Sentencing in Australia is a disgrace

[AlterEgo]

Bailed ? why not lock the creep up till the Court date !!!

Because in this country you're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

 

[MrBurns]

I’ll digress a little; we do not have enough money to provide free travel for children to attend school.
We do not have enough money to eliminate hospital elective surgery waiting lists, nor make dental care more affordable, nor have enough police to PREVENT CRIME, nor enough money to provide higher education at better prices that it is now, and the list if almost endless, obesity, diabetics, drugs dependence not to mention that some parents are not fit to raise children (this is where most bad seeds are sprouting)

We do cull problematic animals.

And we worry so much and build more and more >rehabilitation centres< as numbers just keep growing
(We even import more and more problems from overseas – just yesterday in Adelaide, Sudanese underage refugees had a knifes out day)

I read article that one day there will be not enough carers for those who need care and hard decisions will have to be made,

Until then lets pretend that nothing can be made about everything that is wrong and let the avalanche just roll into too difficult basket.

No problem finding a lazy $10.5B for the bailout though, that took ohhhh about 10 minutes.

 

[prawn_86]

No problem finding a lazy $10.5B for the bailout though, that took ohhhh about 10 minutes.

Exactly.

It comes back to mankinds inherent greed and desire to look after oneselves. Politicians do this by looking after those that will keep them in power, banks do this by making sure they are too big to fail so management can keep getting fat paycheques.

There is nothing to entice enough naturally greedy humans to look after others, be it drs, nurses, prison guards etc.

 

[MrBurns]

Another disgraceful example of our laws at work -

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669330

Girl's sex attacker moves next door


Two weeks ago, the Macquarie Fields man finished serving a sentence of five years and two months for an attack on his young neighbour, and immediately moved back into his home.

Neither can be named for legal reasons.

The man's reappearance has shocked the south-western Sydney community, which has begun distributing flyers naming him as a sex predator and identifying his address.

The girl was 12 when she was abused and was so devastated by the attack she tried to kill herself, she told the Seven Network on Thursday.

She was now living at a friend's home because she was so frightened of the man.

"When I'm here (at home) I stay in my room and I don't talk to anyone, and every time I hear the front door it's like, 'Who's there?'," she said.

 

[Calliope]

Because in this country you're innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

So murderer Gordon Wood has been innocent for the past 13 years Do you mean "presumed innocent"? Not many people outside our cumbersome legal system shared this presumption.

 

[MrBurns]

Another lame and disgraceful decision -

Bail for man accused of 11yo's rape

An Adelaide man charged with raping an 11-year-old boy and taking photographs of the alleged assault has been granted bail in the Magistrates Court.

The man and an alleged accomplice have been charged with rape and producing child pornography.

The man, 42, who cannot be named, from Tranmere in Adelaide was arrested by police after a Queensland man went to police about the case.

It is alleged that, in June 2006, the two men lured the boy away from a city skate park in the early hours of the morning.

They are alleged to have sexually assaulted the boy and taken photographs of the attack.

The Adelaide man has been freed on bail, conditional on a midnight to dawn curfew and a ban on loitering around schools, public toilets or other places where children might be present.

The Adelaide man will return to court next month.

 

[white_crane]

Wow, there are quite a few draconian sounding attitudes here...

And whilst I believe that there are some instances where the sentence was too lenient, I'd like to think that we've moved past the times when your hand was cut off for stealing a loaf of bread.



Put your hand up all those who can honestly say that they have never committed any crime.

 

[noirua]

I'm all for setting up work camps where prisoners are sentenced to points. 10 years in prison would be 20,000 work points. After each days work, points out of 10 would be given, and anyone lazing around could stay for a very long time indeed.

Every time a prisoner gets 10 points then $10 would be added to a savings account for them. Improving their chances on release.

Extra points would be added for various offences whilst in custody.

Studying and passing examinations etc., would reduce points and would be an incentive.

 

[MrBurns]

Pathetic -

Police say he is dangerous and should not be approached.

what was he doing in home detention ????????????

Incompetent ****wits......

Sydney paedophile on the run

Posted 32 minutes ago

Map: Campbelltown 2560

Sydney police are searching for a convicted paedophile who they say has broken a home detention order.

An arrest warrant has been issued for 28 year-old Troy Myers, who is convicted of aggravated sexual assault of a person under 16.

Police say Myers left his Campbelltown home last Sunday.

He is required to wear an ankle monitor under his parole conditions but police believe he has removed it.

Officers say Myers is white and 184 centimetres tall, with a medium build and short, blond hair.

Police say he is dangerous and should not be approached.

They say he frequents the Bankstown area.

Police are urging anyone with information on his whereabouts to call 000 or Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

 

[Happy]

Police say he is dangerous and should not be approached.

Why was he let go then, bracelet or not?

 

[MrBurns]

Exactly, just lock em' up and throw away the key.
I'm sick of our justice system finding every way possible at great expense to the taxpayer of making life easy for worthless trash.

 

[Calliope]

Most criminals are not sent to jail because the jails are not big enough and and because it costs more to keep them in jail than put them up at the Hilton.

The time will come when there are more predators running loose than victims to prey on.

 

[MrBurns]

Most criminals are not sent to jail because the jails are not big enough and and because it costs more to keep them in jail than put them up at the Hilton.

The time will come when there are more predators running loose than victims to prey on.

I've always been an advocate of building larger jails for that reason.

You cant "punish" a child sex offender, they are sick and should be locked up for good, I'll pay more tax for that project.

Why the hell does it cost so much to keep people in a cage, it's bull****.

 

[Happy]

.. Why the hell does it cost so much to keep people in a cage, it's bull****.

Offenders should contribute more to their keep, with little bit more forced labour they could be not only zero cost but even profitable.


Grafitti vandals and any other vandals could be treated the same way, pay back more to the community than original offence.
This cuould deter from offending in a first place, even if not it would pay to have scum.
Eiher way community would be a winner.

 

[MrBurns]

Offenders should contribute more to their keep, with little bit more forced labour they could be not only zero cost but even profitable.

I guess that would involve someone at Govt level actually thinking, it just wont happen.

 

[MrBurns]

From the NineMSN web site, another disgraceful sentence.

Youths get detention over fatal bashing

A man sentenced to youth detention for his part in a vicious bashing which killed a university mathematician smiled as he was handed his sentence on Monday.

Victorian Supreme Court Justice David Harper described the actions as "several hours of mad senseless criminality", as he sentenced the 18-year-old, known only as MBA, to three years in a youth detention centre.

His co-accused, WH, was sentenced to two years and eight months in youth detention.

The two men, who cannot be named for legal reasons, were 17 at the time of the attack on January 22 this year.

They went out with a gang of six others looking for someone to rob when they came across Victoria University researcher Zhongjun Cao, 41, who was walking home from work in Footscray at 9.45pm.

The group surrounded Dr Cao and MBA punched him twice in the face, WH pushed him from behind and others continued the assault with punches.

Dr Cao was flung to the ground, hitting his head on the pavement, and then another member of the gang kicked him in the head before the gang stole his wallet and phone.

The researcher died four days later.

WH appeared worried as Justice Harper delivered his sentence but MBA looked at his relatives and smiled.

The sentences were slammed by victims' advocates for being too lenient.

Steve Medcraft, president of People Against Lenient Sentencing, said the fact the men were treated as juveniles was a "sham".

"They were all aware of what they were doing," he said.

"They are old enough to drink, old enough to vote, old enough to join the army yet they are treated as a juvenile, it's an absolute sham."

But Justice Harper said the men had better prospects for rehabilitation in youth detention than in an adult prison, where they would be exposed to "undesirable influences".

Both men pleaded guilty to one count each of manslaughter and robbery relating to the attack on Dr Cao, while WH also pleaded guilty to another count of robbery relating to a second attack.

The gang attacked a second man, Binesh Mosaheb, about 1am on January 23, and WH punched him in the face.

Mr Mosaheb was injured but survived.

The court heard that after the attack on Dr Cao, some gang members had decided to find someone else, preferably an Indian, to rob.

Justice Harper said the fact Mr Mosaheb was Mauritian, not Indian, demonstrated "the mindless ugliness of racism".

He said the attacks were cowardly and carried out on defenceless men.

WH had been subject to racism and bullying himself while at school, the court heard.

MBA will only serve the next two years in detention after spending the past year in custody, while WH has also served almost a year of his sentence.

Two other members of the gang are facing a trial next year over both attacks.

 

[Calliope]

They probably used the Queensland defence. It goes something like this;

Criminal: Sure judge, I punched him and knocked him down, and I kicked him in the head a few times. But I didn't mean to kill him.

Judge: You didn't mean to kill him?

Criminal: Why would I want to kill him? He was just a random victim.

Judge: That's all right then. I will instruct the jury to acquit you. Just try to keep your assaults non-lethal in future.

 

[Bushman]

From the NineMSN web site, another disgraceful sentence.

I must say I was shocked at this one too. Three years for going 'curry bashing' and beating a defenseless man to death for a few dollars?

I am all for giving young people a second chance but a man died and the perpetrators get three years? What value a life? I shake my head sometimes.

 

[MrBurns]

Another one, no matter he killed 2 people he's been a good boy lets let him out among the public.

Man who murdered pregnant wife out early

A man who shot dead his pregnant wife on the NSW south coast will be free within two weeks after being granted parole eight years before his maximum jail term expired.

Brian Corrigan was sentenced to 22 years in prison after shooting his wife Kim twice in the head at their Kiama home in 1992, killing both her and their unborn baby girl.

Corrigan, who was 34 at the time, had waited inside their darkened home before ambushing his 27-year-old wife, who was seven months pregnant.

He initially claimed an intruder had committed the murder, but later blamed voices in his head - a claim the trial judge rejected.

Having served 16 years of his sentence, the NSW State Parole Authority last month issued an "intention to grant parole" to Corrigan, saying he had a blemish-free record in jail.

 

[Aussiejeff]

Most criminals are not sent to jail because the jails are not big enough and and because it costs more to keep them in jail than put them up at the Hilton.

The time will come when there are more predators running loose than victims to prey on.

What price BIG, EMPTY, DISMAL detention centres?

The Man Of Steel Who Shall Not Be Named chucked loads of half-starved child refugees in 'em.

I can't for the life of me see why recidivist social miscreants can't have an extended holiday in 'em instead. The damned things are ALREADY built - and WAITING to be fed truckloads of society's trash.


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