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1. Whack-a-mole.For your interest:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/...manipulating-temperature-records/#more-114854
Comments please.
This report presents an exploration of Australian temperature trends and variability using the new Australian Climate Observations Reference Network (ACORN) Surface Air Temperature (SAT) dataset. We compare changes in nationally and annually averaged daily-maximum, daily- minimum and daily-mean temperature variability to a range of alternative Australian temperature analyses over the last 100 years (1911-2010).
"For this purpose, we use raw unhomogenised data, as well as a range of high-quality homogenised sub-network and whole-network analysis grids, to explore the sensitivity of the temperature changes over time to the choice of analysis method, selection of sites used in the observational network, and homogenisation techniques.
Right, where did the mole whacker go?:
Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise in most countries. Figures out this week show Australia's largest contributor - the power sector - had its fastest growth of emissions in the last two months since the end of the carbon price in almost eight years.
The researchers' model included other potential causes of unusual temperatures - solar radiation, volcanic activity, El Niño Southern Oscillation weather patterns in the Pacific - to test out human contribution.
The paper said periods of slowing growth or even drops in temperature had been taken up by climate sceptics to raise doubts about the link between rising concentrations of greenhouse gases and warming.
In fact, the model found "one would expect a far greater number of short periods of falling temperatures (as observed since 1998) if climate change was not occurring.
"the question is not that we have 11 (such periods of cooling in the surveyed period) but why don't we have more of them," Dr Howden said. "If it wasn't for human influence of greenhouse gas emissions, we'd actually have a lot more."
Page 3 of The Age, 5/09/2014
So if that report were true then the Antarctic ice should be melting resulting in sea rises.
But according to the latest reports, it indicates the sea ice around Antarctica is expanding to record levels.
The Alarmist have all gone into hiding lately.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...imate-scientists/story-e6frg6xf-1227058298989
So if that report were true then the Antarctic ice should be melting resulting in sea rises.
But according to the latest reports, it indicates the sea ice around Antarctica is expanding to record levels.
The Alarmist have all gone into hiding lately.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...imate-scientists/story-e6frg6xf-1227058298989
The link would not allow me access noco so perhaps you can explain.
The increase in ice is about a metre thick and seasonally comes and goes. What we are losing and of mounting concern is the permanent ice pack. The other is its braking up underneath which in turn is allowing increased amounts of methane to escape.
Yes there is not much happening yet on sea rising but when one looks at what is happening collectively an acceleration and warming can be reasonably expected to occur soon. But the bigger issue in my mind is that at that stage it will be far too late to correct.
New data released Thursday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration showed that Earth’s oceans reached a level last month not seen since humans have been keeping comprehensive records. Global ocean temperatures in August 2014 warmed to “the largest departure from average for any month on record” according to a NOAA statement. The previous record was set just two months ago, in June 2014.
Additionally, the combined temperature of June, July, and August was also unprecedented in historical records. According to the JMA, four of the last five months have now been record-breaking for that particular month. (July was No. 2, just a hair behind the super-charged El Niño year of 1998.) The eastern United States is among the only land areas on Earth still running below normal for 2014, a legacy of the polar vortex outbreaks of earlier this year.
For four days in a row this week, sea ice surrounding Antarctica has broken all-time records. But””get this””the ice is expanding, not shrinking.
First, let’s distinguish between sea ice and land ice. Since sea ice floats in the ocean, its growth or melt doesn’t affect global sea levels. Antarctic land ice, on the other hand, does contribute to sea level rise, and it’s losing volume at a record pace. In fact, a frightening study earlier this year found that a key glacier in West Antarctica has entered an inevitable, slow-motion collapse phase, with dire consequences for the world’s coastal cities. A follow-up study last month for the first time put an upper bounds on the impacts of melting Antarctic glaciers in our children’s lifetimes.
Even though there's been more ice, the Southern Ocean is warming, not cooling.
For more than a decade, Naomi Klein has been calling attention to the invisible, abstract concerns that hide in the shadows of global trade: the exploitation of far-off workers, the environmental destruction, the corruption that contorts political systems. In her latest book, This Changes Everything, Klein tackles the unintended but inevitable consequence of fueling GDP with oil and gas and coal: a destabilized climate.
These days, the prevailing mood in response to climate change seems to be one of despair. It's too late. The problem is too massive. But Klein sees something else. She sees a possibility: that a more humane economy can be shaped by aggressively combating climate change. I spoke with her about the opportunity to transform society at the precipice of calamity. A lightly edited transcript of our conversation follows.
Anyway's hope wherever you are , your watering system is in place and have an air con in every room. It's going to be a long stinker of Summer heat.
Well I've got a garden hose and a portable fan. Does that count?
As for the rain, well that's just not happening really. Some rain yes, but not as much as would be considered normal and we're almost at the end of the season so far as runoff and ground moisture is concerned.
Assuming no major fires etc, the biggest weather-related problem we're facing in Tas going forward is financial. Not good.
Naomi Klein does not appear to have any credentials relating to Climate Change......she is the Grand Daughter of communists......she is anti Israel.......and anti Capitalism.
She is a devout writer for the socialist Guardian News Paper.
Is it any wonder she is an alarmist...her profile tells it all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein
And here is the profile of Eric Holthaus.
On the other side, it turns out that putting a price on carbon would have large “co-benefits” — positive effects over and above the reduction in climate risks — and that these benefits would come fairly quickly. The most important of these co-benefits, according to the I.M.F. paper, would involve public health: burning coal causes many respiratory ailments, which drive up medical costs and reduce productivity.
And thanks to these co-benefits, the paper argues, one argument often made against carbon pricing — that it’s not worth doing unless we can get a global agreement — is wrong. Even without an international agreement, there are ample reasons to take action against the climate threat.
So here’s what you need to know: Climate despair is all wrong. The idea that economic growth and climate action are incompatible may sound hardheaded and realistic, but it’s actually a fuzzy-minded misconception. If we ever get past the special interests and ideology that have blocked action to save the planet, we’ll find that it’s cheaper and easier than almost anyone imagines.
So when 3 different Government organisations, from 2 very different countries, all say that the records they have collected and reviewed are showing ocean temperature at their highest levels in recorded history, you outright reject this as some fabian socialist communist plot against humanity? Next you'll be telling me some big man in the sky controls everything and it's all just intelligent design.
Then you latch onto an increase in sea ice as some proof against global warming, when the actual ice melt from antarctica has continued to increase and waters have continued to warm. Are they making the figures up? Are you just choosing to believe what The Australian tells you above all else?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/o...eap-and-free.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&_r=0
Paul Krugman is a Professor of economics and has no climate change credentials.
He is a Social Democrat who believes in Keynesian economics.
One could not credence in what he states.
So you reject these articles based on the lack of climate change credentials from the author, fair enough I say. But at the same time you posted today a piece by Rick Morton from The Australian who is just a social affairs journalist and has no such climate change credentials. You in this very thread have posted Andrew Bolt who is as extreme right as the crazy tea party from America, as though he is some Nobel prize winning climate scientist when he is just a racist media commentator.
So while it's very noble of you to proclaim you only accept evidence from experts it would appear you need to have a complete revamp on where you choose your sources as evidence to continue your climate denial.
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