Maybe just try to remember that the important phrase here is (at least for me). We are not all obliged to see it similarly.Yes, our CO2 contributions are minuscule on a global scale, and when compared with China, India, America, etc - but (at least for me) that's not the point.
Are you actually claiming the carbon tax will not be represented as an increase on electricity bills? Plus the additional GST?And Julia, the electricity prices increases are totally unrelated to the carbon tax. Please avoid spreading misinformation.
...And Julia, the electricity prices increases are totally unrelated to the carbon tax. Please avoid spreading misinformation....
I trust science, not governments who refuse to act on what scientists tell them. As I said above (or meant to say above) if anyone comes up with real science which shows that climate change is not human induced, and/or that increased CO2 levels by man will not affect the climate, I will be ecstatic. Fantastic news, because it means there will not be the dangers to ecosystems and biodiversity that I far are inevitable. Given the lack of such data, I assume the worst - and it baffles me that people conclude otherwise with a complete lack of scientific basis, and based purely on their own conclusions.
Unlike religion or dogma, scientists are always happy (or at least should always be happy) to be impartial and respond to what their data and findings put out. This is in contrast to the biased, oil-funded groups who have tried (and failed) to refute climate science findings. Yes, it hasn't been pinned down accurately - please name a single area of science which, from the outset, has been completely accurate? - and the inaccuracies of weather forecasts are enough to show that this is a particularly difficult area to model accurately. That does not, however, mean that the entire premise is false.
I humbly suggest that your denial of climate science is derived from significantly greater ignorance of the area than the scientists that publish and research this area.
Scientists go 'against the narrative' all the time. There are no repercussions for this, assuming the findings are based on good and accurate research. Science is continually changing, and scientists accept this. There are many more recent examples than Ptolemy (which incidentally was a time when there were many more scientific misconceptions - by today's understanding of science - than merely the centre of the solar system).
No, I can't. I'm not a climate scientist. Even climate scientists can't accurately (and shouldn't try to). Neither can Lord Mockton, who is definitely NOT a climate scientist (what a joke). Why is it that people are willing to listen to Lord Mockton because their opinion is in line with his, and ignore and discredit people who actually know about this area?
And Julia, the electricity prices increases are totally unrelated to the carbon tax. Please avoid spreading misinformation.
Just the facts:
Red: distribution (poles, wires, switching equipment)
Blue: retailers share (includes marketing and various other items)
Green: power generation expense
Yellow: carbon tax
^ A misleading post.
100% of the price increases you have experienced so far have got nothing to do with the carbon tax.
Less than 20% of the price increases you will have experienced by the end of this year are to do with the carbon tax.
Around 80% of the price increases have to do with massive, long-term systematic under-investment in the infrastructure over the past couple of decades.
Most Australians (far more than half) will pay the same or pay less overall because of the substantial July income tax cuts (which have been paid for by the carbon tax, of course).
Any Australian wishing to dodge paying the carbon tax is free to do so. Indeed, you are officially encouraged to dodge the tax. The less harm you do to the planet and the more care you put into your children's future, the less tax you pay! If you don't want to pay the carbon tax, use more renewables and conserve more effectively and don't pay the tax!
...writing to let you know that your electricity prices will increase from 1 July 2012....The increase is largely related to the introduction of the carbon price by the Australian Government on 1 July 2012...".
Best of all, you don't have to pay the tax. If you don't like the carbon tax, simply improve your buying habits and don't pay it! Even very simple changes can significantly reduce your carbon footprint, and save you money. Don't talk, act!
Second, unless your income is something like $100,000+ you just had a large tax cut. For the great majority of Australians, this very significant tax reform means that you can pay the 10% increase in electricity and the 0.9% increase in other items which contribute to the cost of living and still have money left over.
It makes no sense to complain about the carbon tax when you are either better off because of the income tax reforms (most Australians are) or else receiving much more than the average income.
Best of all, you don't have to pay the tax. If you don't like the carbon tax, simply improve your buying habits and don't pay it! Even very simple changes can significantly reduce your carbon footprint, and save you money. Don't talk, act!
Perhaps you could detail how people can do this.
+100.What a load of shyte.
Simply lower your carbon footprint. It is not hard. Switch to high-efficiency lighting. Select low-power, high-quality LED TV sets over high-power, high-cost plasma screens. Face your house to catch the winter sun instead of the street. Have decent-sized eaved to shade the glass in summer. Double glaze. Insulate your roof properly. Close doors. Turn off lights when you leave a room. Turn the AC down a bit. Throw away the patio heater. Heat the room you are in, not the whole house. When you build or buy a new house, pay attention to its energy efficiency. Switch to renewable energy - install a solar hot water service, put solar electricity cells on your roof, heat your house with a wood stove using plantation timber (possibly grown on your own property, if you have the space). There are endless ways to doge tax.
Simply lower your carbon footprint. It is not hard. Switch to high-efficiency lighting. Select low-power, high-quality LED TV sets over high-power, high-cost plasma screens. Face your house to catch the winter sun instead of the street. Have decent-sized eaved to shade the glass in summer. Double glaze. Insulate your roof properly. Close doors. Turn off lights when you leave a room. Turn the AC down a bit. Throw away the patio heater. Heat the room you are in, not the whole house. When you build or buy a new house, pay attention to its energy efficiency. Switch to renewable energy - install a solar hot water service, put solar electricity cells on your roof, heat your house with a wood stove using plantation timber (possibly grown on your own property, if you have the space). There are endless ways to doge tax.
Interesting this has been ignored.Data Manipulation... interested in comments from the catastrophists
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/07/15/ushcn2-cheating-our-socks-off/
You seem to assume people are not already doing all the above. We are not idiots. Of course electricity is already being used very conservatively. It is impossible, however, especially for renters, to have total control.
If you are renting, then you are typically on a low to middle income, and you are now substantially better off because of the recent income tax cuts.
Time's up. No response. The process of law now kicks in. Notices of Default will be sent to each respondent. This matter is res judicata and stare decisis and the Respondent's are in estoppel by Respondent’s failure to respond.
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