Well firstly Luutzu congratulations on continuing the conversation with Cynic and Noco on what are the most rock solid basics of CC
1) It's real, it's currently overwhelmingly caused by human produced greenhouse gases and it's going to get much worse
2) This reality is acknowledged by the overwhelmingly number of scientists who study the climate and the effects of climate change on our eco systems.
The last pages of pseudo scientific rubbish and outright denial from Cynic and Noco just demonstrate the cognitive impairment that has happened to millions of people as result of a determined disinformation campaign. Yet not a single word of this rubbish will alter the consequences of global warming.
But I'm equally sure that whatever happens in our real world, melting icecaps, record temperatures, collapsing ecosytsems, rising sea levels, the same litany of denial will be rinsed and repeated. If the proponents of this misinformation were ever accessible to demonstrated facts and even the principles of managing perceived risk this "argument" would be long gone.
The funny thing about this post is, that, with the exception of the last eight words, I could have wholeheartedly agreed with the entirety of its content!The thing that amazes me is that this thread has gone 466 pages to date.
What should be obvious from the evidence is still being denied by people who should know better, cockeyed optimists or who simply stick their head in the sand because they can't handle bad news.
You just can't tell some people no matter how hard you try, but I think the deniers are looking weaker by the year as the temperature records continue to be broken.
A chart illustrating 60 years of data ?!!!Poor Cynic gets his religion and science mixed up.
I believe that the contents of my post#9291 will probably serve as ample response should you care to consider them.Well firstly Luutzu congratulations on continuing the conversation with Cynic and Noco on what are the most rock solid basics of CC
1) It's real, it's currently overwhelmingly caused by human produced greenhouse gases and it's going to get much worse
2) This reality is acknowledged by the overwhelmingly number of scientists who study the climate and the effects of climate change on our eco systems.
The last pages of pseudo scientific rubbish and outright denial from Cynic and Noco just demonstrate the cognitive impairment that has happened to millions of people as result of a determined disinformation campaign. Yet not a single word of this rubbish will alter the consequences of global warming.
But I'm equally sure that whatever happens in our real world, melting icecaps, record temperatures, collapsing ecosytsems, rising sea levels, the same litany of denial will be rinsed and repeated. If the proponents of this misinformation were ever accessible to demonstrated facts and even the principles of managing perceived risk this "argument" would be long gone.
Don't worry Cynic.
The data shows the CO2 in the atmosphere and in the ocean.
I found the source for you.
The Pope faked it.by stealing Santa's sleigh stopping time and deliberately modifying all the measuring instruments.
Here is all you need to know about the 97% myth.
We feel the same way that polar bear does noco.
Here's the thing... if we're to be tricked and lied to, wouldn't we rather it be the lies those commie greenies socialist and their "Climate Change"?
I mean, they're using "science" and "facts" and their fancy research with their big titles earned after years of studies... those eggheads... all so that we could breathe clean air, drink clean water and not get swept away here, there, everywhere to our doom.
What psychos! Just like our parents lying and tricking us into eating our veggies and not running with scissors or take candies from strangers.
Screw that! Give me a strangers with lots of lollies wanting me to enjoy it in his van any day. He doesn't scare me with "spiders" and "worm" eating my teeth if I don't brush! He's telling me that I could keep doing exactly what I've been doing - enjoying life and buying his stuff.
oh yea, there's so much bs and outright lies in that video noco. It's as if the guy just make up stuff as he goes along.
We feel the same way that polar bear does noco.
Here's the thing... if we're to be tricked and lied to, wouldn't we rather it be the lies those commie greenies socialist and their "Climate Change"?
I mean, they're using "science" and "facts" and their fancy research with their big titles earned after years of studies... those eggheads... all so that we could breathe clean air, drink clean water and not get swept away here, there, everywhere to our doom.
What psychos! Just like our parents lying and tricking us into eating our veggies and not running with scissors or take candies from strangers.
Screw that! Give me a strangers with lots of lollies wanting me to enjoy it in his van any day. He doesn't scare me with "spiders" and "worm" eating my teeth if I don't brush! He's telling me that I could keep doing exactly what I've been doing - enjoying life and buying his stuff.
oh yea, there's so much bs and outright lies in that video noco. It's as if the guy just make up stuff as he goes along.
Unfortunately your video did not work.Global Warming - Climate Change Facts on the ground
Perhaps worth looking at how rising sea levels driven by global warming are affecting Florida. The key issue is what happens when people realise their properties are going under and will effectively be worthless? When does realty sink in ?
Back to Canberra Times
The nightmare scenario for Florida’s coastal homeowners – sea levels rising
Apr 21, 2017 Christopher Flavelle
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On a predictably gorgeous South Florida afternoon, Coral Gables mayor Jim Cason sat in his office overlooking the white-linen restaurants of this affluent seaside community and wondered when climate change would bring it all to an end. He figured it would involve a boat.
When Cason first started worrying about sea-level rise, he asked his staff to count not just how much coastline the city had (75 kilometres) or value of the property along that coast ($4.65 billion). He also told them to find out how many boats dock inland from the bridges that span the city’s canals (302). What matters, he guessed, will be the first time a mast fails to clear the bottom of one of those bridges because the water level had risen too far.
“These boats are going to be the canary in the mine,” said Cason, who became mayor in 2011 after retiring from the U.S. foreign service. “When the boats can’t go out, the property values go down.”
If property values start to fall, Cason said, banks could stop writing 30-year mortgages for coastal homes, shrinking the pool of able buyers and sending prices lower still. Those properties make up a quarter of the city’s tax base; if that revenue fell, the city would struggle to provide the services that make it such a desirable place to live, causing more sales and another drop in revenue.
And all of that could happen before the rising sea consumes a single home.
http://www.allhomes.com.au/news/the...homeowners-sea-levels-rising-20170421-gvp5t8/
So if we are looking at videos re Climate Change as Liberal Hoax consider the contribution of Noam Chomsky
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