There are definite advantages of 80 degree H2O if you use it to preheat water for use in conventional power stations. ie it takes less coal/gas etc to boil water if its already at 80 degrees, and also less CO2 emissions, which in itself has value.
They are also involved in geothermal heating for building complexes (currently exploring and developing a project in Madrid - Spain) where 80 degrees is fine to provide cheap/green heating for domestic use.
Check out the company web page for their recent announcements in regards to that project.
Technically it's very doable. But if they can manage the massive infrastructure to get a hydrogen industry up and running then, well, let's just say building a transmission line is an awful lot easier. Hydrogen's not exactly easy to transport which makes even a long transmission line seem comparatively attractive in most situations (there are some niche hydrogen applications that might be a goer however).Also, I had another thought about GDY which I'd like to hear people's opinions on. Lets say (hypothetically) that they don't end up being able to build the infrastructure to connect their powerstation to the national grid, surely they could use the electricity for hydrolysis to split water into oxygen and hydrogen to produce clean fuel (?) Could this be another option for GDY?
Hi all,
From what I read, PTR are trying to do similar things, but are targeting shallow hot rocks that lie above the deeper, hotter granites. The idea is that this saves money because they don't have to drill so deep and don't go through so many drill bits etc. However, I found the story a little hard to follow, because these shallow hot rocks that PTR are interested in only have temperatures of like 60 degrees or 80 degrees... much lower than the 200-220 degrees that GDY is targeting. Now, PTR is quoting the temperature of the rocks, but also the thermal gradient (e.g. 180 degrees per km) as if this is the key to their energy generation. What I don't understand is how they will be able to generate power from 60 degree rocks? This won't generate steam. Are they planning to use some other method of power generation (i.e. by using air or something in conjunction with the thermal gradient)? How likely is this approach to succeed and will it hamper investment into GDYs much needed infrastructure to link them to the national grid?
I'm not certain of the locations of the various geothermal companies but being close to existing major transmission lines, and preferably near a major load, is certainly desirable.Network connection is a huge cost, you lose money in transmission, you lose power in transportation, stability is sketchy over long distances etc. Petratherm is located alot closer to Adelaide and the National Market than Geodynamics.
I'm not certain of the locations of the various geothermal companies but being close to existing major transmission lines, and preferably near a major load, is certainly desirable.
Electrically, I'm very close to Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide where I'm sitting right now - and that's in Tasmania. It's all one big interconnected system (though it has capacity constraints). But outback SA is in the middle of nowhere electrically and that's an additional cost.
For a medium scale (100 - 500 MW) plant there is certainly an advantage in being able to connect easily to existing transmission.
Larger than that is getting pretty serious, it's a major power station, in which case there will need to be new transmission built anyway unless it's right next to an existing plant that's being closed. But even then it's a lot cheaper to be building a 200km line than 2000km. A lot less problematic to keep it running too.
So what do you guys think - Is GDY likely to be providing power to the grid or is it just pie in the sky? It sounds like their are a lot of problems with the infrastructure (i.e. not just as simple as building some power lines).
Actually stopped at 77cents today Trav, but like you I'm in for the long haul. Will consider buying more at this price...could see it edge toward $1 toward the new year if we see some sort of pre-Christmas rally - however I would suggest that would be best case scenario and would need continued good news between now and then...unfortunately I can't see too many of the top 20 shareholders buying up big lots in the short term.
ronnieling;361534The new well thats being drilled today is to assess whether the resources in the Cooper are going to be viable to scale generation up past 50MW beyond 2012.[/QUOTE said:50MW is useful but it's not really that much. To put it into perspective, total demand across Qld, NSW/ACT, Vic, Tas and SA is about 26,970 MW right now. The major source of that is coal with gas and hydro supplying almost all of the remainder. Minor sources such as wind, bagasse and some small hydro plants are collectively supplying 223 MW at the moment.
50MW is where Victoria was with brown coal and Tasmania was with hydro in 1920. A foundation from which something much bigger was built but not in itself as major energy source by today's standards. So 50MW is a start, but they'll need to ramp up big time to turn that into a major energy source for Australia.
Sounds fine in theory. My point is just that they actually have to do the additional wells before it becomes significant - the first one is really just a pilot plant.And if this well is sucsessful they can then drill another 10 wells, maybe it is more, between savana and habanero...please correct me if i am wrong. These 10 well should then beable to provide the steam they need to have 10 of the 50mW power plants, making it a 500mW power station...it then comes down to distance from population to transmit the power.
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