 
In the UK election, the Conservatives smashed Labour, and are just 10 seats away from governing in their own right. This had not been predicted by the opinion polls.

Economically at least, this is a good outcome.
 
THE golden era of dirt cheap internet shopping, streaming and downloading appears to be over.
This is especially bad news for our nation of binge-watchers, with the government set to slap the goods and services tax (GST) on streaming services, such as Netflix.
The Australian reported on Monday that Cabinet ministers had killed off the policy, over fears that it would be seen as a “naked grab for more money”, but Fairfax reports this morning that the “Netflix tax” will be included in Tuesday’s Federal Budget.
Customers are set to pay 10 per cent more for movies, music, e-books and software provided by overseas companies online, with the Abbott Government set to extend the GST to these “intangible” products. Currently, the tax only applies to imported parcels worth more than $1000.
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http://www.news.com.au/technology/h...online-purchases/story-fn8tnfhb-1227341594378

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: I just got Netflix this month. An extra $1.50 per month on my subscription. How will I ever survive ??
 
trainspotter said:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/h...online-purchases/story-fn8tnfhb-1227341594378

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: I just got Netflix this month. An extra $1.50 per month on my subscription. How will I ever survive ??
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In principle I support it, but the regulation to enforce it will be interesting. I can see it generating a lot of red tape.

With netflix, what happens if a person just signs up for Netflix USA. Roughly 200K worth of Aussies have already done this. Will the threat of GST just encourage them to drop their aussie subscription and get a USA or UK based one instead?

I've often thought adding a 5% tax on all forex credit card transactions might be the way to go. Certainly cheaper than the alternatives of lowering the $1000 limit, and it might help to encourage more local shopping and holidays.

Or why not just a small tobin tax on all financial transactions?
 
Logique said:
In the UK election, the Conservatives smashed Labour, and are just 10 seats away from governing in their own right. This had not been predicted by the opinion polls.

Economically at least, this is a good outcome.
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Also good news for the Abbott government.....I believe the trend will extend to Aus....Shorten does not stand for anything good ATM.
 
noco said:
Also good news for the Abbott government.....I believe the trend will extend to Aus....Shorten does not stand for anything good ATM.
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I can't see that the UK result will have any influence on Australian politics, but I agree about Shorten.

He is totally uninspiring as an alternative PM. Labor need to move on.
 
sydboy007 said:
In principle I support it, but the regulation to enforce it will be interesting. I can see it generating a lot of red tape.

With netflix, what happens if a person just signs up for Netflix USA. Roughly 200K worth of Aussies have already done this. Will the threat of GST just encourage them to drop their aussie subscription and get a USA or UK based one instead?

I've often thought adding a 5% tax on all forex credit card transactions might be the way to go. Certainly cheaper than the alternatives of lowering the $1000 limit, and it might help to encourage more local shopping and holidays.

Or why not just a small tobin tax on all financial transactions?
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I read somewhere that Netflix Oz is effectively NetflixLite because of lockout deals with local cable/tellie providers not to show certain programs.

Red tape is how the Labor Party create jobs through PS, QANGOS and NGOs.....a tax payer funded, high wage, high super, but nonetheless non productive policy that keeps paper pushers off the street. It seems the Libs might be going down the same street by stealth.
 
noco said:
Also good news for the Abbott government.....I believe the trend will extend to Aus....Shorten does not stand for anything good ATM.
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I don't know ... Cameron is articulate, passionate and a professional politician. He doesn't seem to display the heart filled contemptible hate that Abbott and his compatriots have for others not inAbbott's clique. UK parliament retains the old skool maturity/politeness that Canberra lost completely a few elections ago IMO.
 
Tisme said:
I don't know ... Cameron is articulate, passionate and a professional politician. He doesn't seem to display the heart filled contemptible hate that Abbott and his compatriots have for others not inAbbott's clique. UK parliament retains the old skool maturity/politeness that Canberra lost completely a few elections ago IMO.
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You should stop listening to the ABC and Fiarfax biased crap about Abbott....Mark Scott is about to get the big "A" and the sooner the better.
 
noco said:
Also good news for the Abbott government.....I believe the trend will extend to Aus....Shorten does not stand for anything good ATM.
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The UK FTSE index rose 2.3% overnight, although all Europe indices had good sessions.
 
noco said:
You should stop listening to the ABC and Fiarfax biased crap about Abbott....Mark Scott is about to get the big "A" and the sooner the better.
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I don't listen to either organisation Noco. I have made it fairly clear in the past that I get my info from the actual departmental information releases and social media; both sources far more accurate than television and print media. Doesn't Alan Jones work for Fairfax?

If Mark Scott gets the bullet, it might be a welcome end to the soccer bias on ABC, but it will reveal the Federal Liberal Party as another Campbell Newmanesque tragic that allows corruption of fairness in favour of cronyism.

The only way to silence the ABC from presenting anything anti Lib or pro Lab is to dumb it down; it is a fact of life that as people educate they move from self interest (self actualisation) to social awareness, which creates the impression of bias to Labor, when in actual fact it's the absence of social identification in the Liberal Party that creates the illusion of bias. The ABC is full of erudite staff, not necessarily Labor voters and from my circle of friends many are indeed rusted on Liberals.


And before you do your normal routine of referring to others being guilty of the same, two wrongs do not make a right and I personally do not have faith in any of the majors to behave with the fiduciary responsibilities we all expect fro what we are paying for.
 
Tisme said:
I don't listen to either organisation Noco. I have made it fairly clear in the past that I get my info from the actual departmental information releases and social media; both sources far more accurate than television and print media. Doesn't Alan Jones work for Fairfax?

If Mark Scott gets the bullet, it might be a welcome end to the soccer bias on ABC, but it will reveal the Federal Liberal Party as another Campbell Newmanesque tragic that allows corruption of fairness in favour of cronyism.

The only way to silence the ABC from presenting anything anti Lib or pro Lab is to dumb it down; it is a fact of life that as people educate they move from self interest (self actualisation) to social awareness, which creates the impression of bias to Labor, when in actual fact it's the absence of social identification in the Liberal Party that creates the illusion of bias. The ABC is full of erudite staff, not necessarily Labor voters and from my circle of friends many are indeed rusted on Liberals.


And before you do your normal routine of referring to others being guilty of the same, two wrongs do not make a right and I personally do not have faith in any of the majors to behave with the fiduciary responsibilities we all expect fro what we are paying for.
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It is a well known fact that the ABC is controlled by the Green/Labor left wing socialists and that is where the bias towards the Labor come in.
 
noco said:
It is a well known fact that the ABC is controlled by the Green/Labor left wing socialists and that is where the bias towards the Labor come in.
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I may be well known to you, but anyone to the left of Ghengis Khan is a socialist to you.
:D
 
noco said:
It is a well known fact that the ABC is controlled by the Green/Labor left wing socialists and that is where the bias towards the Labor come in.
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Not a "FACT" at all, it is a well held view of the right who can everyone with a different or opposing perspectve.

I requested your description of "a red" a few weeks back, but still no answer.
 
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