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Resisting Climate Hysteria


Here is Flannery's dire prediction:

 

Just more spin doctoring , the fact is he said " even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems " . Fact is he was wrong , what about those dams and rivers in QLD that flooded ? See the latest news from NSW , wrong again .
You see the problem I have with all this is that anyone that offers a different opinion to the climate change brigade is they are immediately called a denialist or sceptic. I personally think that something is happening , the reasons may be varied from mainly natural occurring change with a little bit of added pressure due to mankind.
However the Climate change extremist do themselves no favours by pushing extremist views upon the population of this planet. Tim Flannery is one of these extremist , and by the way isn't he a Geologist last time I looked and not a Meteorologist ?
Again we today we see the ABC climate change pushes airing another article from NASA about sea levels rising to at least one meter in the next 100 to 200 years.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-27/sea-levels-set-to-rise-nasa-says/6728008
I wonder how Tim will fair in his waterside home on the Hawksbury ?
This fear based marketing is for one reason and one reason only. To make some individuals and the UN very rich from Carbon based trading schemes or similar projects.
 
Just more spin doctoring ,

EVERYTHING about this subject in this forum is spin doctoring from people who are not experts in the field. It's too complicated a topic to be left to the likes of Andrew Bolt and his devotees or Tim Flannery and his devotees. I just hope we have politicians who listen and take note of the experts rather than the amateurs.
 

Fat chance.

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I agree with attacking those Climate extremists but linking that to a scientific body - NASA -is wrong.
They are just calling it as the figures come in.

I think the Carbon based training schemes are not the right way to go and I suppose that is what Wayne is referring to when he quotes the changing Capitalism article. They should do it by regulation.
 
Knobby

I don't think our current economic model IS sustainable. It does need to, somehow, change from the current paradigm.

I strongly object to using an elaborate ruse to achieve that.
 
You see the problem I have with all this is that anyone that offers a different opinion to the climate change brigade is they are immediately called a denialist or sceptic.

Something I learned from experience many years ago is that when someone silences opposing views it is because they have an agenda to push that does not stand up to scrutiny.

The specifics in my case had nothing to do with the climate, a completely unrelated issue, but the principle applies to everything. If your case is valid then you have nothing to fear from opposing views and thorough examination of your own case. But if your case is based on falsified "facts" then you have a lot to fear and will do whatever it takes to avoid scrutiny, silencing opponents being just one tactic that is used.

Personally I do think the climate is changing and that CO2 probably is having an effect. But it did rain and some dams did fill to capacity and beyond, that's a fact.
 
I just hope we have politicians who listen and take note of the experts rather than the amateurs.

Therein lies the problem. They choose the "experts" that agree with their own "inexpert" opinion or one that is politically aligned to assist with their efforts to stay elected.

Remember too: Definition of an expert.... Ex is something from the past. Spurt is a drip out of control. Then again a lot of politicians are drips out of control.
 
The current record temperatures around the world are having the (in)evitable effect on ocean temperatures and the subsequent creation of hurricanes.

And the hurricanes themeselves will drive global temperatures even higher.
 
Thanks Basilio

I also noticed from the same paper that Australia broke its record for early cyclones by getting one in July near the Solomons! The water temperature rise is quite large. A little scary. I wouldn't want to live in FNQ this summer.
 
The current record temperatures around the world are having the (in)evitable effect on ocean temperatures and the subsequent creation of hurricanes.

And the hurricanes themeselves will drive global temperatures even higher.

Bahahahahahaaaaaaaa how does a hurricane drive global temperatures higher?


http://www.economics21.org/commentary/hurricanes-katrina-facts

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...-10-myths-about-global-warming-and-co2-damage

http://www.skepticalscience.com/hurricanes-global-warming.htm


And now for the truth http://www.prh.noaa.gov/cphc/summaries/

But but but they even admit to errors !! http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/verification/

WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

This can't be right now can it?? Mellow 2014 Hurricane season??


http://www.livescience.com/48943-quiet-2014-hurricane-season-ends.html

But wait for it NASA has the answer ...


http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/06oct_abyss/

And now for the sledgehammer ... http://www.weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/three-category-4-hurricanes-pacific-kilo-ignacio-jimena

 
It's interesting what you can find on the net TS I decided to check out the economics21 reference and discovered it was another mouthpiece for the Marshall Institute - a run of the mill climate denier group. In that same article I noted the following comment

http://www.economics21.org/commentary/hurricanes-katrina-facts


How do the hurricanes actually create a feed back loop? The comment from the article I originally sited said

 
What is happening with Climate Change NOW? Rolling Stone magazine has a story that brings together the current effects of global warming around the world.


The rest of the story gets even hairier.
 

So the http://www.canberratimes.com.au/envi ...#ixzz3kUAnEFU6 is better than ...

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/cphc/summaries/

NASA vs Journo scribe ... REALLY ??


Get me some links to whatever you are having please
 
What is happening with Climate Change NOW? Rolling Stone magazine has a story that brings together the current effects of global warming around the world.

The rest of the story gets even hairier.

Said I ... "I had my first meal of Wookie tonight"

Said She ... "How was it?"

Said Me ... "A little Chewy!"

 
So the http://www.canberratimes.com.au/envi ...#ixzz3kUAnEFU6 is better than ...

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/cphc/summaries/

NASA vs Journo scribe ... REALLY ??

Get me some links to whatever you are having please
The unusual flurry discussed in the Canberra Times is three Cat 4 hurricanes in the North Pacific at the same time.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=3096 (Scroll past discussion of Atlantic hurricanes)

The NOAA summaries are of named storms per season. Nothing to say whether any of them were simultaneous.
 
What irritates me is the the inability of the climate establishment to out things into proper context rather than rushing to breathless sensationalism designed to alarm the uninformed.

For instance, the Rolling Stones article which the the baslios of this world are only to happy to promulgate contain a reference to the "Hottest July day ever", which on further analysis seems to contain a few holes.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/reviewing-the-hottest-day/

...and it's London to a brick that the Grauniad's servers due to the hot air from from their team of alarmists mouths, rather than any weather event.
 

When I was in my twenties and knew even more than I do now (in one's teens and twenties a man absorbs knowledge through his skin), I met up with my venerable counterpart from Victoria. I liked this guy, because he was like really freeking old, say 60, but he was cool driving around in his flashy coupe in the streets of Melbourne. He was one of those guys who had an allegoric yarn for life and beyond.

One that stuck with me was along these lines:

"life is like a dung beetle. You wander around picking up little pieces of dung from here, from there, you have to navigate hazards and get your feet muddied, all in an effort to get the best of the best. You spend ages adding the dung to the ball and watch it grow and grow until it's big enough and from rolling it relentlessly into a sphere of awe and beauty. You stand back and marvel at your creation, a thing of beauty, you are a God, someone who possess' the knowledge of the universe, seriously there is no other who has such immense prowess, a skilled artisan.... then some spolier comes along and flattens it with one step of his size 9 boot ...."
 
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