Knobby22
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As I've said before, you know what to expect from Mike Carlton on climate change. Strong on polemic, short on research, this Bob Brown disciple. By contrast Lord Monckton is noted as an '..idiotic British peer and coolist..'
I think Carlton likes to be provocative: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html - Flat-earthers, it's time for a cold shower, February 5, 2011
Says Carlton '..Given this catalogue of global disaster, would now be a good time for the climate change flat-earthers to shut up and listen, do you think? Just for a day or two, or even five minutes?
They won't, of course. The global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion. When the Queensland catastrophe leaves the headlines the local lot will be at it again, barfing up their crackpot notions..'
And another gem '..A lot of the denialist stupidity is ideological..'
I think it's clear who is who is 'beyond help' here.
As I've said before, you know what to expect from Mike Carlton on climate change. Strong on polemic, short on research, this Bob Brown disciple. By contrast Lord Monckton is noted as an '..idiotic British peer and coolist..'
I think Carlton likes to be provocative: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html - Flat-earthers, it's time for a cold shower, February 5, 2011
Says Carlton '..Given this catalogue of global disaster, would now be a good time for the climate change flat-earthers to shut up and listen, do you think? Just for a day or two, or even five minutes?
They won't, of course. The global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion. When the Queensland catastrophe leaves the headlines the local lot will be at it again, barfing up their crackpot notions..'
And another gem '..A lot of the denialist stupidity is ideological..'
I think it's clear who is who is 'beyond help' here.
The third lot of climate denial ratbags are those tabloid media pundits cynically banging the populist drum to drag in the hordes of bogan nongs out there.
These are people who believe they are beset by a cabal of lefties, Greenies, gays, femi-Nazis, Muslims, venal and incompetent public servants and latte-sipping intellectuals conspiring to deprive them of all they hold dear, like their inalienable right to own a jet-ski and to name their children Breeyanna and Jaxxon.
To them, climate change is another part of the plot. They are beyond help.
There has been a wonderful response to my competition to find our greatest whingers. First, an honourable mention to a clutch of gormless Australian tourists stuck in Cairo and grizzling to a TV reporter that the Gillard government had abandoned them.
Canberra had sent two 747s to collect them and any other Australians eager to leave but this bunch wanted nothing less than the SAS abseiling into their room, faces blackened, weapons cocked.
Applause, too, for Peter Costello belly-aching about the government's flood levy, an iniquitous new tax. This from the former treasurer who gave us the never-ever GST and no fewer than six levies of his own.
But the standout winner this week is Kristina Keneally, with her demand that NSW taxpayers should be levied less than everybody else because we have bigger mortgages. There is no end to this woman's silliness.
Arctic sea ice extent averaged over January 2011 was 13.55 million square kilometers (5.23 million square miles). This was the lowest January ice extent recorded since satellite records began in 1979. It was 50,000 square kilometers (19,300 square miles) below the record low of 13.60 million square kilometers (5.25 million square miles), set in 2006, and 1.27 million square kilometers (490,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.
Ice extent in January 2011 remained unusually low in Hudson Bay, Hudson Strait (between southern Baffin Island and Labrador), and Davis Strait (between Baffin Island and Greenland). Normally, these areas freeze over by late November, but this year Hudson Bay did not completely freeze over until mid-January. The Labrador Sea remains largely ice-free.
January 2011 had the lowest ice extent for the month since the beginning of satellite records. The linear rate of decline for the month is –3.3% per decade.
Ice extent for the Arctic as a whole increased at an average of 42,800 square kilometers (16,500 square miles) per day through the month of January, which is about average.
QUEENSLAND had worse cyclones and floods a century ago, before any possibility of man-made warning. Brisbane's biggest flood was actually in 1893. Cyclone Yasi's central pressure of 922hPa is still not as low as the 914hPa of Cyclone Mahina, which killed more than 400 Queenslanders in 1899.
IN 1918, Queensland had two huge cyclones in a single year, each of which killed more people than have died in all Queensland's natural disasters this year, despite our much greater population. Cyclone Tracy in 1974 destroyed Darwin and killed 71 people.
Sails, yes, according to charts I've seen the two events you mention were indeed worse than current, so can hardly be attributed in those times to 'climate change'.
And yes, Professor Garnaut is an economist.
Go figure, as the Americans would say.
Quite so. Right up there with the government's adviser on climate change being an economist.Flannery’s PhD is in Paleontology.
His thesis was on macropod evolution...."
...Is it too much to argue facts?
Is it too much to argue facts?
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