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noco said:
Rumpy you asked the question reference your post #6 dated March 1 2016.

Since then nobody has shown any interest in extending the RC into the Islamic World....Not on this forum or the RC......

There is as much if not more child abuse carried out by Muslims....Genital mutilation.....9 year old child brides forced to marry much older men and it is a known fact it is going on in Australia under the Islamic Sharia law.

Is the terms of reference confined to the Catholic church or all religions?

I would also like some answers.

I just did some quick check and find the terms of reference could most definely apply to Islam as it states all religions.

So why hasn't the RC taken up the taken into account child sex abuse in the Islamic World here in Australia?

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/about-us/terms-of-
AND public and private institutions, including child-care, cultural, educational, religious, sporting and other institutions, provide important services and support for children and their families that are beneficial to children’s development.
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Because genital mutilation is not widespread or tolerated in Australia. The vast majority of women in Australia who have suffered from this disgusting practice, had the procedure overseas before migrating here.

Abuse by catholic priests has been found to be widespread and ongoing over 60 years, with many many victims and people affected.

If there is child sex abuse in the Islamic community here in Australia then of course it should be taken into account.
 
Junior said:
Because genital mutilation is not widespread or tolerated in Australia. The vast majority of women in Australia who have suffered from this disgusting practice, had the procedure overseas before migrating here.

Abuse by catholic priests has been found to be widespread and ongoing over 60 years, with many many victims and people affected.

If there is child sex abuse in the Islamic community here in Australia then of course it should be taken into account.
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What proof do you have that genital does not occur in Australia?
 
Interesting that we make a fuss about FGM and not about circumcision.

They are the same thing really.
 
As I understand it, not really the same.

For a male, only the foreskin is removed which still allows normal sex to take place whereas the purpose of the female procedure is to remove the "parts" that could give physical pleasure or arousal.

Quite different and all to do with the patriarchal society attitude of ownership of females
 
macca said:
As I understand it, not really the same.

For a male, only the foreskin is removed which still allows normal sex to take place whereas the purpose of the female procedure is to remove the "parts" that could give physical pleasure or arousal.

Quite different and all to do with the patriarchal society attitude of ownership of females
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Strange God to be asking for foreskins to be removed.

Did He made a mistake when he created Adam?

What's with these Abrahamic religions and out/lawing people's sexual habits and genitalia?
 
luutzu said:
Strange God to be asking for foreskins to be removed.

Did He made a mistake when he created Adam?

What's with these Abrahamic religions and out/lawing people's sexual habits and genitalia?
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I have no idea why it is done but a side benefit is that a man who has been circumsized is far less likely to contract aids from having sex with a female, this also applies to most STD apparently.

I have also read that circumsized males do not suffer as much from premature ejaculation, the theory is that over time underwear tends to desensitise the "end bit"
 
macca said:
I have no idea why it is done but a side benefit is that a man who has been circumsized is far less likely to contract aids from having sex with a female, this also applies to most STD apparently.

I have also read that circumsized males do not suffer as much from premature ejaculation, the theory is that over time underwear tends to desensitise the "end bit"
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Whatever the reason it's mutilation without consent. No one, not even parents owns an individual's body.

If a person wants to be circumsized they can make that decision for themselves when they reach an appropriate age.
 
SirRumpole said:
hatever the reason it's mutilation without consent. No one, not even parents owns an individual's body.

If a person wants to be circumsized they can make that decision for themselves when they reach an appropriate age.
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Absolutely correct !
Terrible and disgusting traditions
 
macca said:
I have no idea why it is done but a side benefit is that a man who has been circumsized is far less likely to contract aids from having sex with a female, this also applies to most STD apparently.

I have also read that circumsized males do not suffer as much from premature ejaculation, the theory is that over time underwear tends to desensitise the "end bit"
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I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure if a guy has sex with an AIDS infected woman, circumcision or not... I mean, the foreskin isn't the only bits in contact. Circumcision is not a protective device. Just say No would be more effective here.

As to female genital mutilation... I haven't looked it up to know what it is. There are things I don't want to see. But assuming the worst. Anyway, religion and people should really stay away from children, their genital... just stay away from kids altogether if you ask me.

I heard a while back that Jewish circumcision have its origin in the Bible where King David either ordered, or God ordered him, to slay the enemies and bring back their foreskin. So as to be with God, or as proof? Whatever happen to a head, wait, wrong wording... an ear or a heart as evidence? Seems a bit unmanly to ask your soldiers to do that. But then God did asked for it so I guess you can't say no.

Man, that better be some racist joke someone pulled.
 
Well, to your question about why it is not a part of the Royal Commission. I guess the question is whether or not FGM is considered child sex abuse or not, and whether or not investigating it as a part of this commission will halt the practice or not.
 
Junior said:
Well, to your question about why it is not a part of the Royal Commission. I guess the question is whether or not FGM is considered child sex abuse or not, and whether or not investigating it as a part of this commission will halt the practice or not.
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Of course it is child abuse.......It is not practiced on a new born Muslim girls but on young girls from the age of 6 or 7 to 14 years old.......No sedatives.....No anaesthetics and is normally carried out by some male barbaric Muslim with a razor blade...The girls are held down and leg roped.
 
noco said:
Of course it is child abuse.......It is not practiced on a new born Muslim girls but on young girls from the age of 6 or 7 to 14 years old.......No sedatives.....No anaesthetics and is normally carried out by some male barbaric Muslim with a razor blade...The girls are held down and leg roped.
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Source for that ? Have you seen it happen personally ?
 
SirRumpole said:
Source for that ? Have you seen it happen personally ?
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On videos yes.....I am sure I posted a link illustrating the procedure.........I may have been deleted because it may have been too explicit or may be on another thread.

Yes I did post it on my thread #2271 Islam : Is it inherently evil....Unfortunately the video was deleted.
 
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SirRumpole said:
Interesting that we make a fuss about FGM and not about circumcision.

They are the same thing really.
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It's not the same. One is predicated on infections and cancer the other is disgraceful display of male domination using superstition as the vehicle. See also infibulation
 
Tisme said:
It's not the same. One is predicated on infections and cancer the other is disgraceful display of male domination using superstition as the vehicle. See also infibulation
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They are the same to the extent as I have said is that both are mutilation without consent.

Circimcission can be done at any age, so the individual should be allowed to make their own decisions.
 
noco said:
Of course it is child abuse.......It is not practiced on a new born Muslim girls but on young girls from the age of 6 or 7 to 14 years old.......No sedatives.....No anaesthetics and is normally carried out by some male barbaric Muslim with a razor blade...The girls are held down and leg roped.
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Is FGM considered to be Child Sexual Abuse?
 
Junior said:
Is FGM considered to be Child Sexual Abuse?
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How naive you are. .....If a pedophile fingers a young girl's clitoris, isn't that regarded as child sex abuse?
You come across as though you condone FGM.
I believe there is nothing in the Koran referring to FGM.
 
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