Resisting Climate Hysteria

[Knobby22]

Is this the one?
http://hauntingthelibrary.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/trends_in_natural_disasters_004.jpg

Andrew Bolt's comments:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...w_disasters_that_dont_fit_its_warming_script/

No, it's and Australian only chart and earthquakes don't increase in it at all.
I agree with Andrew Bolt about the chart he was commenting on. The data seems wrong - or there is some bias creeping in whether it is low reportage or change in parameters. Frankly, it look like rubbish.

The Australian chart on the other hand done by business people in Europe looks much more professional and is no where near as steep.

 

[Calliope]

Economist, Ross Garnaut says, in relation to man-made extreme weather events;

"You ain't seen nothing yet."

He is claiming the high moral ground.

Perhaps it will get as bad as the 1890's, when nature, not man, caused five major floods in Brisbane.

 

[Logique]

As I've said before, you know what to expect from Mike Carlton on climate change. Strong on polemic, short on research, this Bob Brown disciple. By contrast Lord Monckton is noted as an '..idiotic British peer and coolist..'

I think Carlton likes to be provocative: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html - Flat-earthers, it's time for a cold shower, February 5, 2011

Says Carlton '..Given this catalogue of global disaster, would now be a good time for the climate change flat-earthers to shut up and listen, do you think? Just for a day or two, or even five minutes?
They won't, of course. The global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion. When the Queensland catastrophe leaves the headlines the local lot will be at it again, barfing up their crackpot notions..'

And another gem '..A lot of the denialist stupidity is ideological..'

I think it's clear who is who is 'beyond help' here.

 

[wayneL]

As I've said before, you know what to expect from Mike Carlton on climate change. Strong on polemic, short on research, this Bob Brown disciple. By contrast Lord Monckton is noted as an '..idiotic British peer and coolist..'

I think Carlton likes to be provocative: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html - Flat-earthers, it's time for a cold shower, February 5, 2011

Says Carlton '..Given this catalogue of global disaster, would now be a good time for the climate change flat-earthers to shut up and listen, do you think? Just for a day or two, or even five minutes?
They won't, of course. The global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion. When the Queensland catastrophe leaves the headlines the local lot will be at it again, barfing up their crackpot notions..'

And another gem '..A lot of the denialist stupidity is ideological..'

I think it's clear who is who is 'beyond help' here.

Kindergarten stuff really. He bags the likes of O'Reilly (deservedly), but employing basically the same tactics. Stunning irony.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

It's raining here today.

gg

 

[IFocus]

As I've said before, you know what to expect from Mike Carlton on climate change. Strong on polemic, short on research, this Bob Brown disciple. By contrast Lord Monckton is noted as an '..idiotic British peer and coolist..'

I think Carlton likes to be provocative: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html - Flat-earthers, it's time for a cold shower, February 5, 2011

Says Carlton '..Given this catalogue of global disaster, would now be a good time for the climate change flat-earthers to shut up and listen, do you think? Just for a day or two, or even five minutes?
They won't, of course. The global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion. When the Queensland catastrophe leaves the headlines the local lot will be at it again, barfing up their crackpot notions..'

And another gem '..A lot of the denialist stupidity is ideological..'

I think it's clear who is who is 'beyond help' here.

I do get a good laugh out of Carlron as a lot I think is tongue in cheek but this point is valid

The third lot of climate denial ratbags are those tabloid media pundits cynically banging the populist drum to drag in the hordes of bogan nongs out there.

These are people who believe they are beset by a cabal of lefties, Greenies, gays, femi-Nazis, Muslims, venal and incompetent public servants and latte-sipping intellectuals conspiring to deprive them of all they hold dear, like their inalienable right to own a jet-ski and to name their children Breeyanna and Jaxxon.

To them, climate change is another part of the plot. They are beyond help.

He left out the fact of commercial / media interests working this crowd of bogan nongs

 

[IFocus]

Oh couldn't leave without throwing this bit in wrong thread I know

There has been a wonderful response to my competition to find our greatest whingers. First, an honourable mention to a clutch of gormless Australian tourists stuck in Cairo and grizzling to a TV reporter that the Gillard government had abandoned them.

Canberra had sent two 747s to collect them and any other Australians eager to leave but this bunch wanted nothing less than the SAS abseiling into their room, faces blackened, weapons cocked.

Applause, too, for Peter Costello belly-aching about the government's flood levy, an iniquitous new tax. This from the former treasurer who gave us the never-ever GST and no fewer than six levies of his own.

But the standout winner this week is Kristina Keneally, with her demand that NSW taxpayers should be levied less than everybody else because we have bigger mortgages. There is no end to this woman's silliness.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...ts-time-for-a-cold-shower-20110204-1agt8.html

 

[trainspotter]

Meanwhile back at Bondi .........

SYDNEYSIDERS are bracing for yet another day of baking temperatures as the record-breaking heatwave continues to sizzle across the state.

Temperatures are due to hit 41C in parts of western Sydney on Saturday while along the coast, beachgoers can expect highs of up to 36C.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...s-into-sixth-day/story-e6frf7kf-1226000593695

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Its stopped raining, and its a beautiful day, though a bit cloudy, nice breeze, not a Green in sight.

gg

 

[IFocus]

February 2, 2011
Arctic Oscillation brings record low January extent, unusual mid-latitude weather

Overview of conditions

Arctic sea ice extent averaged over January 2011 was 13.55 million square kilometers (5.23 million square miles). This was the lowest January ice extent recorded since satellite records began in 1979. It was 50,000 square kilometers (19,300 square miles) below the record low of 13.60 million square kilometers (5.25 million square miles), set in 2006, and 1.27 million square kilometers (490,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.

Ice extent in January 2011 remained unusually low in Hudson Bay, Hudson Strait (between southern Baffin Island and Labrador), and Davis Strait (between Baffin Island and Greenland). Normally, these areas freeze over by late November, but this year Hudson Bay did not completely freeze over until mid-January. The Labrador Sea remains largely ice-free.

January 2011 compared to past years

January 2011 had the lowest ice extent for the month since the beginning of satellite records. The linear rate of decline for the month is –3.3% per decade.

Ice extent for the Arctic as a whole increased at an average of 42,800 square kilometers (16,500 square miles) per day through the month of January, which is about average.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

It is perhaps one of the most beautiful evenings here in Townsville, so strange after the last weeks' storms.

A gentle breeze, blue sky, occasional distant cloud, about 26 degrees I'd guess , possibly 30 in the sun, birds are back, children playing in the pool.

All is well with the world, as it has been , and will be in the future.

gg

 

[Knobby22]

Nice graphs IFocus.

The long term trend is particuarly obvious.

2010 was the tied hottest year over the last 131 years according to NASA.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

 

[sails]

I know some here don't like Bolt, but are these facts correct?

QUEENSLAND had worse cyclones and floods a century ago, before any possibility of man-made warning. Brisbane's biggest flood was actually in 1893. Cyclone Yasi's central pressure of 922hPa is still not as low as the 914hPa of Cyclone Mahina, which killed more than 400 Queenslanders in 1899.

IN 1918, Queensland had two huge cyclones in a single year, each of which killed more people than have died in all Queensland's natural disasters this year, despite our much greater population. Cyclone Tracy in 1974 destroyed Darwin and killed 71 people.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion...-beat-their-drum/story-e6frfifx-1226000403114

The article lists a range of historical weather facts and explains that Professor Ross Garnaut is an economist. I thought he must have been a scientist, is that assumption incorrect?

If the above is true and there have been worse weather conditions than seen recently, doesn't that once again point to the likelihood that we are experiencing cycles in severe weather and are simply being hoodwinked for revenue raising?

 

[Julia]

Sails, yes, according to charts I've seen the two events you mention were indeed worse than current, so can hardly be attributed in those times to 'climate change'.

And yes, Professor Garnaut is an economist.

Go figure, as the Americans would say.

 

[sails]

Sails, yes, according to charts I've seen the two events you mention were indeed worse than current, so can hardly be attributed in those times to 'climate change'.

And yes, Professor Garnaut is an economist.

Go figure, as the Americans would say.

Thanks for the confirmation, Julia...

Yes, on so many counts this whole climate change thing is looking increasingly dodgy. I have never been convinced of it, largely because I'm suspicious when governments find a controversial issue to increase taxes. My skeptisism is steadily increasing on this and several other current issues...

 

[Logique]

This issue is so yesterday. 'FlimFlammerys' indeed!

With thanks to the Tim Blair Blog (my bolds):
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg...aph/comments/chief_commissioner/#commentsmore
"...Careful Tim. With a picture like that, some might decide that swapping the Windsors for the FlimFlammerys is the constitutional change they crave. A Gaia-given right to rule the lower classes, plus outrageous clobber for our new bunyip aristocrats like Baron Garnaut, Duchess Deveney, Sir Andrew Pitman and Lady Marieke Hardy (inherited title from gramps) will swing a lot of lefties. Needless to say, when king Timbo ordains Cardinal Brown to head the new state religion he will exhibit the mercy of Samual Marsden to non-believers, while looking rather fetching in red.
But what of our jobs, the proles will cry.... “let them serve Lattes” came down from on high.
MiltonG of Brisbane (Reply)
Thu 10 Feb 11 (01:53pm)
Flannery’s PhD is in Paleontology.
His thesis was on macropod evolution...."

 

[Julia]

Flannery’s PhD is in Paleontology.
His thesis was on macropod evolution...."

Quite so. Right up there with the government's adviser on climate change being an economist.

 

[Knobby22]

It would be nice if they chose one of the climate scientists from the Bureau of Meterology, or Nasa etc. Maybe the government thinks they haven't got the right skill set.

One thing Tim does have is a scientific background. He can read graphs showing the world is warming, the artic ice cap is melting, etc.

The critiscism seems to be that believing climate change is like being in a religion presumably being that it is based on faith and there are no facts.

In fact it is the opposite, the climate deniers are ignoring the evidence and believing the prophets of the Murdoch press mainpulating public opinion and sponsored priests. all have been exposed as frauds or corrupt one by one. Instead of attacking us all the time, read the graphs (published on this page) and tell us why we are wrong!!!!!

Is it too much to argue facts?

 

[sails]

...Is it too much to argue facts?

So why do the climate change fanatics claim climate change has been the cause of the recent natural disasters?

How do they explain the even worse disasters in the last hundred years? It doesn't make sense.

I clearly remember when my kids were young and we were holidaying at the beach. It was pouring with rain and the weather news continually stated a clear, sunny day. The frequent comments from the kids were: "If the weather people would just put their heads outside they might learn something".

Obviously the weather bureau's "charts" were up the creek...

I think that logic still applies today and even more so when there's a tax involved...

 

[Aussiejeff]

Is it too much to argue facts?

FACT -

Thus far in Feb alone we have recorded 235mm in our backyard rain guage at Wodonga. More rain is falling as I type - another 20mm or so by tonight.

Long term records show Hume Dam weather station has only ever recorded one Feb total above 200mm - being 201.2mm in 1939. The long term mean rainfall for Hume Dam in Feb is 41.3!

That means so far after only 11 days, we here have experienced well over [size=+1]5 x[/size] the annual Feb average rainfall & smashed the previous Feb record in 1939, going back to when records began in 1922!

The local House Creek has flooded badly 3 times - today being the latest.

Arguably, my opinion would be useless & pointless.

Splash on....