Sentencing in Australia is a disgrace

[gav]

6 months ago my coach's cousin was stabbed after school. After being beaten up by a gang of 6, two guys held him, whilst one stabbed him through the left side of the chest. Missed the heart by 1cm. Poor kid was in intensive care for a week, in hospital for months and missed half of year12 and exams because of it.

Only 2 of the offenders where tried. The hearing was yesterday. 6 months jail for attempted murder and causing grevious bodily harm. WTF?! Pathetic...

 

[nunthewiser]

wanna hear a story ??

a VERY good friend of mine took his wife and 2 kids to a WA country hotel one saturday night .

a local and his mate decided to stir him up by being rude and disrespectful to his wife

he sent his wife and his kids back to the hotel room which is part of the pub and took this local lad outside and gave him a slap to correct his manners , after which he returned to his hotel room to order room service for dinner instead of the hassle of eating in the pub

the two locals followed him to his room and promptly kicked the door in and attempted to attack him

he stabbed the pair of them with his steak knife to defend himself and his family

he is currently in casurina prison serving a sentence of 7 years awaiting his apeal on grounds of self defence .

is this justice ?

admiteddly he may have turned the other cheek regarding being in the pub and retaliating in the first place to there smut and disrespect to his family . how many of YOU would ? i know i wouldnt .

a good man caught in a bad situation

i apologise if this is innapropriate for this thread and maybe most here couldnt care less but to me its a bloody farce that this man is jailed for standing up and protecting himself and his family

 

[MrBurns]

wanna hear a story ??

a VERY good friend of mine took his wife and 2 kids to a WA country hotel one saturday night .

a local and his mate decided to stir him up by being rude and disrespectful to his wife

he sent his wife and his kids back to the hotel room which is part of the pub and took this local lad outside and gave him a slap to correct his manners , after which he returned to his hotel room to order room service for dinner instead of the hassle of eating in the pub

the two locals followed him to his room and promptly kicked the door in and attempted to attack him

he stabbed the pair of them with his steak knife to defend himself and his family

he is currently in casurina prison serving a sentence of 7 years awaiting his apeal on grounds of self defence .

is this justice ?

admiteddly he may have turned the other cheek regarding being in the pub and retaliating in the first place to there smut and disrespect to his family . how many of YOU would ? i know i wouldnt .

a good man caught in a bad situation

i apologise if this is innapropriate for this thread and maybe most here couldnt care less but to me its a bloody farce that this man is jailed for standing up and protecting himself and his family

Don.t aplogise Nun thats what this thread is all about. The BS that goes on daily is beyond a joke but I dont see anyone doing anything about it, this is the SYSTEM and thats it,

I'm going to think hard before I vote next time.

 

[MrBurns]

6 months ago my coach's cousin was stabbed after school. After being beaten up by a gang of 6, two guys held him, whilst one stabbed him through the left side of the chest. Missed the heart by 1cm. Poor kid was in intensive care for a week, in hospital for months and missed half of year12 and exams because of it.

Only 2 of the offenders where tried. The hearing was yesterday. 6 months jail for attempted murder and causing grevious bodily harm. WTF?! Pathetic...

If you were related to that kid you'd feel inclined to organise a welcome for those guys when they got out.

 

[gav]

Far out, I really feel for your friend Nun... The topic for this thread is "Sentencing in Australia is a disgrace", so your story is definitely relevant.

I could have been in a similar situation myself last week. On one of the 40 degree nights my g/f and I walked to the corner store for an ice cream. We walked past a drunken yobbo. He stood in front of me and said "Hot b*** you got there" (referring to my g/f). He also mentioned other explicits referring what he would like to do to my g/f, obviously I'm not going to post what he said. From the look on his face, it was obvious he wanted to fight.

He had an older man with him (in his 50's, possibly his Dad?) who tried to drag him away. It took everything in me NOT to smash him. We just walked away.

I now know I did the right thing. Can you imagine if I punched him and he hit his head on the concrete path? I would be stuffed if it went to court - he was drunk, so they'd say he wasn't responsible for his actions. I would have been the one that hit him first, making me the aggressor. He would have had severe injuries, at worst I would have busted knuckles. Oh, and I outweigh him by a good 20KG.

I wish your friend all the best for his appeal.

 

[MrBurns]

How dare the authorities allow this piece of **** out to mix mith you and I

Wife killer walks free -

Convicted murderer Brian Corrigan has been released from a Sydney jail after serving his minimum 16-and-a-half-year jail sentence for killing his pregnant wife.

Corrigan was sentenced to up to 22 years' jail for shooting his wife, Kim, in the head in their Kiama home on the New South Wales south coast in 1992.

She was seven months pregnant.

At Corrigan's trial, the then 32-year-old claimed first that an intruder had committed the murder, then blamed voices in his head.

The State Parole Authority decided at his first parole hearing last month that he could walk free at age 50, saying he had been a model prisoner.

The conditions of Corrigan's release include not contacting the family of his dead wife, staying away from Kiama, Terrigal and Bowral, and not leaving New South Wales or Australia without permission.

The convicted murderer had nothing to say as he walked free from Silverwater Jail this morning.

His wife's family last month said it was disappointed by the decision to release him.

The State Opposition also criticised the Parole Authority's decision, saying it should have kept Corrigan in jail longer because of the family's concerns and the murderer's history of deception.

Shadow attorney general Greg Smith suggested Corrigan had conned the Parole Authority.

Mr Smith admitted he knew nothing of the murderer's conduct in prison.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/05/2482945.htm

 

[pilots]

wanna hear a story ??

a VERY good friend of mine took his wife and 2 kids to a WA country hotel one saturday night .

a local and his mate decided to stir him up by being rude and disrespectful to his wife

he sent his wife and his kids back to the hotel room which is part of the pub and took this local lad outside and gave him a slap to correct his manners , after which he returned to his hotel room to order room service for dinner instead of the hassle of eating in the pub

the two locals followed him to his room and promptly kicked the door in and attempted to attack him

he stabbed the pair of them with his steak knife to defend himself and his family

he is currently in casurina prison serving a sentence of 7 years awaiting his apeal on grounds of self defence .

is this justice ?

admiteddly he may have turned the other cheek regarding being in the pub and retaliating in the first place to there smut and disrespect to his family . how many of YOU would ? i know i wouldnt .

a good man caught in a bad situation

i apologise if this is innapropriate for this thread and maybe most here couldnt care less but to me its a bloody farce that this man is jailed for standing up and protecting himself and his family

What bugs me is your friend got seven years, had he had been in trouble b4, and on drugs he would of only got a two year good behaver bond, the sentencing is a joke.

 

[Calliope]

It took nearly a week of court trial wasting the judiciary's time and costing the taxpayer scores of thousands to find out what every man and his dog knew...that Angela Liati is a liar. And the judge told her she is not likely to get a custodial sentence. And she is going to appeal.:dunno:

 

[MrBurns]

It took nearly a week of court trial wasting the judiciary's time and costing the taxpayer scores of thousands to find out what every man and his dog knew...that Angela Liati is a liar. And the judge told her she is not likely to get a custodial sentence. And she is going to appeal.:dunno:

If our taxes were spent properly you could probably halve them.

 

[Calliope]

Sentencing is a problem. When to remit the sentence and let them out is also a problem.

In England, doctors have decided that Peter Sutcliffe the Yorkshire Ripper mass murderer, is no longer dangerous and is fit for release. A psychiatrist said

He is effectively cured as long as he never stops taking medication

He is 62 and has been in jail for 28 years, the last 25 of which have been in Broadmoor where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.

 

[MrBurns]

Sentencing is a problem. When to remit the sentence and let them out is also a problem.

In England, doctors have decided that Peter Sutcliffe the Yorkshire Ripper mass murderer, is no longer dangerous and is fit for release. A psychiatrist said

He is 62 and has been in jail for 28 years, the last 25 of which have been in Broadmoor where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.

Why would you let him out, what sort of life would he have anyway, In a pub "Yes I'm the Yorkshire ripper but I'm ok now", 50 people move to the other end of the bar.
I'ts just bull****, he should be kept in jail, any fool can see that.

 

[Calliope]

Why would you let him out, what sort of life would he have anyway, In a pub "Yes I'm the Yorkshire ripper but I'm ok now", 50 people move to the other end of the bar.

Yes, and if he is anything like me after a few pints he will forget to take his medication. The girls on the game will be diving for cover then.

 

[MrBurns]

His medication has only been tested in jail wait till he gets out and sees all the lovely future victims, he's got a lot to catch up on.

It's a waste of time and money to even consider releasing people like this, it's wrong. it's unwise, it's risky, it's unjust to the victims relatives and not an action that people who pay taxes want their money applied to, they expect better.

 

[Happy]

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It's a waste of time and money to even consider releasing people like this, it's wrong. it's unwise, it's risky, it's unjust to the victims relatives and not an action that people who pay taxes want their money applied to, they expect better.

That’s why I believe that some are only good for spare parts, if somebody doesn’t mind the >connection<

 

[daisy]

I have a friend who was dragged off the street, bashed in the head with a rock, raped and left for dead. (in Qld) She survived.
The b. was caught but because he was a non-secretor (?) it couldn’t be proven. He walked from the court a free man.
This isn't such a big town. I also knew one of the jurors. He didn't know my friend but he was very unhappy about the verdict. He said that given what they had to go on,the jury had no choice.
After this, it was then revealed that the rapist was on parole (and guilty of violating his parole by going AWOL) in S.A. for exactly the same offence. And that was not his first sexual offence. Memory fails me, but there were at least 2 others prior to that. This couldn't be revealed during the court case because it was predujicial
He was returned to S.A.
About a year later, my friend received a phone call from a journalist informing her that this animal had done it yet again and what were her comments.

I have another friend who works for Correctional Services (Probation and Parole.) One aspect of his job is jailhouse programmes for sexual offenders. I'm not saying he isn't an intelligent man but his qualifications are an Arts degree with a major in English Literature.

 

[Happy]

From ABC, 20 Feb. 09

MEDIA BANNED FROM COURT FOR 'BREATHTAKING HYPOCRISY'

A Sydney judge has banned the media from hearing the case of four youths who allegedly subjected a 13-year-old girl to repeated sex offences.
The four young men, who cannot be identified, pleaded guilty to sexual offences against a 13-year-old girl in public toilets in Bankstown and Yagoona.
Before hearing sentencing submissions, defence lawyers told the court two commercial television stations had shown "breathtaking hypocrisy" by identifying a number of the youths in their broadcasts.
The court heard that, as a result, the youths received phone calls from neighbours and distant acquaintances who had not previously known about the case.
The judge ruled the youths' future rehabilitation prospects had been jeopardised as a result of their identities being exposed.
He banned the media from further hearings to avoid any more damage to the youths.

Not exactly on subject as four alleged offenders not sentenced yet, but the biggest concern is for >rehabilitation prospects< and >to avoid any more damage to the youths<


I hope similar or better care is offered toward a 13-year old.

 

[Calliope]

NewsCom

Swimming champion Nick D'Arcy admits to alcohol problem in sentencing hearing.
D’Arcy awaits his fate
NICK D'Arcy has personally apologised for a devastating punch he landed on a fellow swimmer, but admits he drunkenly threatened a bouncer last month saying "one hit is all it takes".

"That statement was made to try and disarm any physical altercation (with the bouncer)," D'Arcy told a magistrate at his sentencing hearing today in Sydney's Downing Centre Local Court.

D'Arcy, 21, has pleaded guilty to recklessly inflicting grievous bodily harm on Commonwealth Games gold medallist Simon Cowley in an inner-Sydney bar in March 2008.

I doubt very much whether this young thug will get a jail sentence, even though he has a history of violent thuggery

In the past this spoilt brat's rich doting parents have tried to keep him out of the news with the chequebook

Simon Cowley received some very nasty injuries. I hope he sues D'Arcy for everything he and his parents have got.

 

[daisy]

Our paper reports most court cases each day. There was one particular lawyer who made a name for himself representing every piece of scum in this town. He's gone from here now, but I used to wonder how he slept at night for worrying about his children walking the streets with the rapists and child molestors he had helped put in their path.

 

[nulla nulla]

Maybe it is time to rethink the merits of capital punishment for serious crimes. A short drop with a quick stop would eliminate the expense of prolonged detention and repeat offending after release from serving sentences. These people are rarely rehabilitated. Making hangings public may be a better deterant to those misguided copy cat criminals. These days, with all the sensational media attention criminals get, it often appears that the media is trying to make the criminals look like the ones that are hard done by, instead of the victoms.

 

[daisy]

While I have also expressed similar thoughts, regarding the death sentence, from time to time, it’s usually been in frustration at sentencing and recidivism. I kind of understood the facebook posts. But, I don’t know if I would actually be comfortable with the reality.
I think society needs to move away from the idea of punishment of sociopathic offenders and instead move towards the notion of protecting the rest of us from such people. Lock them up and throw away the key would achieve this without causing all the emotional conflict regarding death sentencing.
If it means that we, as taxpayers, have to support them for the rest of their miserable lives then personally I think that’s a small price to pay for our protection and security.