Resisting Climate Hysteria

[sptrawler]

I reckon you will see it happen by next year at this rate , April has been cooking down here in Tasmania and another record braking month is well on the cards .

Well the ice melt might help the rainfall.

Maybe we should all open our fridges?

 

[Ijustnewit]

Well the ice melt might help the rainfall.

Maybe we should all open our fridges?

Actually it just might cool the waters down here allowing more cold fronts to hit us ? They are being driven South by the warm waters surrounding Tassie due to warm sea current changes and made worse by the current El Nino. No cold fronts = no rain for Tasmania.
I did try the fridge trick and found two problems , the first one the beer goes warm and the second one it keeps beeping at me.

 

[basilio]

Just some reminders of

1) What scientists have understood about the effects of greenhouse gases
2) When the Oil Industry was aware of this information
3) What they did about it since then

The Climate Deception Dossiers (2015)
Internal fossil fuel industry memos reveal decades of disinformation””a deliberate campaign to deceive the public that continues even today.
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For nearly three decades, many of the world's largest fossil fuel companies have knowingly worked to deceive the public about the realities and risks of climate change.

Their deceptive tactics are now highlighted in this set of seven "deception dossiers"””collections of internal company and trade association documents that have either been leaked to the public, come to light through lawsuits, or been disclosed through Freedom of Information (FOIA) requests.

Each collection provides an illuminating inside look at this coordinated campaign of deception, an effort underwritten by ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, BP, Shell, Peabody Energy, and other members of the fossil fuel industry.

UPDATE (July 9, 2015): As this report went to press, a newly discovered email from a former Exxon employee revealed that the company was already factoring climate change into decisions about new fossil fuel extraction as early as 1981. Learn more.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...deception-dossiers-fossil-fuel-industry-memos

can't say we havn't been told can we ?

 

[basilio]

We don't have to go back to the caves to reduce our greenhouse gas impact.

Is it possible to reduce CO2 emissions and grow the global economy?

Yale Environment 360: Surprising new statistics show that the world economy is expanding while global carbon emissions remain at the same level. Is it possible that the elusive ‘decoupling’ of emissions and economic growth could be happening?

Friday 15 April 2016 00.04 AEST
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The statistic is startling. In the past two years, the global economy has grown by 6.5 percent, but carbon dioxide emissions from energy generation and transport have not grown at all, the International Energy Agency (IEA) reported last month. CO2 emissions in Europe, the United States, and ”” most stunningly ”” China have been falling. What is going on?

These numbers raise a key question of huge importance if nations are to avoid the worst effects of climate change: Is the world on a path toward “decoupling” economic activity from carbon dioxide emissions?

Put another way: Is the idea of a future of “green growth,” with prosperity rising and emissions falling, real? Or as some fear, is it a dangerous myth?

When the United Nations holds an official signing ceremony for the Paris climate agreement on April 22, the hope is this high-profile event will ensure political momentum for meeting the Paris pledge to halt global warming at “well below” two degrees Celsius. But even climate scientists elated by the Paris agreement agree that, even with political will, the task will be extremely tough. Many are unsure whether to be optimists, keen to show the job can be done, or pessimists, determined to ensure nobody thinks it will be easy.

In its analysis last month, the IEA, a body linked with the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), reported that global CO2 emissions from energy-related activities have not risen since 2013, staying at 32.1 billion tons even as the global economy grew.

This surprising “decoupling” of emissions from economic activity was led by the two largest emitters, China and the U.S., which both registered declines in emissions of about 1.5 percent.

The IEA finding followed a similar conclusion about global emissions from an international team of climate scientists, headed by Corinne le Quere of the University of East Anglia in England, reported during the Paris climate conference last December.

A good part of the decoupling, both studies agree, is attributable to China. Its turnaround has been “quite remarkable,” says Fergus Green, an analyst of China’s energy policy at the London School of Economics. The country’s coal use grew annually by more than 8 percent between 2000 and 2013, and that growth was the biggest single cause of rising global CO2 emissions. As recently as 2011, China got 80 percent of its electricity from coal.

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...uce-co2-emissions-and-grow-the-global-economy

 

[basilio]

On the other hand if we don't take action we might have to live in caves again...

Climate change: website reveals which homes will be swamped by rising sea levels

Coastal Risk Australia combines Google Maps with detailed tide and elevation data, as well as future sea level rise projections

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Friday 15 April 2016 06.53 AEST
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For the first time, Australians can see on a map how rising sea levels will affect their house just by typing their address into a website. And they’ll soon be able to get an estimate of how much climate change will affect their property prices and insurance premiums, too.

Launched on Friday, the website Coastal Risk Australia takes Google Maps and combines it with detailed tide and elevation data, as well as future sea level rise projections, allowing users to see whether their house or suburb will be inundated.

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...ch-homes-will-be-swamped-by-rising-sea-levels

 

[Knobby22]

Cool website, Basilio.
There are such things as sea walls though. I doubt the government will let the CBD get swamped.
The areas of concern are more in coastal zones away from the major cities.

 

[pixel]

What's new?
If Tobacco companies and Asbestos floggers could lie and get away with mass murder, why should the oil and coal companies be any different?

There is money to be made today! Who cares about tomorrow?

Let the survivors - if any - deal with the effects at a future date.

 

[basilio]

There are such things as sea walls though. I doubt the government will let the CBD get swamped.
The areas of concern are more in coastal zones away from the major cities.

And how high is this sea wall? One metre ? Two metres ? Five metres ? How wide does it go ? How deep are the foundations ? What do you do about ground water coming under the wall ?

Sorry this will never happen in the longer term. I'm sure many cities will start to build walls to protect themselves from rising sea levels. But because this is a long term issue solutions can only work for 30-50 years at maximum before the walls are topped.

And anyway. Melbourne will be stuffed as a city when the Western and Eastern sewage works are flooded. Or some other vital piece of infrastructure. Same thing will happen to other cities. You are only as strong as your weakest critical link.

 

[Smurf1976]

I did try the fridge trick and found two problems , the first one the beer goes warm and the second one it keeps beeping at me.

If the beer starts beeping then that means you've already drunk too much of it.

If it's the fridge that's beeping then thankfully there's a solution. Power point. Switch. Off.

 

[Ijustnewit]

If the beer starts beeping then that means you've already drunk too much of it.

If it's the fridge that's beeping then thankfully there's a solution. Power point. Switch. Off.

Hi Smurf , no sign of any rain yet despite the constant forecast of showers. One things for certain I'll need cold beer next week when Hobart is forecast to still have days around 25 degrees as we head into late April. Amazingly warm and won't do the water supplies any favours with that heat. Lots of back burning this week over this side of the river , word has it the Eastern shores turn is next week. Anyway still no significant rainfall even on the 30 day forecast and just more hot sunny days.
Maybe the tipping point on climate change has already tipped in Tasmania ? It's certainly copping a beating this year.

 

[SirRumpole]

Interesting article

Climate change has dropped off the political radar (and this is a big problem)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-...e-has-dropped-off-the-political-radar/7328538

 

[Ijustnewit]

There was an interesting article last week in the local Hobart paper that basically said the Salmon Fisheries are having a hard time due to the warming waters of Tasmania. In fact I think it won't be to much longer before the fishery has to move their growing pens way further South of the State or face closure.
Which brings me to this article today about the warm waters off Tasmania now are warm enough to support tropical species of large pelagic fish.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-16/massive-swordfish-caught-off-tasmania/7331238

 

[Smurf1976]

Climate change has dropped off the political radar (and this is a big problem)

The inevitable consequence of too many silly claims that should never have been made and which haven't come true.

Remember that nonsense about dams never filling up again? That's the sort of rubbish which puts people off the entire issue unfortunately.

 

[wayneL]

The inevitable consequence of too many silly claims that should never have been made and which haven't come true.

Remember that nonsense about dams never filling up again? That's the sort of rubbish which puts people off the entire issue unfortunately.

Exactly, It also put people off every other (real) environmental issue.

 

[Ijustnewit]

The inevitable consequence of too many silly claims that should never have been made and which haven't come true.

Remember that nonsense about dams never filling up again? That's the sort of rubbish which puts people off the entire issue unfortunately.

I agree 100% , things are changing for sure . But it's the way out extremist claims and doomsday predictions that are clouding the real science.

 

[basilio]

Yep absolutely nothing to worry about here.

Move along folks.

Life will be good .

Nothing bad will happen.

The dams are not empty.

Believe whatever makes you happy...

 

[wayneL]

Yep absolutely nothing to worry about here.

Move along folks.

Life will be good .

Nothing bad will happen.

The dams are not empty.

Believe whatever makes you happy...

You just love your argumentative fallacy bas, don't you?

 

[basilio]

March temperature smashes 100-year global record

Average global temperature was 1.07C hotter - beating last month’s previous record increase
An illustration shows that 2015 was the hottest year since 1880.

Damian Carrington
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The global temperature in March has shattered a century-long record and by the greatest margin yet seen for any month.

February was far above the long-term average globally, driven largely by climate change, and was described by scientists as a “shocker” and signalling “a kind of climate emergency”. But data released by the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) shows that March was even hotter.

Compared with the 20th-century average, March was 1.07C hotter across the globe, according to the JMA figures, while February was 1.04C higher. The JMA measurements go back to 1891 and show that every one of the past 11 months has been the hottest ever recorded for that month.

Data released released later on Friday by Nasa confirmed last month was the hottest March on record, but the US agency’s data indicated February had seen the biggest margin. The Nasa data recorded March as 1.65C above the average from 1951-1980, while February was 1.71C higher.

The World Meteorological Organisation, the UN body for climate and weather, said the March data had “smashed” previous records.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/15/march-temperature-smashes-100-year-global-record

The frogs are cooking Wayne et al. But if you keep your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears you can still keep ignoring it.

 

[wayneL]

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/15/march-temperature-smashes-100-year-global-record

The frogs are cooking Wayne et al. But if you keep your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears you can still keep ignoring it.

Frogs legs! Mmmmmmmm!

 

[explod]

I agree 100% , things are changing for sure . But it's the way out extremist claims and doomsday predictions that are clouding the real science.

Disagree here, even many of the scientists have been understating the problem to ensure thier funding And the IPCC has been shown to be at least 5 years behind developments. This is because most governments owe thier positions to the petro, coal, oil and gas lobbies support.