Resisting Climate Hysteria

[Whiskers]

My preference is for stable but regardless of global warming I don't know if that is realistic.

If you don't know if that is realistic, you make my point, that you don't comprehend even the basics of climate.

One thing is certain in nature, nothing is stable, least of all climate. Everything evolves in cycles.

 

[Some Dude]

If you don't know if that is realistic, you make my point, that you don't comprehend even the basics of climate.

One thing is certain in nature, nothing is stable, least of all climate. Everything evolves in cycles.

Wow, a breakthrough, I wonder if that is why I defer to climate scientists!

I am very comfortable in saying that I don't know because I don't pretend to know. What would concern me more would be if I couldn't sustain my assertions after the most basic of questions about them.

Doesn't that concern you?

 

[wayneL]

You sir, are an unrealised and unrecognised genius. The quantum point..

The nano-thin facade of reasonableness turns to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit... and a poor form of argument.

Dude, we have gone through all this before; the continuous flight to extreme by refusing to acknowledge valid dissent is getting boring and increasingly untenable....

.... which accounts for the increasing volume and pitch of shrill.

 

[Some Dude]

The nano-thin facade of reasonableness turns to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit... and a poor form of argument.

Dude, we have gone through all this before; the continuous flight to extreme by refusing to acknowledge valid dissent is getting boring and increasingly untenable....

.... which accounts for the increasing volume and pitch of shrill.

Gosh, I'm flattered and thank you for the often attributed Oscar Wilde quote How did that one finish?

 

[wayneL]

Gosh, I'm flattered and thank you for the often attributed Oscar Wilde quote How did that one finish?

Not how you think it finishes.... tsk tsk faulty research yet again.

In fact the phrase "as is" pre-dates Wilde and any of the other illegitimate revisions.

 

[Whiskers]

Wow, a breakthrough, I wonder if that is why I defer to climate scientists!

I am very comfortable in saying that I don't know because I don't pretend to know. What would concern me more would be if I couldn't sustain my assertions after the most basic of questions about them.

Doesn't that concern you?

Some Dude, you seem to be quite articulate, intelligent, knowledgeable and reasonably civil in your conversation... that's good.

But, some of your behavioral concepts include, Catastrophizing, Dependency, Invalidation.

Are you diagnosed with some type of personality disorder or do you just enjoy baiting, selective moments of competence and circular conversations with limited moments of clarity to try to belittle those you strongly dissagree with?

If you want me to continue to engage in conversation with you, behave like the responsible, intelligent and logical person I know you can be... otherwise you go on my ignore list.

 

[Some Dude]

Some Dude, you seem to be quite articulate, intelligent, knowledgeable and reasonably civil in your conversation... that's good.

Thanks, I would likewise compliment you on you conversational attributes.

But, some of your behavioral concepts include, Catastrophizing, Dependency, Invalidation.

Would you elaborate by citing the specific examples so that we could discuss whether we can agree on these attributes?

Are you diagnosed with some type of personality disorder or do you just enjoy baiting, selective moments of competence and circular conversations with limited moments of clarity to try to belittle those you strongly dissagree with?

Yes I have but would you elaborate by citing the specific examples so that we could discuss whether we can agree on them? Context also please i.e. make sure you include the preceding comment in the conversational examples.

If you want me to continue to engage in conversation with you, behave like the responsible, intelligent and logical person I know you can be... otherwise you go on my ignore list.

Ignore me or not as you wish but I hope that you choose to demonstrate every point that you make in your posts with the understanding that your descriptions of the science, topic, people or behaviour do not have to be accepted without analysis or criticism. While I welcome you stating your opinions and making assertions, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you and stating why then you probably shouldn't make the comments.

 

[Some Dude]

Not how you think it finishes.... tsk tsk faulty research yet again.

In fact the phrase "as is" pre-dates Wilde and any of the other illegitimate revisions.

Oh darn, and I was so looking forward to your approval. Indeed the saying is incorrectly attributed to Oscar Wilde, hence "often attributed".

 

[Whiskers]

Are you diagnosed with some type of personality disorder or do you just enjoy baiting, selective moments of competence and circular conversations with limited moments of clarity to try to belittle those you strongly dissagree with?

Yes I have but would you elaborate by citing the specific examples so that we could discuss whether we can agree on them? Context also please i.e. make sure you include the preceding comment in the conversational examples.

So that I can better understand where you are coming from, can you tell me what personality disorder you have been diagnosed with?

Is it a form of Autism like Asperger Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder or an Obsessive compulsive personality disorder (OCPD)?

 

[Some Dude]

So that I can better understand where you are coming from, can you tell me what personality disorder you have been diagnosed with?

No but you can discuss with me privately why you think it is relevant.

Are you able to elaborate by showing examples, citations, research, evidence, etc for any of the questions posed about your assertions or labels in the previous posts? If so, will you?

 

[explod]

So that I can better understand where you are coming from, can you tell me what personality disorder you have been diagnosed with?

Is it a form of Autism like Asperger Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder or an Obsessive compulsive personality disorder (OCPD)?

Way off topic

Just answer the questions with assertions based on facts showing that climate change is not a problem.

We need to smarten up;................. in fact I am thinking of applying for an ASF monitors job.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

While I would agree with many of the bony legged Greens posting on Weather, that it has been an horrid Summer, it would appear in Townsville that we are returning to a normal clime.

The bush turkey chicks are growing, the grass is growing, a gentle rain has fallen for the last three days, much as one expects for early April.

Anzac Day Dawn may be cold, as it often is.

27C high today.
21C expected low tonight.

gg

 

[Whiskers]

No but you can discuss with me privately why you think it is relevant.

Are you able to elaborate by showing examples, citations, research, evidence, etc for any of the questions posed about your assertions or labels in the previous posts? If so, will you?

It is relevant for the reasons I made at post 4446 and wayneL made at 4443.

I recognise you have a genuine dissability which makes it difficult for you to relate in certain ways. I respect you for acknowledging that and hope you keep working to improve your diagnosis.

 

[Some Dude]

It is relevant for the reasons I made at post 4446 and wayneL made at 4443.

I recognise you have a genuine dissability which makes it difficult for you to relate in certain ways. I respect you for acknowledging that and hope you keep working to improve your diagnosis.

So you are unable to elaborate by showing examples, citations, research, evidence, etc for any of the questions posed about your assertions or labels in the previous posts? Including your post #4446?

Would you elaborate by citing the specific examples so that we could discuss whether we can agree on these attributes?

If all you are able to do is post assertions and avoid substantiating them, I think my "issues" will likely be the least of your problems.

 

[Whiskers]

Way off topic

On the contrary explod, a significant part of resisting climate hysteria is understanding where people are coming from and treating them accordingly. If I didn't suspect a personality disorder I probably would have been much harsher.

Just answer the questions with assertions based on facts showing that climate change is not a problem.

We need to smarten up;.................

Indeed we need to smarten up.

I've summarised why the treatment of climate change by our governments is hysterical nonsense in the below text in reply to Basilio. Feel free to try to rationalise their granting of CSG licenses which by definition and well established history creates a lot of uncontrolled methane gas leaks into the air and water reservoirs, without any environmental controls at all.

Basilo, I chose this reply of yours because you mentioned a few key concepts that when related to government hysterical policy and laws on climate change, demonstrate their lack of sincere concern with climate change, but more concern with revenue raising from new taxes and industry.

"Human induced climate change"
One of the main greenhouse gases is methane. The gov has laid plenty of blame on the rural sector for methane contribution from animal herds and are trying their best to use that as a means to tax them more.

Yet at the same time, the state and fed gov's have rushed in Coal Seam Gas (CSG) development under the Coordinator General provisions with initially no environmental controls but eventually modified with mild controls in some areas under public pressure.

There is plenty of current, living proof out there that the fracking process to develop CSG causes considerable methane and other gas to escape into the air and water table. You can go out into those areas and measure detectable increases around many wells, smell it and feel it burning your eyes and skin and even see it bubbling up in the creeks and rivers.

When the hysterical and hypocritical climate change activists and government that not only allowed it, but endorsed it with open arms, do something pretty fast to stop all this extra methane and other undeclared chemicals leaking into the air we breathe and water we consume, then I'll start taking you seriously about climate change.

"And given the consequences that flow from that they should be very concerned."
If this sort of government contradiction keeps up, we'll all be poisoned long before the climate change has any marked effect on us.

"A rational person would understand what is happening and why it is happening."
The gov has bowed to the whims of climate extremists as a populous political election tool and a guise to introduce new tax revenue, create new industry and jobs for political gain... completely disingenuous about real environmental issues.​

 

[explod]

The nano-thin facade of reasonableness turns to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit... and a poor form of argument.

Dude, we have gone through all this before; the continuous flight to extreme by refusing to acknowledge valid dissent is getting boring and increasingly untenable....

.... which accounts for the increasing volume and pitch of shrill.

There is no content in this post which relates to the subject.

On one hand we have the science on the other a thread for discussion.

 

[explod]

Not how you think it finishes.... tsk tsk faulty research yet again.

In fact the phrase "as is" pre-dates Wilde and any of the other illegitimate revisions.

As an experienced poster one would expect words to assist in understanding this difficult subject

 

[Some Dude]

When the hysterical and hypocritical climate change activists and government that not only allowed it, but endorsed it with open arms, do something pretty fast to stop all this extra methane and other undeclared chemicals leaking into the air we breathe and water we consume, then I'll start taking you seriously about climate change.

You're not concerned with whether what you believe and tell others is true or not, regardless of the actions of others?

 

[explod]

While I would agree with many of the bony legged Greens posting on Weather, that it has been an horrid Summer, it would appear in Townsville that we are returning to a normal clime.

The bush turkey chicks are growing, the grass is growing, a gentle rain has fallen for the last three days, much as one expects for early April.

Anzac Day Dawn may be cold, as it often is.

27C high today.
21C expected low tonight.

gg

Dosn't count, Townsville is another planet. Remember visiting when in orbit from shearing at Richmond in my Dastun ute and read in the paper, (1977 it was) that two shearers and a man were badly injured when their car ran off the road near the Charters Towers turn off.

 

[Whiskers]

So you are unable to elaborate by showing examples, citations, research, evidence, etc for any of the questions posed about your assertions or labels in the previous posts? Including your post #4446?



If all you are able to do is post assertions and avoid substantiating them, I think my "issues" will likely be the least of your problems.

With all due respect Some Dude, you substantianted them for me. I recognised some patterns of a personality disorder which you acknowledged you have.

I'm working on how we can better relate to each other and will get back to you.