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basically yeah. climate change has always been racist as it only happens in white western counteries, but now its being sexist also and more racist.
basically yeah. climate change has always been racist as it only happens in white western counteries, but now its being sexist also and more racist.So, it affects everyone except white men, apparently.
Every country basically had to offshore to China. The downside was that the pollution controls were poor compared to western countries.China pumps out more pollution in eight years than UK since Industrial Revolution
CO2 emissions of 80bn tonnes from 2013 to 2020 is higher than Britain’s 78bn over 220 years
China pumps out more pollution in eight years than UK since Industrial Revolution
CO2 emissions of 80bn tonnes from 2013 to 2020 is higher than Britain’s 78bn over 220 yearswww.telegraph.co.uk
Every country basically had to offshore to China. The downside was that the pollution controls were poor compared to western countries.
We can point the finger at China, but it was western greed that allowed it.
Australia sending itself broke over climate change is also stupid. How much do we actually emit given all our carbon sinks?
I'm not talking per capita bs either.
LolEvery country basically had to offshore to China. The downside was that the pollution controls were poor compared to western countries.
We can point the finger at China, but it was western greed that allowed it.
Australia sending itself broke over climate change is also stupid. How much do we actually emit given all our carbon sinks?
I'm not talking per capita bs either.
@investor13 But, that is China, we do as we want.Lol
If the threat was some what reality pressure on china would be to use l, renewables or nuclear not so called dirty old coal! I mean they aren’t even the new clean coal technology being used in the new plants being built
China approved equivalent of two new coal plants a week in 2022, report finds
Every country basically had to offshore to China. The downside was that the pollution controls were poor compared to western countries.
We can point the finger at China, but it was western greed that allowed it.
Australia sending itself broke over climate change is also stupid. How much do we actually emit given all our carbon sinks?
I'm not talking per capita bs either.
In 2022, China installed roughly as much solar capacity as the rest of the world combined, then doubled additional solar in 2023.
Rather a lot of current problems in society ultimately come back not to being forced to offshore, but allowing it to occur.Interesting.We "had" to offshore to China ?
the pressure only applies to western countries, never a non western by the usual sprukers UN, gretta and rag piece media@investor13 But, that is China, we do as we want.
its called globalism shifting one industry to another countryRather a lot of current problems in society ultimately come back not to being forced to offshore, but allowing it to occur.
Get to the bottom of it and the housing crisis and the inability to respond to problems from climate to hospitals can all be traced back to that. We moved the means of wealth creation offshore, leaving us as China's quarry desperately hoping they keep buying coal. We filled the economic gap with debt, running down infrastructure and asset price inflation.
Once you accept that, the rest's pretty straightforward. The ultimate example of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and one that, rationally, both sides of politics ought find common ground on since it's not to anyone's benefit in the long term.
The great hoax of "per capita". Let's lower our emissions by importing in millions of people. We can fudge numbers on so many political metrics that way.its called globalism shifting one industry to another country
, the housing shortage is caused but endless migration some 700k plus last 12 months over 300k in the first 3 months alone according to the government's own ABS, causing massive slogging up of hospitals and government not building new ones.
the climate has nothing to do with any of this except for utter stupid politicians and endless red tape
you know humans are the largest driver of the so-called hoax of climate change, why do Western countries have to keep accepting millions of millions a year yet we have to meet net zero?
why are nonwestern countries allowed to omit all they want? if trash like renewables were any good why don't those countries invest in those or nuclear or even clean coal technology, over old-tech coal?
believing the world is end ending is like believing that Santa delivers presents to the majority of households every year at chrismas time
Had to.... Think local is going to survive in the face of such a discrepancy in price?Interesting.We "had" to offshore to China ? Perhaps another way of seeing it was that industries discovered they could pick up whatever widgets they needed far cheaper in China than they could make in the US/Australia. They still made their profits , and then more, and didn't have to worry about employing people.
The poor pollution controls in China ? Absolutely. China suffered from disastrous pollution fuelled by this intensive industrialisation. Should The West have taken firmer action to ensure pollution controls in China were adequate to protect the environment and peoples health? Hell, just achieving that goal in our own countries was a mammoth effort given the constant fights against businesses complaining about such greenie sentiments.
In that context it's so interesting to see Western reaction to China's current push to move decisively to cleaner production and renewable energy and technology industry. How positive has it been ?
How China Became the World’s Leader on Renewable Energy
China has achieved stunning growth in its installed renewable capacity over the last two decades, far outpacing the rest of the world. But to end its continued dependence on fossil fuels, it must now move ahead with planned reforms to its national electricity system.
By Isabel Hilton • March 13, 2024
Last November, Chinese climate envoy Xie Zhenhua and U.S. climate envoy John Kerry shook hands on a pledge to triple renewable energy globally by 2030. It was hailed as a welcome revival of climate cooperation between the world’s biggest and second-biggest emitters of greenhouse gases and offered hope that the two veteran climate negotiators had found a way through a blizzard of negative diplomatic exchanges to keep alive the prospects for greater global ambition on tackling climate change.
In one key sector essential to that ambition, however, the Chinese government can argue, with some justification, that it is China, not the United States, that is in the lead. In a world in which national climate targets are being missed, the speed and scale of expansion in China’s installed renewable capacity is unmatched.
In 2020, for example, China pledged to reach 1,200 gigawatts of renewables capacity by 2030, more than double its capacity at that time. At its present pace, it will meet that target by 2025, and could boast as much as 1,000 gigawatts of solar power alone by the end of 2026, an achievement that would make a substantial contribution to the 11,000 gigawatts of installed renewable capacity that the world needs to meet the 2030 targets of the Paris Agreement. Fossil fuels now make up less than half of China’s total installed generation capacity, a dramatic reduction from a decade ago when fossil fuels accounted for two-thirds of its power capacity.
When the International Energy Authority issued its assessment of the pledge to triple renewables globally by 2030, it pointed out that the 50 percent increase in global renewable installations in 2023 was largely driven by China. In 2022, China installed roughly as much solar photovoltaic capacity as the rest of the world combined, then went on in 2023 to double new solar installations, increase new wind capacity by 66 percent, and almost quadruple additions of energy storage.
For the past two decades, China has been notorious as the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, a country that also uses as much heavily polluting coal as the rest of the world combined. How did it also become the world’s renewable powerhouse?
Part of the answer goes back to investment decisions made in the mid-2000s when China’s decades-long phase of rapid GDP growth was coming to an end. Labor costs were rising, and China’s development model, with its overwhelming dependence on coal, had plunged China into multiple crises of air, soil, and water pollution. In the first decade of this century, China’s emissions more than doubled, and by 2006 it had overtaken the U.S. to earn the unwelcome title of the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases by volume.
China’s leadership was alert to the negative diplomatic impacts of being the world’s worst polluter, especially in those countries most vulnerable to climate impacts. At the same time, China’s own exposure to climate change effects, on top of its escalating pollution crisis and the public unrest it was generating, was becoming a significant topic in Beijing’s top-level policy discussions. China’s planners were looking for investments that would create an opportunity for a more advanced technological future, and this coincided with the need to clean up China’s environment and the global effort to cut emissions. All this pointed to supporting the development of the renewable technologies the world would need if it was to avoid climate catastrophe.
In the next and every subsequent five-year plan, China made strategic investments in all aspects of renewable technologies, from solar and wind capacity, green hydrogen, and geothermal projects to research and investment in battery storage and its supply chains. In the first phase of its rapid industrial development starting in the 1990s, China had been obliged to license technologies owned by others. Now the strategic ambition was to dominate the field, positioning China as the global supplier of goods to an increasingly carbon-constrained world.
How China Became the World’s Leader on Renewable Energy
China has achieved stunning growth in its installed renewable capacity over the last two decades, far outpacing the rest of the world. But to end its continued dependence on fossil fuels, it must now move ahead with planned reforms to its national electricity system.e360.yale.edu
I had to read that three times.No country in the world comes close to matching China's development of renewable energy.
There are two sides to every coin.
China building twice as much wind and solar power as rest of world – report
Country on track reach 1,200GW of installed wind and solar capacity by end of 2024 – six years ahead of Beijing’s target
The amount of wind and solar power under construction in China is now nearly twice as much as the rest of the world combined, a report has found.
Research published on Thursday by Global Energy Monitor (GEM), an NGO, found that China has 180 gigawatts (GW) of utility-scale solar power under construction and 15GW of wind power. That brings the total of wind and solar power under construction to 339GW, well ahead of the 40GW under construction in the US.
The researchers only looked at solar farms with a capacity of 20MW or more, which feed directly into the grid. That means that the total volume of solar power in China could be much higher, as small scale solar farms account for about 40% of China’s solar capacity.
The findings underscore China’s leading position in global renewable energy production at a time when the US is increasingly worried about Chinese overcapacity and dumping, particularly in the solar industry.
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China building two-thirds of world’s wind and solar projects
Country on track reach 1,200GW of installed wind and solar capacity by end of 2024 – six years ahead of Beijing’s targetwww.theguardian.com
I had to read that three times.
If there is 180GW of solar power under construction, and 15 GW of Wind, , thats a total of 195 gW of wind and solar under construction.
So where does the figure quoted of 338.9 GW of wind and solar under construction under construction come from??
Mick
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