So_Cynical
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I am currently looking in investing into the geothermal industry and have
started looking at GDY only recently.
I have a few questions for those who know more than me
1. I terms of geothermal energy, when would you be expecting a fairly
large increase in both production and use Australia?
2. At what price would you recommend to invest in GDY?
3. How much growth would you expect in the next few years or so? Next decade? and by 2020?
From the technical (electricity not share price) perspective:I just hope that there is not more to the SP drop than sentiment.
Maybe when the bears are out neutral news is good enough reason to sell.
When the market is optimistic this same news would probably cause a jump in SP.
If the world and Aus gets serious about reducing CO2 (which is likely) and
GDY gets the concept working (I can only guess this probabilty) the current SP will look extremely cheap given it is :
BASE LOAD
NO EMISSIONS
CHEAP
To me that means it would be clearly the best of all energy sources.
EG I don't see clean coal being ready for a long time.
And GDY will be ready to deliver just about the time I think Aus will start really doing something about climate change.
I welcome any opinions on this.
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PETEAI
The reason GDY have put most of their resources to work in the Cooper Basin is, that's where the hottest fractured granites are, they have other tenements elsewhere.
Others may go to allot of cost to find out their granites won't produce enough heat to run their turbines.
Transmission line costs will be approx 1$M/K or $500m to the grid at Olympic Dam, this cost will probably be heavily subsidized, or even paid for by State &/or Fed Gov's once "proof of concept" has materialised. They are desperate for power (Base Load) in SA, if they can get emission free it will far override the cost of transmission.
Energy loss in transmission to Adelaide is only 5%.
500 MW is the goal by 2016 (and this could be fastracked). Output will reach 10,000 MW, there's discussions of Co's taking their refining etc. to this emission free power.
Carbon capture from coal or so called "clean coal" have a significant amount of emissions before you utilize the final product for power. IMHO.
Disclosure; have a small holding of GDY.
Hi Smurf & peteai,
I have heard that Gdy doesn't want any special deals from Co's (even if it is BHP), they just want to be competitive with other providers.
Something to consider re use of (cheap) MW's:
Aluminum smelters; they are in places in the world where the is cheap power (hydro),they use allot of Mw's to run.
A smelter was to be built West of Rockhampton almost next to Stanwell power station, they spent lot's on feasibility, and even started earthworks and foundations I believe, only to pull out, and you can bet the reason being is the ultimate cost of power with Climate Change etc.
As I mentioned in above post, I believe industry will seek out this power for processing their raw materials. The glory is to produce the final product here in Oz.
How does ETS's work by sending raw materials to China =(emissions), processing there =(emissions) then transporting back, or to wherever, yet more emissions?
Olympic Dam is going to have a huge expansion (they already use about 1000Mw).
IMHO.
PS going down there on Saturday for a short stint, may have some more insight after. It will be a shame to be so close to GDY site and not be able to get there (this time).
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