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I'd rather listen to the opinions of those with the knowledge in the area of climate science than to your good self and noco with very little.
Evidence?
Well yeah, we had a minor ice age with ended approximately 150 years age. The world has warmed from that cold period... must have been all those candles, eh?
Since then, the evidence has been subject to what can only euphemistically be described as "adjustment".
The warmists have actually done us all a disservice by causing critical thinkers to doubt their corrupted science and question their motives.
You might want to take another look at the "evidence".
It will of course show warming, but with critical thinking cap on, the picture will be a bit different.
I'd rather listen to the opinions of those with the knowledge in the area of climate science than to your good self and noco with very little.
And how do you know that?
This thread has taken a turn for the worse.
Case point example ...
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/10/...lesson-in-why-it-is-a-disaster-to-vote-green/
I've worked it out. I've worked it all out...
At some benighted stage some political party left of Genghis Khan will gain power... somewhere
Whatever xhit is happening with global warming, melting of the ice caps, cities under threat , etc, etc there is now a golden opportunity to place all blame onto the green menace
It will all be the fault of THE GREENS
No history, no causation, no thinking, nufink.
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I read the tripe that TS used as some sort of excuse to trash the greens. Enough said...
PPS. Is anyone remotely interested in having a look at the post I ran highlighting the latest review of how quickly Antarctica is melting and the consequences ? Too scary ? Too challenging ?
I'd rather listen to the opinions of those with the knowledge in the area of climate science than to your good self and noco with very little.
Plod asked how do we know that. I placed up a case point example which you ignored.
Google ... record cold winter in the Northern Hemisphere
You contiually straw pick without accepting underlying cause and effect.
Yes a record cold winter in the north but it is occuring down to more southern regions. Why? Because it is actually warmer at the poles which makes more moisture rise into the atmosphere which creates the increase in storms heading south. Snow will fall when conditions are around zero so at the poles a few degrees warmer is still extrordinarily cold. However this season where it normally hits 50 below there were recordings of zero. This is 50 Celsius above normal. This alarming discrepancy is creating huge changes and volatility in our weather.
But of course our dear friends of oil, gas and coal will paper over with simplification and garbage, oh and name calling and any other embicilliafication that can help to confuse the crowd.
Increasingly though, the crowd are waking up that things are not right. Just ask a Phillipino or Fijian
Hollywood actor Leonardo DiCaprio may be banned from returning to Indonesia following his criticisms that palm oil plantations are destroying the country's rainforests and endangering wildlife, an immigration official says.
The Oscar winner recently made a one-day visit to protected Mount Leuser National Park in northern Sumatra and uploaded photos to his Instagram account, expressing concerns over species whose habitats are threatened.
"The expansion of palm oil plantations is fragmenting the forest and cutting off key elephant migration corridors," he posted.
"A world-class biodiversity hotspot, but palm oil expansion is destroying this unique place."
Heru Santoso, the spokesman for the Directorate General for Immigration at the Law and Human Rights Ministry, said that DiCaprio used his visit to discredit the palm oil industry and the Indonesian government.
"We support his concern to save the Leuser ecosystem," Santoso said on Saturday.
"But we can blacklist him from returning to Indonesia at any time if he keeps posting incitement or provocative statements in his social media."
Slash-and-burn practices destroy huge areas of Indonesian forest every year during the dry season, creating haze that pollutes neighbouring countries and causes massive economic losses, as well as contributing to Indonesia's carbon dioxide emissions. The fires are often set to clear land for agriculture, including palm oil plantations. (Which I have been banging on about but no one cares)
Santoso said companies and organisations that objected to DiCaprio's comments have the right to request that immigration authorities bar him from re-entering Indonesia, though none have done so yet.
He said DiCaprio entered and left Indonesia legally with a proper visa and immigration documentation. DiCaprio and his entourage arrived on a private jet at Kualanamu Airport on the island of Sumatra on March 26, and the group took a helicopter to the protected park, and left the island a day later.
The destruction of the rainforest in Indonesia to grow palm oil is an environmental disaster on many levels.
Just no point having a conversation with you clowns is there? The destruction of the rainforest in Indonesia to grow palm oil is an environmental disaster on many levels. But don't worry about the issue. Let's just trash Leo because he wings it to Indonesia to make a point.
I know your memories are failing but just a quick recap of the graphs showing how global temperatures are increasing and the very sharp increase in the last couple of months.
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Just no point having a conversation with you clowns is there? The destruction of the rainforest in Indonesia to grow palm oil is an environmental disaster on many levels. But don't worry about the issue. Let's just trash Leo because he wings it to Indonesia to make a point.
I know your memories are failing but just a quick recap of the graphs showing how global temperatures are increasing and the very sharp increase in the last couple of months.
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Unfortunately while *you clowns* crap on about co2 emissions and spend all your time fiddling data, real environmental problem go unnoticed.
Just no point having a conversation with you clowns is there? The destruction of the rainforest in Indonesia to grow palm oil is an environmental disaster on many levels. But don't worry about the issue. Let's just trash Leo because he wings it to Indonesia to make a point.
I know your memories are failing but just a quick recap of the graphs showing how global temperatures are increasing and the very sharp increase in the last couple of months.
Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
To calculate a global average temperature, scientists begin with temperature measurements taken at locations around the globe. Because their goal is to track changes in temperature, measurements are converted from direct temperature readings to temperature anomalies-values that represent the difference between the observed temperature and the long-term average temperature for each location and date. Across inaccessible areas that have few measurements, scientists use surrounding temperatures and other information to fill in the missing values. Each value is then used to calculate a global temperature average. This process provides a consistent, reliable method for monitoring Earth's surface temperature over time.
You mean like the absurdism of QLD State government and LNP national governments pursuit of increased development of coal reserves that no Financier on the planet will touch, whilst these very conflicted proponents actively avoid the harbingers of the catastrophic consequences of their ill-guided intent occurring just off the coast.
That 'canary' in that Barrier Reef has dropped to the floor of the cage like its fellow up on the Arctic ice sheet and its singed compatriot on the highland bogs of Tasmania ...
Co2 is the problem ...leo's not.
And avoid palm oil as best you can... and Think carefully whether you want or need children regardless of what your government, culture, religion or family pressure or enthuse you to do.
So I'm left puzzled. You acknowledge the increase in temperatures. You acknowledge that CO2 (and other green house gases) are the prime cause. Where is the disagreement ?
Not only do NASA and NOAA make up fake data for much of the planet, but they massively tamper with their existing data, like this station in Siberia where they have cooled the past nearly two degrees C since 2012 – and now claim that it is two degrees C above normal.
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