What a bunch of nonsense. In that game it's acceptable to beat up or kill anyone, but it's just a game, and to suggest it is anything more is an insult to the vast majority of people who have ever played a violent video game.
Instead of them playning outside & siocializing they play "Grand Theft Auto" where it is quiet aceptable to beat up women. Now you can' t tell me that this doesn't influence your future citizen..[/LIST]
Not quite sentencing, but this is a story of a man being charged after defending his home against 7 teen burglars.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1019191
Same story but with 5 burglars
Mum warns of revenge for kids' assaultJESSICA STRUTT, The West Australian March 4, 2010, 3:20 pm Buzz up! Send
A revenge attack is likely on a Mr Whippy ice-cream man charged with wounding three juveniles during a bungled home break-in, relatives of the children warned yesterday.
The mother and older brother of a 14-year-old boy who was knocked unconscious during the incident said Carnarvon resident Glenn Gregory, 52, had taken the law into his own hands and they would too.
There appeared to be a lot of support for Mr Gregory from Carnarvon locals yesterday, with many saying there was a lot of frustration in the town because of continual break-ins.
An uncle of a girl who needed stitches to an open head wound from the alleged assault said there would be retribution against Mr Gregory from Aboriginal family members.
All three relatives, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said Mr Gregory had gone "too far". They said he should have called the police to deal with the break-in at his suburban home in Carnarvon.
The mother, whose two sons have been charged with aggravated burglary over the break-in, said she hoped Mr Gregory, who has been charged with three counts of aggravated wounding, went to jail.
The mother acknowledged that the seven juveniles, aged 11 to 15, involved in the break-in on Sunday night had done the wrong thing.
She said a retaliation bashing of Mr Gregory might not happen straight away but it would occur, possibly months down the track.
"When he cornered them he could have just kept them there and waited for the police but instead he went and flogged into them."
All three relatives said Mr Gregory would not be welcome on the streets selling ice-cream to the town's children anymore.
The brother of the 14-year-old said: "By right that little boy he got big brothers and we can take the law in our own hands, too."
Mr Gregory said this week he was sad about what happened and wished he could turn the clock back.
Police will allege that after he was woken by seven juveniles trying to break into his home, Mr Gregory cornered three of them and assaulted them with some sort of weapon which they believe was either a metal pole or a wooden stick.
IMO: if you live in SA do not vote for Mike Rann.
I doubt, however, that his proposed changes will pass through and be implemented...but what an ubsurd idea...as the article states there is no need for this reform whatsoever...there are already provisions within the common law to deal with such instances when previous offences can be brought forward to jurors...itll create prejudice...how can jurors be expected to think objectively if they are bombarded with such information? I know the article explains this and I am in essence just regurgitating its views (but they are views I hold). At the end of the day I think this is just a political stunt (as the article says) to paint Mike Rann as someone who is 'tough on crime'. These proposed changes are a mistake. God help us and our legal system if they are passed. What a joke SA.
N.T
A chop is a good description...I wouldn't mind hearing the opinions of some others on this thread as I am sure there are people who are 'for' the changes, would be good to hear your views.
N.T
Hi Newbie,Sir O,
You do make some very valid points here, but in respect to the proposed changes in question do you think we need them? Obviously from my previous posts, I do not think we do. Our legal system already operates and has many similarities with the US, I know a few solicitors who graduated here in Australia and easily found jobs in the US (without having to undertake any further studies). Australia does however, have far less crime per capita than the US. As for a three strike 'rule' i'm sure you would find a lot of support within the community for its implementation, however, the civil libertarians would not be happy. One thing which we seem to be seeing more and more of in the news are all these frivolous law suits being brought before the court which waste the tax payers money and alienate the public - boy sues teacher for 15,000 for waking him up in class. Sure at the end of the day our legal system is not perfect, but far too often I see people making outlandish comments about things which they really have no specific knowledge on and it can be quite frustrating. Sentencing in Australia does in some cases seem far from perfect, but normally a sentence is a reflection on many things not just the crime that has been committed...many things that the news articles neglect to mention...being a judge (and I know some) is not as easy as everyone on this thread seems to think it is...most cases which make it to trial are not straight forward, you cannot have some list of crimes and corresponding sentences on it [i.e murder 50 years (just an example)]. I know I have rambled on a bit here, but i hope you can make sense of some of it:. I just wanted to bring another perspective to what is a very interesting thread.
N.T
I agree, if they they can't learn a lesson the first or second time they need to be dealt with harshly. ...
Totally agree!
When will a 20 yr sentence....ACUALLY BE A 20YR SENTENCE!
Whats with all the privilages prisoners get...like tv etc. Its not supposed to be "fun"
Eye for an eye I say.
You steal...you lose a hand for it.
You murder....you die as your punishment (that includes cruelity to animals)
Its pretty simple to me!
Bikeway rapist to keep reduced sentence
08:30 AEST Tue Mar 23 2010
The Queensland government won't fight a court decision to reduce the sentence of Brisbane's serial bikeway rapist.
Luke James Colless, 34, was sentenced to 25 years last year for the rape of five women and the sexual assault of six others between 2006 and 2008.
Last month, the Court of Appeal slashed that sentence by nine years.
Queensland Attorney-General Cameron Dick said the state's Solicitor-General Walter Sofronoff QC has advised there was no legal basis for an appeal to the high court.
"Given the solicitor-general's clear and unequivocal advice that there is no prospect of success, the government will not make an application to seek special leave to appeal," Mr Dick said in a statement.
Here are two views of a cell in Darwin's Berrimah Prison complete with en suite bathroom, TV, etc. It looks more luxurious than many of the cheap hotel rooms I've stayed in in Asia ... AND you get free food! (No wonder all of those "refugees" are so desperate to get here!)Whats with all the privilages prisoners get...like tv etc. Its not supposed to be "fun"
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